Warbonnet Blackbird 1.1double layer Hammock (Images)

[ULWalkingPhil]

Last week I bit the bullet and ordered my first hammock. Thanks to all the info here I too have decided on a Blackbird double layer 1.1 with webbing suspension and a Mamajamba tarp. Now all I have to do is learn how to tie knots and rig it all up. This is going to be a great learning experience. I am having fun already and I haven't even got it yet

Congratulations Packo. Your going to love the Warbonnet Hammock and Tarp.

[cams]

Mine just arrived Apart from the box looking like it was punted from the USA to here all looked ok inside. The biners it came with didn't look that great quality. I had picked up a couple of petzl ange (28g) ones to use with it anyway. Now I just have to find some trees to hang it from. Nothing hangable in my yard so I'll have to look further afield.

Now I'm just waiting on the zpacks tarp to be completed. It was a 4 week lead time which started about 3 weeks ago. Might order some whoopies in the meantime. Looks like they will be pretty easy to swap in for the webbing suspension.

[ULWalkingPhil]

About time, That was a long wait. I'm glad you can finally get to enjoy the hammock. I've read that some have ordered in July and still waiting for there hammock or tarp. That's crazy, particularly considering you have to pay up front in full. You can't go past there quality, comfort and workmanship, so it's worth the wait. I believe turn around will be improved from now, as they have upgraded to new cutting machines and a larger venue.

Whoopieslings.com is supplying a Tarp Ridge Line that will utilise the dutch clips that are mentioned on another hammock forum.

[ULWalkingPhil]

How you finding your new Hammock cams?

I wonder if a new category could be added to the forums here for Hammock Camping?

[cams]

I had a hang in a local picnic area to test it out. Was pretty awesome. I'm still waiting for my tarp to get here before I take it out for a night (USPS express has been in transit since 30 Sep lol). It should arrive this week and I've got a climbing workshop this weekend so hopefully I'll give it a go then.

[ULWalkingPhil]

I had a hang in a local picnic area to test it out. Was pretty awesome. I'm still waiting for my tarp to get here before I take it out for a night (USPS express has been in transit since 30 Sep lol). It should arrive this week and I've got a climbing workshop this weekend so hopefully I'll give it a go then.

I look for every opportunity I can get to go camping. so I can lay in my hammock. So relaxing on my back.

With this warmer weather now moving in, Hang the tarp of higher, very refreshing, With the breeze blowing on my hammock, I was getting cold underneath had to setup my Underquilt. I can see it's going to be a lot cooler in a hammock than in a tent during summer.

[cams]

Just got my tarp in the mail. So small and light. Can't wait to give it a go.

[Bluegum Mic]

Ooooo. Nice one. I think I've got tarp envy You'll have to do a review.

[wayno]

IN NZ thats called fly envy

[ULWalkingPhil]

Post some images of your tarp, if you get a chance.

Packs very small. Is it cuben?

[Macca81]

Is it cuben?

The stuff sack is, so you would expect the tarp to be also, as the weight saving on a cuben sack vs sil sack would be so small that it would be just for show

As such, i hope he didnt just get a cuben sack

[cams]

Is it cuben?

The stuff sack is, so you would expect the tarp to be also, as the weight saving on a cuben sack vs sil sack would be so small that it would be just for show

As such, i hope he didnt just get a cuben sack

hehe yeah. It is cuben inside too. Zpacks doorless hammock tarp. 150g before seem sealing which I did this morning. Will get some photo's of it set up this weekend while I'm away.

[Packo]

I finally received my Blackbird and tarp on Friday. All up it was about 5 weeks from order to delivery. I set it up in the backyard on Saturday and spent the night in it. What a fantastic nights sleep. I am hooked. I do need to look at getting a wider pad as my shoulders did get a little cold using just an exped downmat 7. I will get some closed cell foam and see how that goes.

[cams]

I finally received my Blackbird and tarp on Friday. All up it was about 5 weeks from order to delivery. I set it up in the backyard on Saturday and spent the night in it. What a fantastic nights sleep. I am hooked. I do need to look at getting a wider pad as my shoulders did get a little cold using just an exped downmat 7. I will get some closed cell foam and see how that goes.

I spent my first night in mine on Friday night too up at Mt. French. Awesome campsite for hanging with an abundance of large trees and minimal undergrowth. I must say that I had the same experience with cold spots around my shoulders with a self inflating mattress (without any air in it) underneath. So I'm thinking an under quilt is definitely on the cards.

My Mont-Bell down hugger sleeping bag worked really well as a top quilt with the zipper undone all the way.

Comfort wise, I'm pretty happy. Pretty sure I got a fair amount of sleep.

The zpacks tarp went really well too. I'm annoyed I forgot to get a photo but it had just the right amount of coverage I reackon. And it pitched really nicely with only 4 guylines and stayed that way for the whole night and day. Happy with my tarp pitching methods too. Just using mini line locs at each end of the ridge with some 2mm dyneema line out to each tree. So to set up I just wrap the line around the tree and through a loop in the end of the cord, then just thread it through the line loc and tighten.

[photohiker]

Will get some photo's of it set up this weekend while I'm away.

Bump.

That was 3 weeks ago! Need photos

I'm thinking zpacks or hammockgear cf tarp with doors. Looking for Aussie reviews...

[michael_p]

http://www.youtube.com/embed/4V44-bu7J-U

I got to learn how to embed these video's.

Phillipsart,

You just need to use the group of number/letters/symbols after the "?v=" or "embed/" and before the first "&" between youtube tags (see code example below).

Using the video you posted for example. The whole URL is: "http://www.youtube.com/embed/4V44-bu7J-U". You only need to paste the "4V44-bu7J-U" bit in between youtube BB Code tags. So this code:

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[youtube]4V44-bu7J-U[/youtube]

Produces this video:

I hope this makes sense and is of some help.

Cheers,
Michael.

P.S. Now you guys have got me looking at hammocks. I think I have got the bug too. Oh, yeah, before I forget, funny video.

[ULWalkingPhil]

http://www.youtube.com/embed/4V44-bu7J-U

I got to learn how to embed these video's.

Phillipsart,

You just need to use the group of number/letters/symbols after the "?v=" or "embed/" and before the first "&" between youtube tags (see code example below).

Using the video you posted for example. The whole URL is: "http://www.youtube.com/embed/4V44-bu7J-U". You only need to paste the "4V44-bu7J-U" bit in between youtube BB Code tags. So this code:

Code: Select all

[youtube]4V44-bu7J-U[/youtube]

Produces this video:

I hope this makes sense and is of some help.

Cheers,
Michael.

P.S. Now you guys have got me looking at hammocks. I think I have got the bug too. Oh, yeah, before I forget, funny video.

Thanks Michael.
I understand now. This always had me confused

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[ULWalkingPhil]

Yes, that tarp in the video is a classic. Very hard to come by I believe. Very easily lost.
It's got better camo than my tarp.

[cams]

Will get some photo's of it set up this weekend while I'm away.

Bump.

That was 3 weeks ago! Need photos

I'm thinking zpacks or hammockgear cf tarp with doors. Looking for Aussie reviews...

Sorry. I did take it away for a night but I forgot to get photo's. Haven't had it out again since. The size seems good though. Plenty of coverage. Being my first cf tarp or tent I was really happy, as most people seem to be, with the pitching characteristics of it. It was really easy to get taught and it stayed that way. As you'd expect, the ends are fairly open so doesn't provide much privacy.

My only doubt about it is with the strength of the material itself and how it will hold up to branches falling on it etc. Combined with the expense of it just makes me a bit nervous. It is amazing material though and much stronger than the weight of it makes you think.

[ULWalkingPhil]

I'm also curious as to how CF will cope with UV light in the long run.

[Macca81]

A quick search pulled up this...

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[ULWalkingPhil]

Just returned home from 3 days camping on the coast just behind a dune, Best nights sleep in my Warbonnet Hammock.

[ULWalkingPhil]

Returned from another overnight camp, this time I was told there is no trees, It was painful having to have to pack the tent instead of my hammock. I had a terrible nights sleep, woke up through out the night with a sore stiff back, just couldn't get comfy. Give me a hammock any day. In the end, there was trees I could have used. Will not make that mistake again.

[photohiker]

Phillip,

You've got the Superfly haven't you? It wouldn't take much to pitch it on the ground if you need to, especially if you normally use the poles in your avatar.

Last trip, I carried both the tent and the hammock. Used the tent 1 night out of 7. I'm now equipping myself with a fly that will be suitable for going to ground, and in future unless a tent is a requirement I plan to only carry the hammock gear with extra necessities for ground pitching (sleeping pad, groundsheet; So +4-500g). Even with that ground capability weight impost, the hammock kit is lighter than the tent kit.

[ULWalkingPhil]

Phillip,

You've got the Superfly haven't you? It wouldn't take much to pitch it on the ground if you need to, especially if you normally use the poles in your avatar.

Last trip, I carried both the tent and the hammock. Used the tent 1 night out of 7. I'm now equipping myself with a fly that will be suitable for going to ground, and in future unless a tent is a requirement I plan to only carry the hammock gear with extra necessities for ground pitching (sleeping pad, groundsheet; So +4-500g). Even with that ground capability weight impost, the hammock kit is lighter than the tent kit.

Hi Michael, Sorry I have taken so long to respond. been out traveling, hiking, camping for most of this month, Returned back home this morning.
I've spent more nights in my hammock this month than any other bed and my back is thanking me for it. Some of the best sleep i've had in a long time. I'm dreading having to have to sleep in my bed tonight, that thing is like a torture machine. I'll probably end up pumping up my air bed and sleeping on it tonight.

Just wish I could have a winner with this shoe battle I'm having. might just go purchase a pair of sandshoes instead.

[photohiker]

This splicing business is less hassle than I thought it was.

Moved to the Hammock Setups topic

[ULWalkingPhil]

Price vs Weight....Durability ?
As long as they last as long as a Superfly etc.....otherwise i can see the $ per gram going up !
Will be interested in the longeviety of your tarp over a period of time....hopefully you'll keep us posted....
big wieght savings though !
Or maybe I'll just check it out myself.....ooh the temptation

My tarp?? I don't have one, I'm just fantasising here.

After checking out Hammock Forums (heck, that's a busy and helpful forum!), I've put my toe in the water for a Hammock. (thanks Phil, that's your fault!) Will worry about a tarp later if it works out, but Tyvec is cheap to play with. Perhaps a minimalist tarp and a full-on tarp like the superfly or cuben variant would be the go. As far as I can tell, cuben is quite strong, stronger than silnylon. Weak durability points are abrasion and seam strength and sealing if the seams are sewn (silicone sealer doesn't stick well to cuben apparently) Bonded seams don't have those problems. On the plus side, it doesn't stretch, and it doesn't absorb moisture like silnylon.

MLD reckon they have never had a cuben tarp fail...

You should buy one and report back, its only 300 smackeroos.

I will be able to report on the Cuben tarp soon, as I have ordered one. ETA two weeks.

[Bluegum Mic]

Im a little torn as I have both. My sil tarp is a flat tarp and gives fantastic coverage (like your superfly you can really close this down over you like a tent). I also have the macat 4 season but is cat cut. It is absolutely amazing in really windy conditions...stays drum tight and doesn't flap or move. Ive had it out when we received 150mm of rain in two nights and I didn't like having the cat cut as there was a little bit of splash up (note this was extremely awful weather and the two trees were on a slope so I was higher off the ground one end to the other). That being said it performed flawlessly and Id highly recommend it...It was just one of those nights I would have loved my big red TRG prospecting tarp

[Wingnut]

Returned from another overnight camp, this time I was told there is no trees, It was painful having to have to pack the tent instead of my hammock. I had a terrible nights sleep, woke up through out the night with a sore stiff back, just couldn't get comfy. Give me a hammock any day. In the end, there was trees I could have used. Will not make that mistake again.

I was going to ask what happens when you don't have any trees?

I was considering getting a 1 man tent soon to ad to my 2 man tents but then considered a hammock, problem is I like to camp in the desert so I gather this is a no go?

I personally sleep in a hammock at home...have done for a while now...