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Re: Gaiters - What are the most bomb proof?

Postby gbagua » Mon 15 Dec, 2014 3:29 pm

ninjapuppet wrote:Snake proof gaiters!

I just got a pair of these Moroka.30 gaiters for off track walking and hunting. Abit expensive



A rip-off I would say...and no stats. No review, nothing. They must be dreaming!

Anyway having wire under the boot/shoe is a must in any gaiter. They should all come with that feature. Got a pair of Tatonka ones, which I need to replace soon, they are just OK. I need something less sweaty and with the wire insert straps and a better tightening system of the straps, like when you tighten a belt instead of the typical system you find in cheap gaiters. TheKathmandu NGX product seems that ticks all the boxes...but in the field, are they that good? :?
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Re: Gaiters - What are the most bomb proof?

Postby wayno » Mon 15 Dec, 2014 3:36 pm

have a look at them and see how heay duty they look,, i'd look at a lot of other brands before I'd trust kathmandu... only the ankles are heavy nylon on those. it doesnt say how heavy the rest of the gaiters are, zoom in on the image and the denier looks a lot lot lighter for the uppers...

http://www.kathmandu.com.au/gaiters-ngx-long-black.html
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Re: Gaiters - What are the most bomb proof?

Postby gbagua » Mon 15 Dec, 2014 3:40 pm

I need to try them on. I am suspicious about the strength of the elastic band at the bottom as well. They look as if they are asking to roll up at any time to encounter a bit of thick bush.

I also found this on eBay:

Aspiring canvas.

Pity the crappy pic. That isn't too helpful. :(

Has anyone tested them?
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Re: Gaiters - What are the most bomb proof?

Postby wayno » Mon 15 Dec, 2014 3:50 pm

its wire running under the kathmandu gaiter. the strap part has some sort of woven plastic at it's core
wire is useless in rocky areas, it frays and you end up with sharp wire strands poking out everywhere wanting to punch holes in just about anything it comes into contact with...
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Re: Gaiters - What are the most bomb proof?

Postby wayno » Mon 15 Dec, 2014 4:09 pm

cactus are regarded pretty highly for durability... specialise in gear for mountain sports and tradesmen

http://www.cactusoutdoor.co.nz/clothing ... iters.html
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Re: Gaiters - What are the most bomb proof?

Postby Bluegum Mic » Mon 15 Dec, 2014 6:16 pm

Love my custom ones from terrarosagear. Evans a great guy and will make them to your size. I've had mine for a few years now
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Re: Gaiters - What are the most bomb proof?

Postby markg » Mon 15 Dec, 2014 7:32 pm

Moroka 30s.
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Re: Gaiters - What are the most bomb proof?

Postby corvus » Mon 15 Dec, 2014 7:43 pm

IMHO these are the most "bomb proof" gaiter you will ever purchase. http://wildernessequipment.com.au/detail.php?Code=WEBG
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Re: Gaiters - What are the most bomb proof?

Postby Strider » Mon 15 Dec, 2014 10:38 pm

corvus wrote:IMHO these are the most "bomb proof" gaiter you will ever purchase. http://wildernessequipment.com.au/detail.php?Code=WEBG

The stitching on mine is starting to let go around the bottom after three years of fairly easy walking. I don't even walk off track. Good gaiters but far from bombproof.
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Re: Gaiters - What are the most bomb proof?

Postby Cool Breeze » Tue 16 Dec, 2014 8:11 am

Have been using OR Crocs for over a year now and they still look brand new. Worth a look http://www.outdoorresearch.com/en/mens- ... 037a5.html
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Re: Gaiters - What are the most bomb proof?

Postby gbagua » Tue 16 Dec, 2014 10:18 am

Thanks but when it comes to spend some $ on non-cheapo stuff I need to try them on first...or it'll be wasted money. Much appreciated.

wayno wrote:its wire running under the kathmandu gaiter. the strap part has some sort of woven plastic at it's core
wire is useless in rocky areas, it frays and you end up with sharp wire strands poking out everywhere wanting to punch holes in just about anything it comes into contact with...


My old gaiters (mountaineering in Europe) had wire but I used them for ice and snow climbing until they started making this type. Switched and never looked back to anything that relied on a sole strap. I don't need something like it in QLD but you may in NZ. :)
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Re: Gaiters - What are the most bomb proof?

Postby corvus » Tue 16 Dec, 2014 5:02 pm

Strider wrote:
corvus wrote:IMHO these are the most "bomb proof" gaiter you will ever purchase. http://wildernessequipment.com.au/detail.php?Code=WEBG

The stitching on mine is starting to let go around the bottom after three years of fairly easy walking. I don't even walk off track. Good gaiters but far from bombproof.


You have the older style which I have also used, these are a complete revamp and higher up on the boot to alleviate the abrasion on the stitching.
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Re: Gaiters - What are the most bomb proof?

Postby Eljimberino » Tue 16 Dec, 2014 5:05 pm

I like my sea to summit quagmires.
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Re: Gaiters - What are the most bomb proof?

Postby skog » Tue 16 Dec, 2014 5:41 pm

After reading through this thread and a number of the older posts. What is a good brand of gaiters for Tas? What about the Macpac that was based on feedback from Tasmanian walkers?
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Re: Gaiters - What are the most bomb proof?

Postby Strider » Tue 16 Dec, 2014 5:43 pm

corvus wrote:
Strider wrote:
corvus wrote:IMHO these are the most "bomb proof" gaiter you will ever purchase. http://wildernessequipment.com.au/detail.php?Code=WEBG

The stitching on mine is starting to let go around the bottom after three years of fairly easy walking. I don't even walk off track. Good gaiters but far from bombproof.


You have the older style which I have also used, these are a complete revamp and higher up on the boot to alleviate the abrasion on the stitching.

Yep. With the green canvas. I want to try the latest model S2S Quagmire next time round.
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Re: Gaiters - What are the most bomb proof?

Postby Strider » Tue 16 Dec, 2014 5:47 pm

skog wrote:After reading through this thread and a number of the older posts. What is a good brand of gaiters for Tas? What about the Macpac that was based on feedback from Tasmanian walkers?

It would seem that they've dumped the Torre Gaiters from the line up and are back to just offering the Cascade model again.
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Re: Gaiters - What are the most bomb proof?

Postby markg » Tue 16 Dec, 2014 7:41 pm

They are indeed snake proof , they have a Vid of a guy getting a tiger snake to bite the gators , his arms are in the gators and it's all good. Most aussie snakes don't have the ammo (fang size or strength to bite through all but the thinnest material. Ive had them bite breathable waders, brown snake, and copperhead and tiger on boots whilst fishing. I'd wear any of the mentioned brands with complete confidence.
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Re: Gaiters - What are the most bomb proof?

Postby Strider » Fri 02 Oct, 2015 11:28 pm

So, my WE Bush Gaiters suffered an untimely death on the OLT this week (I still can't work out how but I badly tore the canvas on both of them near the inner ankle area). They've probably done less than 30 days walking in their life.

Are the latest incarnation of STS Quagmires living up to expectiations? Or should I go down the One Planet RFG route?

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Re: Gaiters - What are the most bomb proof?

Postby north-north-west » Sat 03 Oct, 2015 10:05 am

corvus wrote:
Strider wrote:
corvus wrote:IMHO these are the most "bomb proof" gaiter you will ever purchase. http://wildernessequipment.com.au/detail.php?Code=WEBG

The stitching on mine is starting to let go around the bottom after three years of fairly easy walking. I don't even walk off track. Good gaiters but far from bombproof.

You have the older style which I have also used, these are a complete revamp and higher up on the boot to alleviate the abrasion on the stitching.

Funny, that's one area where I've never had trouble with stitching - plus a gaiter is supposed to be as low as possible on the boot too help keep the water and mud out.

I've still not found anything with a better overall design than the S2S Quagmire. The only issue is that the velcro is stronger than its stitching - if they've fixed that you won't find a better value gaiter, although the OR Crocs are close.
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Re: Gaiters - What are the most bomb proof?

Postby Strider » Sat 03 Oct, 2015 10:38 am

I have the OR Crocs you gave me NNW, which I like but I do prefer canvas, plus the plastic top clips snapped quite easily.

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Re: Gaiters - What are the most bomb proof?

Postby Strider » Sat 03 Oct, 2015 11:06 am

Had a poke around Hobart and settled on Quagmire Canvas. Only thing is they are quite long on me (I'm only 5'6") but they seemed the best option for the price range.

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Re: Gaiters - What are the most bomb proof?

Postby aloftas » Sat 03 Oct, 2015 11:15 am

I have a pair of macpac gaiters. I take what you said wayno about the wire bottoms.
Important gear though, indeed. Should keep the boot dry if worn correctly.
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Re: Gaiters - What are the most bomb proof?

Postby Drew » Wed 11 Nov, 2015 8:31 pm

Apart from bombproofness...

Any point paying more to get Goretex or Event gaiters? I don't generally like to wear gaiters because they make my legs hot and sweaty, but sometimes they're necessary. Will breathable material make much difference (I don't generally have much faith in breathable stuff) or is being able to open up the top of the gaiter nice and wide going to provide better ventilation than anything?

As far as the bombproof debate goes, there doesn't seem to be a clear winner! Generally I think One Planet gear is pretty tough, but their gaiters are pricey. The OR Crocs can be found much cheaper (and Outdoor Research have a pretty much lifetime guarantee apparently), as can the Quagmires.
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Re: Gaiters - What are the most bomb proof?

Postby Strider » Wed 11 Nov, 2015 8:37 pm

Canvas is very breathable, if not more breathable than the WPB fabrics. I've found that I can't open the top wide enough on any gaiters I've owned (WE Canvas, OR Croc Goretex, S2S Quagmire Canvas) to really make any difference to ventilation, but I definitely get less sweaty in the canvas models.

If the Crocs really do have a lifetime guarantee, you'll probably need it. They are a fantastic design but poorly executed IMO.

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Re: Gaiters - What are the most bomb proof?

Postby Drew » Wed 11 Nov, 2015 8:59 pm

I saw a school group recently and they all had old One Planet gaiters that were stiff as a board. With the kids' skinny legs there was lots of room at the top and with the stiffness the gaiters stood up straight. My legs are pretty skinny so that might work for me! Or I might just try some canvas ones.

I just found out about the Outdoor Research warranty recently: http://www.outdoorresearch.com/en/warranty/

I've got a pair of OR pants with holes and my partner has a number of pairs of OR gloves with holes so I'm giving it a go. I'll let you know how I get on.
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Re: Gaiters - What are the most bomb proof?

Postby stry » Wed 11 Nov, 2015 9:21 pm

Gaiters - the never ending story !

FWIW - I like canvas. I prefer rear opening, although it does make them fussier to put on. I haven't used front opening, but reckon alpine scrub would quickly pull velcro open and also pop studs, although perhaps less quickly than velcro. I can't see a scuff pad inside the ankle on any of those linked to - a leather patch works well on mine. If being used on rocks and scree, (think NZ in particular) strings, straps and cords underneath are all useless and can be destroyed in less than half a day. Bit disappointed to hear from Wayno that wire isn't much better. Mine have hardened chain,which is excellent. If the commercial offerings have decent eyelets, they could easily be retrofitted with chain.

Of all the photos that I have seen in this thread, the closest to covering it all from my point of view would be the Terrarosa offering. Covers everything and would be easy to home fit with chain underneath. If they don't have scuff pads inside the ankles, I'm sure that Evan could include them.
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Re: Gaiters - What are the most bomb proof?

Postby Strider » Wed 11 Nov, 2015 9:29 pm

Front openings never come undone, but many people do find that the stitching wears prematurely. The only design that negates this is OP, where all the structural stitching is concealed.

Are wear patches really needed on modern cordura fabrics? I note that STS have got rid of them on the current iteration of the Quagmire. Mind you...my WE bush gaiters did both rip just above the canvas/cordura join on the inside of the ankle.

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Re: Gaiters - What are the most bomb proof?

Postby north-north-west » Thu 12 Nov, 2015 10:00 am

Strider wrote:Front openings never come undone, but many people do find that the stitching wears prematurely.

It's not just wear from brushing through scrub - the velcro is heaps stronger than the thread used to stitch it on, so every time you remove the gaiter you're stressing the stitching. Eventually it gives.
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Re: Gaiters - What are the most bomb proof?

Postby biggbird » Thu 19 Nov, 2015 8:37 am

One thing I have found quite annoying with the current iteration of the Quagmires is their new top closure system, with essentially a pull through cord/buckle that then clips into a loop on the other side. The tops of my gaiters seem to loosen up and come open with much more frequency than the old velcro strap jobs, leading to lots of sticks and leaves down the gaiters and into the boots. Considering that was one of the biggest things I was trying to avoid when I started wearing gaiters in the first place, it's kinda annoying. Other than that though, I really do like the Quagmires. At least they don't just bust open at the top like the OP RFGs... Who knows, maybe it's just my unreasonably large calves?
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Re: Gaiters - What are the most bomb proof?

Postby Strider » Thu 19 Nov, 2015 8:58 am

biggbird wrote:One thing I have found quite annoying with the current iteration of the Quagmires is their new top closure system, with essentially a pull through cord/buckle that then clips into a loop on the other side. The tops of my gaiters seem to loosen up and come open with much more frequency than the old velcro strap jobs, leading to lots of sticks and leaves down the gaiters and into the boots. Considering that was one of the biggest things I was trying to avoid when I started wearing gaiters in the first place, it's kinda annoying. Other than that though, I really do like the Quagmires. At least they don't just bust open at the top like the OP RFGs... Who knows, maybe it's just my unreasonably large calves?

Are you talking about this version?
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