Tarptent Instruction Manual wrote:The Scarp 1 is strong but not intended for areas with extreme snowfall, especially heavy, wet snowfall which readily sticks to the canopy instead of sloughing off. The angle of the flat part of the canopy is relatively shallow and you will want to reach up and punch the underside of the interior, as often as necessary, to prevent snow from accumulating on the canopy.
warnabrother wrote:hat is the budget and are you ok with single skin tents..
If no budget and ok with single skins, look at some of the Zpacks DCF models.. very light and strong enough..
The new Notch LI from Tarptent also looks amazing..
north-north-west wrote:Scarp is great for Tassie, but make sure you get it with the crossing poles and get or make a Tyvek groundsheet.
north-north-west wrote:There's a small mesh panel in each door. Reduces temp a bit, but also helps with ventilation.
Orion wrote:The "solid" inner has four mesh panels, one on each door and one on each wall next to the doors. Too much ventilation for winter, not enough for summer.
Orion wrote:The fly does not reach the ground and the top is flattish, so not the best choice if there will be significant snow fall (unless you add the crossing poles). When I saw it in person I realized I wasn't going to be able to easily make it into a winter tent.
Orion wrote: And the inner drapes pretty low. I found that unless I was lying down it was nearly always touching my head (I'm 182cm). Ironically, when it rained the inner and outer roof on my Scarp 1 were usually stuck together.
Orion wrote:I think it's kind of a funky tent with a lot of weird design issues. I plan to sell mine at a low price.
The only other tent I looked at was the Akto.
Orion wrote:One way to open up other possibilities is to relax your requirement for integral pitching. As long as the tent sets up fast it's not that critical. Even with integral pitched tents there's often some mopping up to do when it's raining a lot.
Brekel wrote:Your other suggestions look good too, but I believe with most of those the inner goes up first? With some of the conditions I've been in, either fly first or integral is something that I think has it's advantages. I've never put up tents with the hub-style poles - how easy and quick are they in comparison?
Franco wrote:There are plenty of photos and reports of the Scarp used in and under snow.
One could start by looking at the TT Gallery and then read the comments there.
http://www.tarptent.com/gallery.html
Just to address another point, you can very easily increase the cooking space by undoing one or two clips of the inner and peg the floor back.
Something like this...
I have the Moment DW. Used it on the PCT and a few times in Tassle.Franco wrote:For the same money I could have had a tent that performed as well or better and weighed 1/3 less.
Why not suggest that tent then ?
BTW, the Akto is about the same weight as the Scarp 1 with the external poles.
You don't need those poles if not winter camping.
With the poles users of both reported a better performance from the Scarp.
For example :
http://www.christownsendoutdoors.com/20 ... inter.html
warnabrother wrote:I can easily pitch my Hubba Hubba NX fly first.. you can do the same with the Hubba NX...
Franco wrote:BTW, the Akto is about the same weight as the Scarp 1 with the external poles.
Franco wrote:...you can very easily increase the cooking space by undoing one or two clips of the inner and peg the floor back.
Franco wrote:For the same money I could have had a tent that performed as well or better and weighed 1/3 less.
Why not suggest that tent then ?
crollsurf wrote:The TT tent I'll probably get next will be the Bowfin 1. No trekking pole and close to self standing (just 2 pegs).
Moondog55 wrote:Playing the devils advocate here...
So which is the priority here; bombproof winter Alpine or lightweight and every other season?
johnrs wrote:And do have a look at the Goondie 1 or the Wilderness Equipment Space series
John
Brekel wrote:I checked out a Space 1 at a local store.Just long enough, steep rise at the head end anda nice height so it doesn't feel claustrophobic at all, and plenty of width.
Pretty much the same price locally for the solid inner version as what the Scarp1 would be with freight once the dollar is converted.
It is outer first though, unless using footprint. But maybe worth considering.
Anyone have any experience with these?
What are the poles/hubs like to use and how do the hubs stand up to use?
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