Mark F wrote:If you are planning to keep your carried weight down but not going to the extremes then I would think something like 65 litres for you and 50 for your wife. Bigger packs just encourage more weight needing too be carried. I am into lightweight and carry a 45 litre pack and my partner uses a 32 litre which has proved adequate for trips like the Overland Track but we are in our late 60's and light weight is what keeps us walking.
Far better to use a waterproof pack liner than a rain cover.
crollsurf wrote:Osprey Exos 58 isn't a whole lot smaller but about half the weight. Not sure if you can stuff everything into that.
RonK wrote:Pack size is not the only consideration. Your gear has to fit into the pack, so the smaller it is, the more compact and invariably more expensive your gear will have to be.
ChrisJHC wrote:I personally use the Osprey Aether 70 as that will cater for the odd occasion when I need to carry extra gear (ie for my kids). Note that just because you have a larger pack doesn't mean you have to fill it!
ChrisJHC wrote:I personally use the Osprey Aether 70 as that will cater for the odd occasion when I need to carry extra gear (ie for my kids). Note that just because you have a larger pack doesn't mean you have to fill it!
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Mark F wrote:If you are planning to keep your carried weight down but not going to the extremes then I would think something like 65 litres for you and 50 for your wife. Bigger packs just encourage much more weight and many unnecessary items being carried.
MrCamper wrote:Current gear to fill so far to give a fair idea:
Tent: Marmot Tunsten 2p
2 x Thermarest lite plus. Not sure if i overkilled it with the plus. Still on order.
2 x z-seats.
Optimus cook set
2 x 0c Batwolf sleeping bags
2 x Set of Thermals
2.5ltr bladder for each pack.
2 x rain jackets (packable).
Packable down vests (depending on when we do it).
neilmny wrote:Hi Mr camper, are these Batwolf or Blackwolf sleeping bags?
If Blackwolf the rating can generally be "misinterpreted" as it is not related to the EN13537 standard.
We had -8C Blackwolf bags and they were cold at +2C.
Stew63 wrote:Mark F wrote:If you are planning to keep your carried weight down but not going to the extremes then I would think something like 65 litres for you and 50 for your wife. Bigger packs just encourage much more weight and many unnecessary items being carried.
^^^This^^^
Went hiking in the High Country for a few days with my 14yr old daughter last month. She has a 50litre pack and I have a 55litre pack - both packs were only about 70% full. We carried a tent each and each pack weighed no more than about 5 or 6kgs total - excluding water. When we stopped by at a hut there was a family of 4 there on an overnight hike. Apart from their 11yr old son they were all carrying massive 85litre Osprey packs (looked full) and each pack weighing in the vicinity of 25kgs!
In 2017 with the range of modern materials and composites around smaller, lighter, faster is the only way to go without skimping on safety - but of course there is a cost factor.
neilmny wrote:MrCamper wrote:Current gear to fill so far to give a fair idea:
Tent: Marmot Tunsten 2p
2 x Thermarest lite plus. Not sure if i overkilled it with the plus. Still on order.
2 x z-seats.
Optimus cook set
2 x 0c Batwolf sleeping bags
2 x Set of Thermals
2.5ltr bladder for each pack.
2 x rain jackets (packable).
Packable down vests (depending on when we do it).
Hi Mr camper, are these Batwolf or Blackwolf sleeping bags?
If Blackwolf the rating can generally be "misinterpreted" as it is not related to the EN13537 standard.
We had -8C Blackwolf bags and they were cold at +2C.
Do some research on bag ratings based on Comfort, Limit and Extreme.
Look for - The EN13537 standard which is generally trusted as a fair comparison.
In actual usage different people get different impressions of warmth. ie. Warm sleepers, cold sleepers, male, female etc.
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