wildwanderer wrote:Hi Emma, looks like your gear list is really coming together!
A few comments.
plb and snake bandage: YES bring!
110 grams of Gas: Your going to be pushing it to get 6 days worth out of 110grams.. Depends if you have tea/coffee/ soup as well as heat a meal a day. But personally I would bring a 220g cylindar. When you see everyone having ther hot chocolates/tea/coffee each night/morning your going to get very jealous.
umbrella.. You have a hat/sunscreen and there are trees. Easy 200 grams saving.
make sure you can fit your fleece etc in your pack as well. your unlikely to want to wear it while walking. Even at 10 degrees most people wear just a long sleeve shirt if no wind.
make sure you include cold and flu/ diarrhea meds.
- up to you but you can use your boots to dig a toilet hole instead of the trowel
- did i miss dishwashing liquid? As dont have enough gas to use hot water.
why do you need a food pouch when you already have the critter bag?
With 1 L water and your unweighed extras your going to be at about 13-13.5kg. Which is fine but is your 800 gram pack comfortable with 13+ kg in it?
@wildwanderer Thank you so much for your comments. I welcome and love experienced eyes over my gearlist, offering options and suggestions and alternatives.
Regards gas, you could well be right.
Cooking-wise, I was planning on just bringing water to boil in my 650 ml titanium pot, but not using it for actually cooking as I'm doing freezer bag cooking (eg I'm doing couscous / angel hair in freezer bag meals with infused olive oil and addition of herbs / tuna / parmesan etc, and the freezer bag goes inside my Big Sky International insulated pouch). I'm doing cold lunches. Breakfast I was planning to do one boil for a coffee and porridge. (My pot is 650 ml, and I've tested doing both from one boil - and yes can do.) Dinner as mentioned bringing water to boil.
Day 1 - brekkie is in my hotel. So I only need 1 boil (dinner).
Day 2 - Boil in morning & boil in evening. So 2 boils.
Day 3. Same. 2 boils.
Day 4. Same 2 boils.
Day 5. Same 2 boils.
Day 6. Brekkie only. 1 boil.
Total: 10 boils of around 550 ml water quantity in Toaks 650 ml titanium UL pot.
Does that aid the gas consumption estimate?
The large 10 Litre critter bag does something entirely different, which is to act like a "bear bag" essentially, but for critters rather than bears. Whereas the Big Sky International insulated bag is a small-sized insulated pouch for freezer bag cooking.
(I realize on my gear list the images have no scale, so I can completely see how that could be super-confusing.)
Umbrella - yes I could remove it. I have had melanoma cut out, with 2 surgeries, second at specialized melanoma clinic at Alfred Hospital, and the threat that if it returns I will most likely die. The melanoma was I later found out from a scar where a flying plate hit the back of my arm raised over my head to shield my face and head, and the scar tissue is both more sensitive to UV and also new tissue more prone to mutation due to copy-error.
Also on umbrella, it was interestingly the number #1 regret of not bringing, from several hikers that I follow, who are both ultralighters and left it behind to save weight. It does sun protection and showers (in conditions of not too much wind). And great for cover while you stop to eat lunch on trail. But yes you're right I could leave it and save the 209 grams weight.
I will consider option to ditch umbrella, and weigh it up.
The trowel is only 17 grams, and I think it's easier to get sufficient depth and be practising good "no trace" principles, and setting a good example for others also in that regard. I could use boot, stick or tent peg, but I think the 17 grams is worth it.
I don't think I need detergent, as I'm doing freezer bag cooking, and I can wash the freezer bags out with water, and pack them out in my rubbish bag, kept within my Lopsak Opsak to prevent smells and within Minor Critter bag to keep out wildlife.
Good advice re fleece. I can't tell until I load up a simulated food bag with food. Though due to all the side compartments and mesh pockets on my pack, I *think* I'll be ok, because:
- the tent fits in the front mesh pocket on outside of pack. The Thermarest mat I can also fit either in side pocket or folded in back panel area. My much-desired Zero chair fits in side mesh pocket.
- my down quilt compresses into an 8 Litre Zpacks bag at bottom of my pack. My clothes fit in an 8L with room left over. And the food bag is 10 Litres which is *meant* to be enough for my 700 grams a day x 5.5 days. Exped med bag with my meds, bandage, toiletries, safety, compass, map - doesn't take up very much room.
- my headlamp fits in hip belt pocket, etc. I can clip PLB onto shoulder strap, etc.
I am just awaiting a few items arriving by post, and then I will test out with food bag full up with actual freezer bags full of measured couscous, olive oil bottle, mountain bread, tuna sachets, snacks etc at 700 grams a day.
I agree with your analysis on weight. I need to try and get my base weight at around 7 kg. Plus food 4 kg. Plus 1 L / 1 kg water, would be 12 kg. My pack is here:
Berghaus Fasthike 45 pack is here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5rPpKea-D4&t=1109sSo yes then this is when it becomes a question of dropping some weight from:
- possibly beloved chair (around 500g)
- umbrella (around 200 g)
- table and cutting board etc (around 80g)
- one pair of Crane thermal base leggings (at 110 g, as I have the hiking trousers, the Helium rain trousers, the Macpac 220 merino leggings for camp and sleeping.)
Or throw money to save weight.
- Lighter quilt with sewn-in footbox like the Enigma in same 20F rating, 10 Denier fabric, is about 550 grams, and would save 140g from my current quilt which was built extra-wide for my infant daughter to fit in with me. Or Zpacks sleeping bag 20F same deal on lighter weight.
- Lighter tent by going to Zpacks Duplex cuban fibre, or other UL tent etc, save 500g. My current Lightheart Gear Solong 6 tent I really like as it is spacious for 1 person, has awning which is enjoyable in rain, was inexpensive on sale and a sample tent in 30 Denier sil-poly. (Judy is going to run all her tents in sil-poly but 20 Denier, building her new factory, and setting up and transitioning right now.) The design is very stable with trekking poles going into fibre glass ridge pole, used by heaps of people successfully in all conditions on the Appelachian Trail etc with great reviews. And the 30 Denier has me feel more confident about going without groundsheet etc. It pitches all-in-one. So in other words, I'm fond of my tent, although it is 1.1 kg with the seam sealing and silicone floor stripes, in the heavier 30 Denier fabric, and there are plenty of lighter options if I threw more money to save weight.
Tent:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_ ... r+solong+6Or, I could jump up to my bigger Berghaus Wilderness 60 + 15 L pack. The negative being it's 1 kg heavier, and how to put it.... bulky, clunky, not at all gazelle-like.
Thoughts?