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Re: BIG 4

Postby Ellobuddha » Fri 31 Oct, 2014 4:31 pm

Lizzy wrote:
Ellobuddha wrote:UPDATED AS WELL

HMG ultamid 2 (ordered). 499g
Neoair all seasons mat 710g
EE Revelation 0f quilt 757g
Osprey Exos 58. 1250g

TOTAL - 3216grams

5867g


Love that your mat is heavier than your tent!



Lizzy, please! Im having enough trouble fighting the "bad parrot" on my shoulder to fix that issue.
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Re: BIG 4

Postby Giddy_up » Fri 31 Oct, 2014 5:23 pm

Lizzy wrote:
Ellobuddha wrote:UPDATED AS WELL

HMG ultamid 2 (ordered). 499g
Neoair all seasons mat 710g
EE Revelation 0f quilt 757g
Osprey Exos 58. 1250g

TOTAL - 3216grams

5867g


Love that your mat is heavier than your tent!


Good tent though, here is mine in action at falls creek.
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Re: BIG 4

Postby icefest » Fri 31 Oct, 2014 7:35 pm

Giddy_up wrote:Good tent though, here is mine in action at falls creek.

Did you ever get in a blizzard with it?
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Re: BIG 4

Postby Ellobuddha » Sat 01 Nov, 2014 8:32 am

Giddy_up wrote:
Lizzy wrote:
Ellobuddha wrote:UPDATED AS WELL

HMG ultamid 2 (ordered). 499g
Neoair all seasons mat 710g
EE Revelation 0f quilt 757g
Osprey Exos 58. 1250g

TOTAL - 3216grams

5867g


Love that your mat is heavier than your tent!


Good tent though, here is mine in action at falls creek.



Is that black cuben or just the light in the photo?
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Re: BIG 4

Postby phan_TOM » Sat 01 Nov, 2014 1:48 pm

Great seeing everyone's setup and the variety of gear used. There's some seriously light kit becoming the norm.

My latest 3 season setup, weights are approximate.

OP McMillan 3000
MLD Duomid 1400 (with silnylon fly, solo inner, carbon fibre pole, tyvek groundsheet, pegs and guylines)
Synmat 7 UL with schnozzel pumpbag - 500
EE revelation 50f - 400
total - 5300

add 500g in winter when I take my WM Sycamore instead of quilt

If I know I have the room to pitch it and/or the weather looks miserable I've been taking my golite SL3 fly instead of the duomid fly, I have on the last two trips and it's been awesome to have all that space & it's just as easy to pitch. Doing this brings the weight up to 5600g, practically skipping along.

Camera gear is still the killer but the new camera setup almost halves the weight of my photography gear

There is an Osprey exos 58 on the wishlist which is the only change that I want to make, the McMillan is fantastic but simply too big for most of my trips. I find near the end of packing for a trip and with space to spare I tend to fill up the remaining space with whatever is lying around, nature abhors a vacuum...
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Re: BIG 4

Postby Giddy_up » Sat 01 Nov, 2014 2:00 pm

icefest wrote:
Giddy_up wrote:Good tent though, here is mine in action at falls creek.

Did you ever get in a blizzard with it?


No blizzard icefest, had one night that was very windy but otherwise great weather.
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Re: BIG 4

Postby Giddy_up » Sat 01 Nov, 2014 2:01 pm

Ellobuddha wrote:
Giddy_up wrote:
Lizzy wrote:[quote="Ellobuddha"]UPDATED AS WELL

HMG ultamid 2 (ordered). 499g
Neoair all seasons mat 710g
EE Revelation 0f quilt 757g
Osprey Exos 58. 1250g

TOTAL - 3216grams

5867g


Love that your mat is heavier than your tent!


Good tent though, here is mine in action at falls creek.



Is that black cuben or just the light in the photo?[/quote]

Black cuben.
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Re: BIG 4

Postby Ellobuddha » Sun 02 Nov, 2014 5:57 am

Was that a one off or a proto (black)?

Havent ever seen them listed on the HMG site.

Just looking closer at the photo - Were you running your corner and middle tie outs to one snow anchor or is it just the angle of ther photo? If so how did it go. Trying to minimise the amount of snow pegs I have to carry - without sacrificing strength/safety.
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Re: BIG 4

Postby Giddy_up » Sun 02 Nov, 2014 12:05 pm

Ellobuddha wrote:Was that a one off or a proto (black)?

Havent ever seen them listed on the HMG site.

Just looking closer at the photo - Were you running your corner and middle tie outs to one snow anchor or is it just the angle of ther photo? If so how did it go. Trying to minimise the amount of snow pegs I have to carry - without sacrificing strength/safety.


One off Ellobuddha, and it's a cracker of a tent. Yep you guessed right on the guys, but if you where in high wind I would just go back to the standard configuration. Here is how I set up inside. Tyvek sheet under a down mat 7 and 0 degree EE cuben quilt. Awesome set up, not cold, not wet and simple and light.
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Re: BIG 4

Postby icefest » Sun 02 Nov, 2014 12:44 pm

Giddy_up wrote: Here is how I set up inside. Tyvek sheet under a down mat 7 and 0 degree EE cuben quilt. Awesome set up, not cold, not wet and simple and light.

Nice trip. I'm not yet 100% sure if I'd take my trailstar to the snow (probably not).

You mean the 0F bag, right?
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Re: BIG 4

Postby Giddy_up » Sun 02 Nov, 2014 1:58 pm

Yep. It wasn't to warm either. Slept mostly in thermals and every night was comfortable.

Go some condensation when I had the mid dug in with snow around the perimeter but it froze, so a nice early pack up meant everything stayed dry. I would just wipe the inside with a chux when I set up at the next camp.

Here is a pic showing frozen condensation and pole set up. Note that I could leave the snow baskets on the poles because of the way the cup is designed.
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Re: BIG 4

Postby icefest » Sun 02 Nov, 2014 2:08 pm

Did you have any snowfall? If so, did you just shake it to get it off or did you have to get up?
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Re: BIG 4

Postby Giddy_up » Sun 02 Nov, 2014 2:19 pm

One good dump through the night, I was out near Tawonga Hut. It all just slipped down and accumulated around the bottom.
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Re: BIG 4

Postby Ellobuddha » Tue 04 Nov, 2014 3:15 am

Itching for mine to turn up.

Bit concerned about strapped trekking poles as centre poles strrngth wise so looking at dedicated pole options as well.

Icefest, whats your concerns with the TS? Snowload?
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Re: BIG 4

Postby icefest » Tue 04 Nov, 2014 6:21 am

Ellobuddha wrote:Icefest, whats your concerns with the TS? Snowload?

Yep, the low angle.
also the lack of a door that closes.
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Re: BIG 4

Postby Ellobuddha » Tue 04 Nov, 2014 6:30 am

Yep fair enough - especially on the no door issue.

Got a duomid coming up for sale soon if you're in the market.
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Re: BIG 4

Postby Eljimberino » Tue 04 Nov, 2014 6:54 pm

With a recent delivery I can make a contribution to this thread, although its lightweight components maybe a little predictable.

Before:
Pack: macpac cascade 75l: 2.6kg
Modified Vaude ultralight tent : 1kg
Sleeping bag: one planet 1.5kg
Mat: thermarest prolite 650g.

Total 5.75kg

After:

Pack: zpacks arcblast 500g
Tent: vaude fly with poles and pegs plus zpacks splash bivy (can be used alone): 810g
Mat: large neo air 450g (better than my home bed)
Sleeping bag: zpacks 500g.

Total: 2260g

Considering swapping tent fly for tarp. Could change neo air for small, but happy for now.




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Re: BIG 4

Postby Giddy_up » Tue 04 Nov, 2014 7:57 pm

Ellobuddha wrote:Itching for mine to turn up.

Bit concerned about strapped trekking poles as centre poles strrngth wise so looking at dedicated pole options as well.

Icefest, whats your concerns with the TS? Snowload?


I have not experienced any problems with using poles. I did how ever reverse the usual application.

Most would use their handle in the cup, but given this and the fact that I use BD poles that are not completely round I found it necessary to use the top pole in reverse. I have punched additional holes in the the straps provided for additional purchase as I found they slipped. Once done I have had no further problems. Moondog 55 has seen my tent erected and has also seen it still erected after a bit of a blow. Nothing serious, but enough to test equipments fortitude. I survived and went on to complete a 8 day sojourn around the Bogong.

As for the zipper, it works without fear or favour, regardless of weather.
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Re: BIG 4

Postby Ellobuddha » Wed 05 Nov, 2014 2:23 am

Ive got BD poles as well so will have to do the same.
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Re: BIG 4

Postby Ellobuddha » Wed 05 Nov, 2014 2:25 am

Eljimberino wrote:With a recent delivery I can make a contribution to this thread, although its lightweight components maybe a little predictable.

Before:
Pack: macpac cascade 75l: 2.6kg
Modified Vaude ultralight tent : 1kg
Sleeping bag: one planet 1.5kg
Mat: thermarest prolite 650g.

Total 5.75kg

After:

Pack: zpacks arcblast 500g
Tent: vaude fly with poles and pegs plus zpacks splash bivy (can be used alone): 810g

Thats a huge decrease in weight. Well done. You'll be bounding along.
Mat: large neo air 450g (better than my home bed)
Sleeping bag: zpacks 500g.

Total: 2260g

Considering swapping tent fly for tarp. Could change neo air for small, but happy for now.




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Re: BIG 4

Postby Parrish » Sun 23 Nov, 2014 6:48 pm

Pack: black diamond infinity 60 1.9kg or we lost world 3.5kg
Tent: nordisk putsch 1.9kg or we space2 2kg
Mat: Xterma 570g
Bag: snowgum spindrift -5 1.5kg or s2s Tallis 3 1.3kg

Min: 5670
Max: 7370
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Re: BIG 4

Postby Mark F » Sun 23 Nov, 2014 8:09 pm

New setup for conditions to freezing.
Zpacks Soloplex (with pegs) - 490 grams
New MYOG quilt - 540 grams
Thermarest Trekker Torso Large - added 130 grams over the xLite short but the extra width is excellent - 380 grams
4 folds of ZLite pad for the back of the pack, under the feet in the tent + sit pad - 100 grams
Laufbursche Huckepack (old model in Dyneema X) - 465 grams
New total 1,975 grams

Below freezing add 500 grams for thicker down jacket and down pants.
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Re: BIG 4

Postby bluetotto » Tue 23 Dec, 2014 2:51 pm

MLD DuoMid: 567 g
Neoair X-term: 570g
EE Revelation 10'F: 659g
Osprey Exos 58 1250g
3046 g
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Re: BIG 4

Postby Pika » Sat 27 Dec, 2014 10:26 am

Tent: Hilleberg Anjan.
Bag: Gregory Baltoro 75
Bag: Sea to Summit TK3
Mat: Therm-a-rest Venture

My wife carries the same (with the exception of the tent) in a Gregory Baltoro 65.
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Re: BIG 4

Postby Explorer_Sam » Sun 11 Jan, 2015 1:21 pm

Pack: Black Wolf Mountain Ash 65L
Tent: Mont Moondance 1
Mat: Kathmandu Self-Inflating Mat (recently upgraded from 2 to 3.8mm thickness)
Bag: Outer Limits MicroSmart 270

Budget gear but it does the job for me. Slowly upgrading it piece by piece. Recently got my ideal tent in the Moondance.
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Re: BIG 4

Postby norts » Sun 11 Jan, 2015 1:51 pm

My big 4 has been updated
Pack: Exped Lightning 60
Tent: Tarptent Moment DW
Mat: Neoair All seasosn
Bag: S2S Talus 1

That is what i will be carrying on the PCT.
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Re: BIG 4

Postby Ellobuddha » Sun 11 Jan, 2015 5:39 pm

Norts,

Whats the weight?

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Re: BIG 4

Postby norts » Sun 11 Jan, 2015 9:21 pm

Exped 1.15
TT 1.2
S2S .88
Neo .54

3.7kg
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Re: BIG 4

Postby JohnStrider » Sun 11 Jan, 2015 9:49 pm

First contribution to this thread...

Tent: D-M-H Hike-Lite Series 2 Person Dome Tent (Huon)
Sleeping Mat: Mountain Designs Air Mat 7.5 Standard
Sleeping bag: EE Quilt 20F Long/Wide
Pack: One Planet Ned 70L
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Re: BIG 4

Postby dinna89 » Tue 13 Jan, 2015 12:54 pm

Tent - Double rainbow - 1200g
Mat - Big Agnes insulated air core 600g
Bag - Kelty Cosmis Down 20F 1200g (soon to be replaced with an EE revelation 40F, 450g)
Pack - Laufbursche HuckePack 58L 540g
total: 3.54kg (soon to be 2.8kg)

I'm pretty happy with the set up for the moment, I don't think I'll have any major changes, although I am interested in testing out a bivy.
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