4 season tent choice for one

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4 season tent choice for one

Postby Kingsleythelost » Sat 26 Nov, 2016 5:15 pm

Hi All another tent thread

Im after some tent advice. Ive been looking for a new tent my spec's are as follows

Musts
Im 195Cm tall so something of good size
Double walled and bomb proof
Around 1.5 (maybe less Kg)
Capable of snow (light)
Good in heavy winds and rain

Maybes
Hopefully integrated pitch
No ground sheet
I only need 1 vestibule but 2 could be good
Quick pitch
Self supporting
Its nice on warmer evenings to be able to open the tent right up.

No budget constraints

So far i'm considering
OP Goondie 1 .. I like the build but not keen on the inner then outer pitch. A little heavy
Hillberg Atko ... Not liking how the head and feet is not supported i dont think id like sleeping with a tent only 30cm from my face. Also self supporting would be better

Any other options you think i should be looking at? Looking for a quality tent.

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Re: 4 season tent choice for one

Postby Strider » Sat 26 Nov, 2016 8:40 pm

Hilleberg Soulo

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Re: 4 season tent choice for one

Postby andrewa » Sat 26 Nov, 2016 8:52 pm

Hilleberg Soulo looks more appropriate if expecting a full winter dump. H'berg Akto looks fine for less than a dump.

I've just bought a Terra Nova Laser Photon Elite second hand for the marginal winter ski touring weekends when I'm by myself, and might or might not get snowed on.

For the times when the weather is going to be really horrible, and I'm by myself, I'd either plan another weekend, or use my H'berg Nallo GT, but would probably just not go.

For a longer trip, when the weather might turn nasty, I'd use the Nallo GT - we all need different tents for different situations, and, given that we have such good weather forecasts see days, we can then choose which tent to use for whatever trip. Harder on longer trip - in which case, you need to plan for the worst.

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Re: 4 season tent choice for one

Postby north-north-west » Sun 27 Nov, 2016 7:00 am

Soulo's heavier than you want but you won't find a better tent, plus it's pretty easy to pitch.
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Re: 4 season tent choice for one

Postby Franco » Sun 27 Nov, 2016 8:10 am

The OP is 195 cm tall.
Some at that height find it hard to be inside the Akto, the Soulo is smaller. (less headroom laying down on top of a mat)
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Re: 4 season tent choice for one

Postby Moondog55 » Sun 27 Nov, 2016 8:37 am

You would fit inside my Macpac Minaret but at an angle
Winter above the snowline? I really think that 1500g is pushing the snowfall limits at a length suitable for you but perhaps the new WE Second Arrow UL
Ve are too soon old und too late schmart
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Re: 4 season tent choice for one

Postby wayno » Sun 27 Nov, 2016 8:42 am

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Re: 4 season tent choice for one

Postby johnk1 » Sun 27 Nov, 2016 9:59 am

I agree with the Hilleberg Soulo.

I don't have one (wish I did) but I have seen a few in action and they are very good.
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Re: 4 season tent choice for one

Postby RonK » Sun 27 Nov, 2016 10:15 am

I have owned a Hilleberg Soulo and can vouch that it is an excellent tent.

A 197cm x 65 cm Synmat 7 LW fits inside, but I'm not 195cm, and I doubt anyone that tall could use one without their sleeping bag coming into contact with the walls.

A four-season tent big enough for someone 195cm and weighing 1.5kg won't be easy to find.
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Re: 4 season tent choice for one

Postby north-north-west » Sun 27 Nov, 2016 10:28 am

Helsport Ringstind?

Just under 1kg, inner is 235cm long. It's a similar design to the Akto but about half the weight. *&%$#! expensive, but Helsport are a very good brand. Being Scandinavian their tents are designed and built for fairly robust conditions.
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Re: 4 season tent choice for one

Postby Franco » Sun 27 Nov, 2016 1:33 pm

I would suggest watching this video on the Ringstind :

then compare it with the TT Scarp 1

(from a happy customer...)
compare the pitch,structure and usable space.
Keep in mind that I am with TT.
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Re: 4 season tent choice for one

Postby johnrs » Mon 28 Nov, 2016 12:02 pm

Hi KTL
Here is another vote for the Goondie1, stable, local and long for a tall guy.
It might be due for a design upgrade soon.
I do have a Ringstind which I use in Tasmania but would rate it 3&1/2 seasons,
expensive and beautifully made tents and the LOOONGEST as befits its Norwegian origin,
very roomy but not as bombproof as a Goondie or Scarp 1.
And the Scarp is a very well tested and robust design but its 218 cm long so at 195 cm this might be a little short for you??

All great tents, it comes down to intended use, budget and personal preferences.
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Re: 4 season tent choice for one

Postby Franco » Mon 28 Nov, 2016 3:03 pm

The Scarp is indeed 218cm long but most if not all is usable even by someone with long feet.


The Goondie is 230cm long but how much do you lose at each end ?
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as for the extra long rigstindt, I could be wrong but it does not look all that extra long to me :

please note that I am talking about usable space not floor length.
By usable space I mean the length you have where there is a minimum of 30cm or so between the floor and the inner, you cant fit a mat/person and sleeping bag under much less than that.
To add : my comments are just about size not quality. For example I fit in really nicely inside the Soulo and happen to like that design (3 poles fully freestanding) a lot but I am 172cm tall, I would not reccomend it to someone over 190cm.
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Re: 4 season tent choice for one

Postby Chezza » Mon 28 Nov, 2016 8:41 pm

Your desired weight is very low for a free-standing and robust tent.

Assuming weight is of primary importance if you want something free-standing, the Big Sky Chinook or Revolution are around that weight. If you can get used to the idea of a tunnel configuration, definitely go with the Scarp.
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Re: 4 season tent choice for one

Postby Neo » Mon 28 Nov, 2016 10:58 pm

As Franco points out, vertical ends make a huge difference to the useable length. Standard tent dimensions seem to be around 210 or 230 cm, so the shorter can actually be better.
Flat edged designs are quickly eliminated from my wishlists!
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Re: 4 season tent choice for one

Postby DaveNoble » Tue 29 Nov, 2016 8:28 am

I don't think there are any tents that tick all your boxes. Buying a tent is always a compromise. If you want to increase robustness and weatherproofness then you tend to increase weight. Roomy tents are not always the lightest or best in storms. Integral pitch is better for putting up a tent in bad weather, but it is nice on a fine morning to detach the outer tent to let any condensation dry. Tents that stand up well to wind are not always the best for ventilation and can be prone to a lot of condensation. Tents that shed snow well are not always the best in strong winds. Even the colour of a tent can be important - I had a tent once with a dark blue outer - and it was very hard to read inside the tent on stormbound days.

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Re: 4 season tent choice for one

Postby shoarthing » Mon 12 Dec, 2016 7:35 am

Kingsleythelost wrote:Hi All another tent thread

Im after some tent advice. Ive been looking for a new tent my spec's are as follows

Musts
Im 195Cm tall so something of good size
Double walled and bomb proof
Around 1.5 (maybe less Kg)
Capable of snow (light)
Good in heavy winds and rain

Maybes
Hopefully integrated pitch
No ground sheet
I only need 1 vestibule but 2 could be good
Quick pitch
Self supporting
Its nice on warmer evenings to be able to open the tent right up.

No budget constraints

So far i'm considering
OP Goondie 1 .. I like the build but not keen on the inner then outer pitch. A little heavy
Hillberg Atko ... Not liking how the head and feet is not supported i dont think id like sleeping with a tent only 30cm from my face. Also self supporting would be better

Any other options you think i should be looking at? Looking for a quality tent.

Cheers
Hi - I'm the same height, with the same sort of list. Have tried a lot of tents and found the Soulo too small, and simply didn't fancy the Akto or Scarp - too flappy for me when the wind swirled.

Suggest you try to find a s/h Wilderness Equipment Dart "1.5" - a bit heavy & inner pitch first; but self-supporting & superbly designed & made from tough materials for Oz conditions. You are unlikely to find it to be too short.

http://wildernessequipment.com.au/detail.php?Code=WEDART

I now use a WE Dart 2UL any time foul weather is likely - better than my bran' new Hilleberg Allak for length (I don't touch the inner on a Downmat & under a 3-season quilt); much quieter in a real blow. Sadly it is getting old (had a hard life before I found it). Fabulous tent and a credit to Wilderness Equipment.
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