Enlightened Equipment Quilts

[Strider]

Weather strips are heavier/more water resistant strips of fabric at the head and foot ends.

Pad straps are for attaching your quilt to your sleeping mat.

[Mickl]

Hi weeds. Looks like I type to slow strider beat me to it while I was typing

The strips are what you can add to the top and bottom of the quilt as they are the areas most likely to get damp from brushing on tent walls and breathing in the bag if pulled up around your head. Its just a slightly heavier, more water resistant fabric that's all. I ended up getting them on my quilt and to be honest if I was ordering another one I would get it but I would also get the 20d inside material as well as I have had a bit of down leakage on the inside with the 10D fabric. May not be an issue but enough to be slightly concerning. For info I have black outer 10D with 20D black strips and grey 10D inner fabric. Great product though, you will love it.

[weeds]

Just one final question......never having a quilt or seen one prior, there is a zip that runs the full length? The website mentions the foot box but doesn't really mention full length.

I still don't get the straps....hopefully it will be clear when they arrive.....will be buying two revelations.....free shipping I believe.

Mick, I don't see an option for 20D inside....there is a selection for 20 for the outer.

[Strider]

A quilt is not a sleeping bag and the lack of a zip is generally what differs the two. EE do offer a full length zip though. The straps are for attaching the quilt to your sleeping mat so that you have an enclosed unit. They are explained well here:

http://www.enlightenedequipment.com/blo ... ad-straps/

[weeds]

A quilt is not a sleeping bag and the lack of a zip is generally what differs the two. EE do offer a full length zip though. The straps are for attaching the quilt to your sleeping mat so that you have an enclosed unit. They are explained well here:

http://www.enlightenedequipment.com/blo ... ad-straps/

Yep got it all now......by the looks of the pics the quilt doesn't come under the body??

[Strider]

Correct

[Strider]

Not my photo

[simonm]

Weeds - here is an article on quilts - https://thehikingdad.wordpress.com/ultralight-backpacking-my-vision/ul-gear-quilts-compared/

[weeds]

Great link some and thanks for the pic strider.....totally understanding the concept now.

OK so the mat need to be rated the same as the quilt and maybe a liner or cover of some sort for the mat.....otherwise I will have to start sleeping in clothes.

Umm something to chew on overs lunch today. I need to decide sooner rather than later as I need to sort kit out for a family of five......test it, do some over nighter all before a four day hike in Sep and 6+ in tassie in Jan/Feb.

Thanks again for the replies.....like all forums they are a fear resource especially when time is running out.

[Strider]

Mat should be rated a lot lower than quilt, as most cold come up from below.

I had the wife modify a silk sleeping bag liner into a fitted cover for my downmat

[perfectlydark]

Just like sleeping with an open sleeping bag versus being inside it closed, very little differece in iinsulation. And padding underneath you has no loft so doesnt really do much for you, quilts simply cut that unneeded but off
Plus, lots more comfortable to sleep in IMO

[weeds]

We have decided to skip the quilt idea and go for a conventional sleeping bag.......

Thanks for answering the many questions.

Cheers

[Joomy]

Mat should be rated a lot lower than quilt, as most cold come up from below.

Then again you have Forrest McCarthy using only a standard NeoAir (not Xtherm, R-value around 3 to 4) with maybe a space blanket underneath in -20C to -30C temps in Alaska and Mongolia.

[Strider]

Mat should be rated a lot lower than quilt, as most cold come up from below.

Then again you have Forrest McCarthy using only a standard NeoAir (not Xtherm, R-value around 3 to 4) with maybe a space blanket underneath in -20C to -30C temps in Alaska and Mongolia.

Neoair Trekker is R3. I got cold trialling an original Neoair (R2.5) on my kitchen tiles!

[J M]

Not sure if I'm missing something obvious here, but how do the temp ratings for the quilts correspond to the EN rating system?
Eg. is the temperature rating at the comfort level of the EN system?

[Strider]

Not sure if I'm missing something obvious here, but how do the temp ratings for the quilts correspond to the EN rating system?
Eg. is the temperature rating at the comfort level of the EN system?

EE quilts are not EN rated but, if anything, are closer to Limit than Comfort.

[DanShell]

Not sure if I'm missing something obvious here, but how do the temp ratings for the quilts correspond to the EN rating system?
Eg. is the temperature rating at the comfort level of the EN system?

EE quilts are not EN rated but, if anything, are closer to Limit than Comfort.

Yep in my experience definitely closer to limit!

[J M]

I'll be using it up in the snow, so do you think the 10f would be alright, or would I be safer to get the 0f? I do sleep a little cold, but not much.

[Strider]

I'll be using it up in the snow, so do you think the 10f would be alright, or would I be safer to get the 0f? I do sleep a little cold, but not much.

I have the 20F and have been cold at around freezing. I would get the 0F if I were you. The beauty of a quilt is that you can always poke a leg out!

[DanShell]

I'll be using it up in the snow, so do you think the 10f would be alright, or would I be safer to get the 0f? I do sleep a little cold, but not much.

I have the 20F and have been cold at around freezing. I would get the 0F if I were you. The beauty of a quilt is that you can always poke a leg out!

At the risk of repeating everything strider is saying I again agree 100%

Strider and I both have the same quilt and we both probably should have got the 10f if not zero!

[J M]

Thanks for the advice Strider and DanShell...now to decide on size/fabric/colours

[DanShell]

Thanks for the advice Strider and DanShell...now to decide on size/fabric/colours

I was happy with my decision to get a wide. I use the extra width to enclose myself.

I am 6' and the normal length is fine for me.

[J M]

I'm about 6'1" but with a slim-ish build, so I was thinking of getting the long length + regular width. How has everyone's experience been with the water resistance of the 10D outer fabric? Is it worth getting the 20D?

[photohiker]

That's about my build (72kg) and the size I ordered, fits well, plenty of length and width is fine.

I haven't had much moisture on it, but I ordered it with the Optional Weather Resistant Stripes (Rev Pro). Handy for your moist breath and also if you touch the walls of your shelter with the foot end.

[Joomy]

I'm about 6'1" but with a slim-ish build, so I was thinking of getting the long length + regular width. How has everyone's experience been with the water resistance of the 10D outer fabric? Is it worth getting the 20D?

Just put your rain jacket zipped up over your foot if you have wetness there. I have a Long/Wide Revelation and it is a good length and very wide on me (which I like). I can basically wrap myself up in it completely. I am 6'4 and slim. I would suggest you could get away with a regular length and width. EE actually shipped me a reg/reg Revelation by mistake and it was almost big enough.

[J M]

Well I've had the chance to use my quilt a few times now, generally in temperatures between -5 and 0.

Has anyone had an issue with condensation on the outside of the quilt? I've never noticed it with other bags I've had but each morning I woke up with quite a lot of water on the quilt. Any ideas?

For reference, I have a 0F Revelation and I was sleeping in a TT Scarp 2. Thanks!

[DanShell]

Well I've had the chance to use my quilt a few times now, generally in temperatures between -5 and 0.

Has anyone had an issue with condensation on the outside of the quilt? I've never noticed it with other bags I've had but each morning I woke up with quite a lot of water on the quilt. Any ideas?

For reference, I have a 0F Revelation and I was sleeping in a TT Scarp 2. Thanks!

Only where I've been breathing on it overnight. Im guessing you were toasty warm under your zero F in minus 5c conditions?

[J M]

Im guessing you were toasty warm under your zero F in minus 5c conditions?

Toasty warm is an understatement! Very happy with the quilt overall.

I'm just slightly worried that over longer, wetter trips the moisture would be a problem.

[bertu123]

Does anyone have any experience with Enlightened's Accomplice bag? My girlfriend and I are both looking for a good lightweight bag, and this looks like it could be an ideal solution - lighter and cheaper than two separate bags

[Scottyk]

Well I've had the chance to use my quilt a few times now, generally in temperatures between -5 and 0.

Has anyone had an issue with condensation on the outside of the quilt? I've never noticed it with other bags I've had but each morning I woke up with quite a lot of water on the quilt. Any ideas?

For reference, I have a 0F Revelation and I was sleeping in a TT Scarp 2. Thanks!

The problem comes from the combination of 2 things
1 - the amount of moisture leaving your body due to perspiration
2 - the air dew point on any particular night

The solution is to try not to camp in very we areas which most of the time isn't really possible. Next to rivers and in depressions are not good but it can get bad anywhere if the conditions are right.
The other thing you can do is not wear we clothes to bed as they will dry and let the moisture out over night. Think sweaty socks etc.
If your really toasty warm then you will perspire more and increase the problem, you want to comfortable but not hot.

My personal solution is to use a synthetic quilt. Just means that even over long trips the moisture never becomes a problem. You pay a small weight penalty but it's well worth it in my opinion.