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Re: X Mid - Dan Durston

Postby north-north-west » Wed 06 Nov, 2019 5:32 pm

Seriously wondering how hard it would be to use a bit of material from an old inner to solidify the top and sides of a 2p version.

But I don't need another tent!!!
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Re: X Mid - Dan Durston

Postby Tortoise » Wed 06 Nov, 2019 5:43 pm

north-north-west wrote:Seriously wondering how hard it would be to use a bit of material from an old inner to solidify the top and sides of a 2p version.

But I don't need another tent!!!

I confess I've wondered the same thing! And I don't need another tent either!!! But....
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Re: X Mid - Dan Durston

Postby Lamont » Wed 06 Nov, 2019 6:06 pm

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Re: X Mid - Dan Durston

Postby Xastorm » Thu 07 Nov, 2019 8:29 pm

Tents are like sleeping bags, you always need another one :D

As per email; We expect your order to ship by Tue Nov 12 2019.
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Re: X Mid - Dan Durston

Postby Warin » Thu 07 Nov, 2019 10:14 pm

Xastorm wrote:Tents are like sleeping bags, you always need another one :D

As per email; We expect your order to ship by Tue Nov 12 2019.


Less problems selling on a tent.. as you can see all of it. Second hand sleeping bags are harder to assess.

So .. add, say, 2 weeks for delivery and that would be Tuesday 26th November.. Should be here before Xmass.

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Adaptations? Make a new inner for the 1 p tent .. to make a 2 p inner... you loose the vestibule on one side. But you now have a very light weight 2 p tent.
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Re: X Mid - Dan Durston

Postby Drew » Fri 08 Nov, 2019 3:08 pm

As per email; We expect your order to ship by Tue Nov 12 2019.


Already shipped, 5 days ahead of schedule! I wonder if, by some miracle, it might appear before my walk next weekend... Probably not.
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Re: X Mid - Dan Durston

Postby slparker » Fri 08 Nov, 2019 8:03 pm

Don’t be surprised, I bought a watch of mass drop and it arrived within a few days.
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Re: X Mid - Dan Durston

Postby dandurston » Wed 13 Nov, 2019 2:58 am

A few updates:

1) I finished a pitching video for the X-Mid. See that here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVboRcwY6P0

2) For the solid inner and possible DCF version, I'd love to do these variants but it comes down to willingness by Drop since they are the ones actually funding the R&D and producing the tents. Right now those versions seem to be on hold (not cancelled) as Drop is evaluating their priorities. I don't think the delay has anything to do with the X-Mid specifically, but just that they are growing company with a lot of competing objectives and these aren't high enough up their priority list right now. I hope that I can convince them to finish development on these, but as of right now I'm not sure how it'll play out. I'll keep asking them about it.

3) Getting the fly as low as possible ("limpet mode") is largely the result of staking the corners of the fly as low as possible. For a low fly you want to adjust the corner cords as short as possible before staking it out, or if you're really keen for a low pitch you can stake it through the grosgrain/webbing behind the LineLoc. Regardless of how long or short you have these cords adjusted, you want to follow the two keys highlighted in my video of staking a rectangle that is (1) accurate and (2) tight. A tight rectangle will allow the fly to limit the poles to the correct height, whereas a loose rectangle will let them overextend which distorts the shape too tall and results in loose sides. You can also measure the poles instead of letting the fly limit them (117 cm normally unless ground is uneven or the tent is very high/low). If you do have fixed length poles that might somewhat limit your ability to pitch the fly extra high or low (e.g. if you pitch is high but your poles are too short for that, it'll be loose).

4) The X-Mid is available as an in stock item now at Drop. I'm not sure of their exact stock situation, but I think they have a moderately sized batch so it should be in stock for a few months until that sells out (perhaps 3 months). Once it sells out there will likely be another long wait for more because as far as I am aware they haven't placed the next order yet, and the lead times on that are 6-8 months (of course they could have without telling me).
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Re: X Mid - Dan Durston

Postby Drew » Thu 14 Nov, 2019 8:16 am

slparker wrote:Don’t be surprised, I bought a watch of mass drop and it arrived within a few days.


I was getting pretty confident that it would arrive for the weekend after the tracking told me it left for the destination country 4 days ago. But no news since! Must have taken a boat instead of a plane...
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Re: X Mid - Dan Durston

Postby Warin » Sat 16 Nov, 2019 9:08 am

It took a plane. Probably to Sydney? Tracking seems to stop once left USA.

As delivered weight 906 grams. Includes pegs eight by 8 grams, inner, fly, stuff sacks, guy lines, etc.

Immediate reductions?
Zip lock bag (for pegs) 4 g, manufacturing tags and instruction tag 0.6 g.
Possible further reductions?;
'pole' guy lines two by 6 g (reduce by using spectra cord for most of the length)
zipper pull cords eight by 0.4 g (reduce by half - lengths can be shorter)
Possibly more as I come to them.

Comparison? Intentoutdoors one man, one pole tent with inner is ~821 grams, it is as smaller tent but uses heavier pegs, not as storm worthy and costs less. For smaller spaces and good weather (not Tasmania or the snowys) the intentoutdoors may be a better pick. https://www.intentsoutdoors.co.nz/colle ... -wall-890g
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Re: X Mid - Dan Durston

Postby Drew » Tue 19 Nov, 2019 3:27 pm

Drew wrote:
slparker wrote:Don’t be surprised, I bought a watch of mass drop and it arrived within a few days.


I was getting pretty confident that it would arrive for the weekend after the tracking told me it left for the destination country 4 days ago. But no news since! Must have taken a boat instead of a plane...


Finally arrived. It wasn't slow really but it would have been nice to have it for the weekend. Anyway, just had a quick pitch and it seems great. Very easy pitch (certainly easier than the Stratospire 2 that I own).
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Re: X Mid - Dan Durston

Postby Xastorm » Wed 20 Nov, 2019 12:00 pm

Mine arrived today but I’m overseas for a few weeks and won’t have a chance to try it for another month! :cry:
I live in apartmentville so no chance to set it up unless I head to the local park :lol:
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Re: X Mid - Dan Durston

Postby onward » Wed 20 Nov, 2019 4:32 pm

Mine arrived yesterday and I'm not overseas so I put it up in the front yard. Fast and easy to erect, less than 3 minutes for a first time. Would agree easier the the Stratospheres and own the 1 & 2. Well made, the si-poly is a funny feel material. Will swap out the Ti skewer pegs in favour or something more robust. It does feel strange to lay in the inner which sits at an angle to the outside! All in all looks and feels like a promising tent. Two weeks in the alps starting 1 Dec we will see how it goes, but will be at least as good as the Stratospheres (and lighter) I suspect and more room than my Locus Gear Khufu. Oh and I Like than it packs sideways into my pack!
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Re: X Mid - Dan Durston

Postby Mark F » Fri 29 Nov, 2019 8:47 am

For anybody wavering Drop have the 1 person X-mid on special for Black Friday.
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Re: X Mid - Dan Durston

Postby Joynz » Fri 29 Nov, 2019 6:19 pm

Just US $180!

I paid US $200 a couple of weeks ago (equal to Aus $300). So US $180 is a bargain.

It’s a nice tent. Haven’t camped with it yet, but really easy to pitch. And it works with Pacer poles.
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Re: X Mid - Dan Durston

Postby Flipper Hands » Fri 29 Nov, 2019 6:47 pm

I ordered one a little while ago @200 as well. It's a lot of tent for 180!
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Re: X Mid - Dan Durston

Postby Drew » Mon 09 Dec, 2019 8:50 am

Just wondering if anyone who's given their X-mid a bit of use has had any issues with the 2mm guy rope cord slipping? When I got my Stratospire I swapped the guy ropes to 3mm cord as I read in numerous places that the supplied 2mm could slip under strain. (People said the same about the strut tensioners and I didn't swap those. I haven't had problems with those slipping.)

I haven't used the X-mid yet but am wondering if the same applies to this tent?
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Re: X Mid - Dan Durston

Postby Lamont » Mon 09 Dec, 2019 12:17 pm

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