BIG 4

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Re: BIG 4

Postby JohnStrider » Tue 13 Jan, 2015 1:21 pm

dinna89 wrote:Tent - Double rainbow - 1200g
Mat - Big Agnes insulated air core 600g
Bag - Kelty Cosmis Down 20F 1200g (soon to be replaced with an EE revelation 40F, 450g)
Pack - Laufbursche HuckePack 58L 540g
total: 3.54kg (soon to be 2.8kg)

I'm pretty happy with the set up for the moment, I don't think I'll have any major changes, although I am interested in testing out a bivy.


How do you find the Big Agnes mats, Dinna?
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Re: BIG 4

Postby dinna89 » Tue 13 Jan, 2015 4:46 pm

I'm onto my second after my first had some serious issues and developed a lot of tiny leaks, but they replaced it under warranty, and I've had the new one for about 8 months now and have not yet had any issues.
It's a touch on the heavy side, but is great for the price (i paid around $US80 back when the dollar was high)
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Re: BIG 4

Postby Honeybower » Sat 31 Jan, 2015 8:37 am

:?:
doogs wrote:With 5,037,431 new threads started on the equipment sub forum asking which this, that etc should I buy, being spring the gear acquisitions have obviously started in earnest! I thought it may be helpful to restart this old thread so people can peruse what others are using at the moment. My gear has pretty much changed since I last posted on this thread so here are my outdoor fashion accessories for this summer:

Mountain Designs Dedos 525 sleeping bag 1.1kg
Exped Synmat 0.45kg
Lightwave T10 Ultra XT tent 1.9kg
Macpac Glissade Pack 3kg
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I was surprised to see how old your post was, as I only bought this sleeping bag last year - and am over its shedding issues. My old sleeping bag was nearly 20 years old before it started shedding - the only reason I replaced it. I think it has been a case of out of the pot and into the fire.
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Re: BIG 4

Postby Mitchc » Mon 27 Apr, 2015 10:05 am

Pack - Osprey Exos 48L 1.19kg
Tent - TT ProTrail 770g
Mat - Exped UL7 LW 590g
Bag - EE Revolution LW 621g

Total = 3.17kg
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Re: BIG 4

Postby Overlandman » Sun 26 Jul, 2015 11:05 am

280 New members to the forum since the last post by Mitchc
So just putting Lizzys fantastic BIg 4 back on the front page :)
Tell us about your updates or what you have.
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Re: BIG 4

Postby norts » Sun 26 Jul, 2015 11:26 am

Tent -Tarptent DW Moment
Pad- Thermarest Neoair All Season
Bag- S2S Talus 1
Pack- Macpac Ravine 60L (custom made)
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Re: BIG 4

Postby shehaal » Sun 26 Jul, 2015 12:04 pm

Tent: Hilleberg Nallo 2 GT (when going with my gf; 2.8kg, although I have the mesh inner for warmer weather) or MSR Hubba (solo; 1.6kg)
Pad: Thermarest Neo Air XLITE (382g)
Bag: One Planet Bush Lite -7 800 (1030g)
Pack: Aarn Featherlite Freedom with Balance Pockets (1.52kg for me, 1.4kg for my gf)

Total: 8.54kg for two, 4.53kg if it's just me. I'm waiting on new (larger) scales so some of these are manufacturer figures!
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Re: BIG 4

Postby whitefang » Sun 26 Jul, 2015 12:29 pm

Shelter: 8x10 Borah gear tarp and long/wide borah gear side bivvy w/ stakes 780g
Pad: Therm-a-rest NeoAir Original regular 410g
Bag: Sea to Summit Trek 1 840g
Pack: Osprey Exos 58L w/ lid removed 1046g

Total: 3076g
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Re: BIG 4

Postby Lizzy » Sun 26 Jul, 2015 3:00 pm

Hmmmm mines a bit heavy but shelter is for 3 or 4....

Shelter: Sierra Designs lightning HT 4. 3.15kg
Pad: exped synmat UL7 460g
Pack: Aarn guiding light & expedition pockets. 2.34kg
Bag: western mountaineering Apache MF. 907g

Total: 6.86kg (approx)
Or if only half tent carried- usual scenario: 5.28kg
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Re: BIG 4

Postby Watertank » Sun 26 Jul, 2015 3:43 pm

Exped Synmat UL medium 460 grams
Z Packs Arc Blast 482 grams
Enlightened Equipment Revelation Quilt long and wide 538 grams
Scarp tent Moment Dw 960 grams
Total 2.44 kgs

But if I'm feeling like a bit more comfort I replace the Synmat with a Downmat 7 at 880 grams
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Re: BIG 4

Postby jjoz58 » Mon 27 Jul, 2015 11:15 pm

Just took the plunge and upgraded my pack, from an Osprey.
ZPacks Arc Haul-Zip Backpack - 824grams (Dyneema)
Ground pad - Exped Syn UL7 Long Wide - 595 grams
Tent Zpack Heximid Solo+ - 565 grams
Quilt Zpack Long wide - 655 grams

Total - 2639 grams

Can't see me making any improvements from here for a while.
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Re: BIG 4

Postby DanShell » Tue 28 Jul, 2015 10:57 am

Ive changed my big 4 around again.


Osprey Aether slightly modified 2020g
Tarptent Stratospire 2 Complete 1670g
Exped Synmat 9 620g
Enlightened Equipment Quilt 610g

Total 4920g

So I am going in circles in a way. Ive been lighter but not as comfortable. I have lighter packs but I just love the comfort of the Osprey. I can have a lighter tent for when Im solo and I may one day but at the moment I like having a generous 2 person tent.
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Re: BIG 4

Postby Geta » Sat 12 Sep, 2015 9:47 am

Shelter: Light Heart Gear Duo 1080g approx
Pad: Exped Synmat 7 866g (my next upgrade, don't know why I didn't get the UL version at least...)
Pack: Z-Packs Arc Blast 700g approx, including a few side packs, trekking pole straps etc
Quilt: Katabatic Palisade LW 615g Turns out I didn't need it in long, or wide. Love it, but it's a bit too big for me. Contemplating selling it and getting it in a smaller version...

Total 3261g

A swap to a UL version of the Synmat 7 would bring me down to around 2854g, and I'd be pretty happy with that for now. I also consider the weight of the tent OK to carry solo - I know I could get a smaller, lighter one man tent for when my wife doesn't come, but it's just not worth the money to me right now.
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Re: BIG 4

Postby zac150 » Sat 12 Sep, 2015 7:22 pm

Great thread,

I don't want to hijack the thread but I'll add a fifth, boots as I feel they are up there with packs etc.

Boots - scrapa sl

Pack - Osprey xenith 88

Sleeping bag - snow - old one planet 800l bag, summer is a lighweight north face from Nepal. My go to bag is a salewa I brought 2nd hand from this site for "my daughter" but ahe never got it. It's a great balance between warmth and weight.

Pad- neoair xtherm

Tent - options, summer - either the tarp tent ss2 or northface bivi, winter an old salewa extreme dome.
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Re: BIG 4

Postby onward » Sat 12 Sep, 2015 10:22 pm

Tent - TarpTent ss1 1000gm
Sleeping Bag One Planet BushLite -7C 960gm
Sleeping mattress SynMat UL 7 550gm or Synmat UL Short 400gm
Pack Pack Aarn - FEATHERLITE FREEDOM 1900gm (with 2x sports pockets and liners)

4.4kg
Pack is still the big weight...done a couple of multi-nights with it and the first pack I haven't had bruised hips with, but would like to reduce its weight.
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Re: BIG 4

Postby Juudbruinsma » Sun 20 Sep, 2015 8:35 am

Tent - Hilleberg Anjan 3 (only used with partner, we're both big and tall so opted for extra space)
Pack - Osprey Ariel 65
Mat - Exped Ultralight Down (I sleep cold, love this mat, even though its heavy)
Sleeping bag - S2S micro II and for colder temps Western Mountaineering Versalite
Boots - Hanwag
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Re: BIG 4

Postby Moondog55 » Sun 20 Sep, 2015 10:12 am

Just out of interests sake. When the Versalite arrives try the S2S micro inside it for fit, that may be an ideal combination if you ever go anywhere really cold and will save you purchasing a -40 bag
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Re: BIG 4

Postby scoha » Sun 20 Sep, 2015 12:12 pm

Tent - Big Agnes FlyCreek UL2 - 1184g
Pack - Osprey Exos 58 - 1200g
Bag - Malachowski Ultralight 2 - 480g
Mat - Thermarest ProLite 3/4 - 310g
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Re: BIG 4

Postby Juudbruinsma » Sun 20 Sep, 2015 7:29 pm

Moondog55 wrote:Just out of interests sake. When the Versalite arrives try the S2S micro inside it for fit, that may be an ideal combination if you ever go anywhere really cold and will save you purchasing a -40 bag



Sure, will let you know. Not sure I'll ever go to places where I'll need a minus 40 bag, but happy to test whether it would fit :D
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Re: BIG 4

Postby Rosseth » Sat 10 Oct, 2015 5:12 pm

Overnight kit

Tent - Vango Halo 300 (for wife and I) plus groundsheet
Pack - Tatonka Yukon 60
Mat - Blackwolf super delux (R 5.0), heavyish but oh so comfy.
Bag - Revelation quilt

9kg

Yet to invest in lighter (more pricy) gear for multi night hikes, or solo hikes.
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Re: BIG 4

Postby dagsands » Sun 10 Jan, 2016 3:13 pm

Have just spent a few bucks with Snowys and Macpac upgrading my kit and feel the need to justify the expenditure and this seems an appropriate place! :)

Pack - Osprey Aura Anti Gravity 65L med, 1930g (when not using motorbike panniers :P ). LOVE this women's pack. Had it for a few months now, just day walks filled up for training. Highly recommended!

Tent - Denali Storm III hike tent 3.2kg OR Eureka Rising Sun 2.1kg (the old Eureka I bought in '91 is still great for 1 or 2 but sometimes we'd rather the extra space and Mr Man doesn't mind carrying the extra weight so, fine by me! Can also fit an extra little body when needed) OR for car camping, just bought the Coleman Lakeside 6 Geodesic Dome (two key areas in addition to seams failed on our existing tent over xmas :).

Bag - Mont Constellation 800 (again from 1991) - 1390g, plus just purchased Macpac Escapade 150 Standard (600 Down) 530g, which will beef up the Mont as a liner in cold times and can be used on its own in warmer climes.

Mat - Sea to Summit Comfort Lite Insulated Large, 695g.

With the smaller tent solo, my big 4 is just over 5kg. But I gotta say the Osprey pack feels like I am wearing nothing and makes everything else feel lighter. Same kit in my man's pack feels much heavier.

One of the main reasons for the upgrade was space, especially for warm weather trips. I had a fairly new self inflating foam style regular Thermarest which took up 55x15cm or precious pack/pannier space (and was 1090g). And my Mont takes up 37x20cm without a compression sack. So I am pretty happy to drop $160 on the Macpac lightweight down bag and $195 on the S2S mat which both pack down really small. With my liner I think it will make for a sweet little warm weather sleep system without taking up lots of room. Considered making my own lightweight synthetic quilt from the awesome stuff at Tiergear but once I saw the Escapade I suddenly felt very lazy.

If Snowys get the mats to us in time will give it a test run overnight in Coffs next weekend. Planning to use the Escapade down bag, with the Denali tent, for 6 days on the Abel Tasman walk in March.

I relied heavily on this forum in my decision to purchase the S2S mats. Thanks everyone for your contributions to this forum. I know the large is heavier than the regular and comfort is heavier than the insulated and the insulated is heavier than the non-ins but I don't mind carrying the extra gms when I've had a good night's sleep and I liked the puncture insurance inherent in the two layered system of the comfort and the higher R rating. I also hate having my arms on the floor or having to cross my arms when I sleep on my back (which is what happens on a 55cm wide mat) and I am a bit of a fitful, tossabout side sleeper so the extra width space, albeit just 9cm, I hope will help keep things sweet.

Ok that was all far too verbose for a Big 4 post, but like I said, had to justify that $pending ! :lol:
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Re: BIG 4

Postby jjoz58 » Sun 10 Jan, 2016 3:57 pm

Wife stole my quilt even when I said I would buy her one, so now.

ZPacks Arc Haul-Zip Backpack - 824grams (Dyneema)
Ground pad - Exped Syn UL7 Long Wide - 595 grams
Tent Zpack Heximid Solo+ - 565 grams
Quilt EE Long - 538 grams

Total - 2522 grams

Her bad luck she could have had the lighter one.
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Re: BIG 4

Postby bertie » Sun 10 Jan, 2016 6:38 pm

Pack: Osprey Aether 70 (approx 1600g)
Tent: Tarptent Double Moment (approx 1600g once sealed and including stuff bag)
Mat: Thermarest Pro Lite small (330g with additional strap)
Bag: Some random bag with Dupont thermolite(tm) microfibre filling, unknown weight, branded with "Great Outdoors".

The bag is meeting my needs currently, but it's the only one of the 4 I'm thinking about upgrading any time soon.
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Re: BIG 4

Postby CasualNerd » Sun 10 Jan, 2016 9:40 pm

I've been on a mission to cut my gear weight down, since getting a new mat and bag things have improved greatly:

Pack: Macpac Torre 90L 3.1Kg / Osprey Kestrel 48L 1.6Kg
Tent: Macpac Olympus 3.1Kg
Mat: S2S Comfort Light insulated 580 Gm
Bag: S2S Trek II 1.05Kg

So I carried nearly 8Kg just for the big four this weekend, which is way less than ideal. Can't wait to afford a smaller / lighter tent then I won't have to carry the big pack very often ! I'm incredibly jealous of those with sub 3Kg gear.
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Re: BIG 4

Postby paul_gee » Mon 11 Jan, 2016 1:14 pm

dagsands wrote:If Snowys get the mats to us in time will give it a test run overnight in Coffs next weekend.


Happy to follow up your order and strive for this to happen, Dagsands. :)
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Re: BIG 4

Postby paul_gee » Mon 11 Jan, 2016 1:21 pm

Right, this looks like fun. My turn. This is my lightweight, Spring / Autumn set up, where tenting is required. Oh, and for solo hiking only. (My usual NZ set up is the same minus the tent and sometimes the mat.)

Tent - Zempire Mono. I am about to take one of these on an 8 day bicycle touring trip around Lake Eildon / Mt Buller. Once I thrash it to pieces I will look at finally buying a Mont Moondance 1.
Bag - One Planet Sac 1. Yep, it's a big heavy synthetic bag. But I love it so. Time for a S2S Spark or Trek?
Pack - Macpac Amp Light 45. I sometimes opt for a slightly bigger Osprey, depending on food and water needs.
Mat - Sea to Summit Ultralight Regular. This is another item I will be trialling on my upcoming bike trip.
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Re: BIG 4

Postby dagsands » Mon 11 Jan, 2016 1:49 pm

paul_gee wrote:
dagsands wrote:If Snowys get the mats to us in time will give it a test run overnight in Coffs next weekend.


Happy to follow up your order and strive for this to happen, Dagsands. :)


Thanks Paul! It's for Nadine - 2 mats and a tent and a spork :) What service!! :)
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Re: BIG 4

Postby Tintin » Tue 12 Jan, 2016 12:25 am

I haven't purchased all of the following, but my setup will look something like this:

Tent: Big Agnes Cooper Spur UL2 (1.28kg)
Pack: ULA Circuit (1.07kg)
Bag: EE Revelation -6 C quilt (0.63kg)
Pad: S2S Ultralight Insulted Regular (0.49kg)

Total = 3.47 kg

Pretty much upgraded my big 4 now, from a previous cumulative weight of ~7kg. Really happy with that. I can only see me adding a tent, such as the ZPacks hexamid solo, for solo trips once I become really hardcore. The 2P tent is for myself and the GF so could technically ship half the weight off to her and take my weight down to 2.9kg. I would never do that though :P
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Re: BIG 4

Postby Walk_fat boy_walk » Tue 12 Jan, 2016 8:41 am

Been a while since I updated this, so...

For lighter/warmer trips:
Large Thermarest NeoAir Xlite mat (460g)
Western Mountaineering Alpinlite bag (the long version... 935g)
ULA Ohm pack (large... 900g)
MLD cricket tarp (260 incl. ti stakes) + Zpacks solo plus groundsheet (100g) (both cuben... also mix and match with a borah cuben bivy depending on where I'm going - an extra 130g or so for the long version)

For heavier/colder trips:
Large Thermarest NeoAir Xlite mat (460g)
Western Mountaineering Alpinlite bag (the long version... 935g)
OP WBA pack (2.2 kg for the large)
Mont Moondance II tent (bit under 2kg)

So that's 2.7kg for light trips and 5.6kg for heavier trips. Tend to take a horses for courses approach and mix and match between those combinations... eg. will take the OP pack even if warm on scrubbier trips or trips where water is scarce and need to carry a lot. Bivy adds a lot of flexibility and is light enough to carry as an option. Also thinking of getting a quilt for lighter trips which would bring the minimum weight down to about 2.3kg - the WM bag is great but overkill for a lot of situations and often just rely on the bivy.
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Re: BIG 4

Postby paul_gee » Tue 12 Jan, 2016 8:58 am

dagsands wrote:
paul_gee wrote:
dagsands wrote:If Snowys get the mats to us in time will give it a test run overnight in Coffs next weekend.


Happy to follow up your order and strive for this to happen, Dagsands. :)


Thanks Paul! It's for Nadine - 2 mats and a tent and a spork :) What service!! :)


PM'd you. :)
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