Vac Seal 101

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Vac Seal 101

Postby Nuts » Tue 20 Dec, 2011 9:19 pm

OK, One for the hidden :wink:

This is pretty straight forward. I guess its more a group thing to need spare rolls and vac sealing them is something most will work out with ten seconds of their life devoted to thinking about the dilemma. How best to carry the humble bogg roll?. Some even use tissue packs so i'm not sure how wide the interest will be but the outcome has some (not so obvious) advantages.

So.. its simple, the roll is vac sealed... all important, remove the inner cardboard cylinder. It weighs a shocking 5g's (look of horror)..

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Of course the weight and greatly reduced bulk is not the only (or close to the most important) reason for removing the core (as anyone old enough to own a vac sealer and bored enough to devote time to dunny rolls will already know) ????
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Re: Vac Seal 101

Postby corvus » Tue 20 Dec, 2011 9:38 pm

For personal use I find the 9 sheet individually packed 4 ply tissues ideal, distributed within your pack should ensure no shortage of clean dry "bumph" :)
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Re: Vac Seal 101

Postby Nuts » Tue 20 Dec, 2011 9:44 pm

I know corv, I thought i had you covered :) You didn't give me an answer though?? :wink:

But it's past my bed time, must sleep..
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Re: Vac Seal 101

Postby corvus » Tue 20 Dec, 2011 9:59 pm

The individual tissue packs should not need vac seal unless you are doing a Rafting trip so not a requirement
for "dry land" walks :) does that give you an answer :?: :lol:
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Re: Vac Seal 101

Postby Nuts » Wed 21 Dec, 2011 7:58 am

No..no it doesn't, for a few reasons, but lets just say this game isn't off to a flying start..
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Re: Vac Seal 101

Postby michael_p » Wed 21 Dec, 2011 8:45 am

Nuts wrote: 5g's (look of horror)..

Thanks Nuts. Another 5g saved. :lol:
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Re: Vac Seal 101

Postby Nuts » Wed 21 Dec, 2011 9:10 am

Ha Ha, yer welcome, no reason to carry it right... I'm itching to get this second pic off my desktop though.. the one showing the main reason to remove the centre..

(meanwhile, has anyone else got any unusual vac seal ideas. The kindle doesn't work well but i'm sure there would be other inspirations out there i haven't considered??
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Re: Vac Seal 101

Postby geoskid » Wed 21 Dec, 2011 10:43 am

Nuts wrote:No..no it doesn't, for a few reasons, but lets just say this game isn't off to a flying start..


I'm playing, but just very quietly. Suspense is growing.
So, your'e taking the core out because........ you're.... :? Nuts :) No no, you have a use for the core.. to pack something in?
If it's not about weight or volume? S'pose your going to say we have to think outside the cylinder. :lol:
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Re: Vac Seal 101

Postby Nuts » Wed 21 Dec, 2011 11:17 am

I must be nuts, an idea that took all of an extra 30secs dream time and i'm about to give it away (well...eventually :wink: )
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Re: Vac Seal 101

Postby geoskid » Wed 21 Dec, 2011 11:17 am

You've gone and made a model banana-copter with it , hav'nt you? :lol:
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Re: Vac Seal 101

Postby Nuts » Wed 21 Dec, 2011 11:23 am

Ahh, now that would be a good thing, a megaphone, a telescope... start a fire to get attention lol

None of the above, the cardboard roll stays home, the trick is in the bag..
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Re: Vac Seal 101

Postby geoskid » Wed 21 Dec, 2011 11:36 am

Nuts wrote:
None of the above, the cardboard roll stays home, the trick is in the bag..

By removing the core, when you start using the roll you can dispense it from the middle thru a small hole?
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Re: Vac Seal 101

Postby Nuts » Wed 21 Dec, 2011 11:40 am

Excellent! Lateral thinking, well done.

Yep, through the hole, pull back in and seal with a rubber band. It also helps to take the paper with you rather than the whole thing. If someone is having a bad day they only need to touch the paper, nothing else. For the tight *&^%$#@! a quick squeeze of the roll dictates when the allocated number of squares is reached lol

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Re: Vac Seal 101

Postby Nuts » Wed 21 Dec, 2011 11:41 am

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Used to work better (less plastic) with the smaller vac seal rolls. Not taking the thing to the toilet means they can be reused (with a bit of extra length to the bag)
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Re: Vac Seal 101

Postby geoskid » Wed 21 Dec, 2011 12:07 pm

Very good - I look forward to the fruits of tomorrows sleep in. :)
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Re: Vac Seal 101

Postby michael_p » Wed 21 Dec, 2011 1:09 pm

AHHHHhhhhhh, I see now. Very clever. :o
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Re: Vac Seal 101

Postby Nuts » Wed 21 Dec, 2011 1:49 pm

Thanks, yes, anything else about crap you need to know just ask :)

Worked on a few others this week but anyone else with vac seal ideas (yes, I have seen the metube kitten one thanks :roll: ) :
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Re: Vac Seal 101

Postby corvus » Wed 21 Dec, 2011 9:13 pm

Anyone Vac Sealed a bag of Salad mix leaves ??
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Re: Vac Seal 101

Postby Nuts » Thu 22 Dec, 2011 8:19 am

I think uncooked vegies gas off? Which starts them rotting?? One way permeable 'vegie bags' work well. We can use bubba spinach leaves for a week.
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Re: Vac Seal 101

Postby Nuts » Sun 22 Jan, 2012 3:00 pm

With first aid items not getting a lot of use packages break down. Tablets fair much better vac sealed. Bandages can be a little hard to get at once sealed but just leave some excess bag, once a hole is formed (with a stick or rock if needed) they are easy enough to open. I like these 100mm cohesive style bandages:

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Re: Vac Seal 101

Postby Miyata610 » Sun 22 Jan, 2012 8:06 pm

I have one of these vac pac bandages in my possession and I must say I am impressed. What a great idea. Keep them coming.

I'll have to go out and buy one of these machines now.
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Re: Vac Seal 101

Postby Mark F » Sun 22 Jan, 2012 8:33 pm

So if my logic is correct, after the first use the vacuum packing is pointless and the tp is open to any stray moisture unless you carry a sealer unit. From the second photo there is now a wick to drag in any moisture. I just keep mine in a ziplock bag with a small bottle of hand sanitizer which fits nicely inside the tube - always water resistant, use after use. Doing this to first aid gear makes far more sense.
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Re: Vac Seal 101

Postby South_Aussie_Hiker » Sun 22 Jan, 2012 8:39 pm

After sucking the air out, why don't you pump it full of helium before sealing? That'll take at least another 5 grams off your back!

Might make your farts slightly higher pitched, though :mrgreen:
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Re: Vac Seal 101

Postby Nuts » Sun 22 Jan, 2012 8:58 pm

Miyata610 wrote:I have one of these vac pac bandages in my possession
do you? can i have it back :D

As I said perhaps only useful to some, with a large group this is the carried spare Mark. Obviously, if you squeeze the roll the paper snaps at the roll so no 'wick' they are easy enough to fold and stow ./c rubber band, acces thru the small slit and they stay flat. I carry a few a/b towels and few drops of bio soap seperately but not liquid sanitiser. Not taking the toilet roll bag near communal toilets is a good idea. Personally I also never touch anything (handles, lids, taps) directly. Again, maybe not so necessary when its for one and their personal bush crapping. For solo bush crapping (and my 'schedule') Corvus's nose pack might be the go?

personally, i'm a 2/3 x weekly bloke anyhow (for the purpose of explaination)

Yes, lets see more vac sealing ideas !

I've been thinking of other ways to do the kindle and been eyeing the spot beacon :)
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Re: Vac Seal 101

Postby matagi » Sun 22 Jan, 2012 9:11 pm

Nuts wrote:
Miyata610 wrote:I have one of these vac pac bandages in my possession
do you? can i have it back :D


Too late! He's licked it! :P
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Vac Seal 101

Postby oyster_07 » Sun 22 Jan, 2012 9:18 pm

Forget vacuum sealing everything.

Pump it full of helium and save weight by adding more!

Or, for safety, pump full of hydrogen: it will start a short fire but it will certainly attract attention from any nearby helicopter.
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Re: Vac Seal 101

Postby icemancometh » Sun 22 Jan, 2012 10:01 pm

small dry bag

and no roll, pre torn squares to cut down weight and come on you don't need that much out there
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Re: Vac Seal 101

Postby Nuts » Sun 22 Jan, 2012 10:25 pm

hey yer, a handful of leaves or ferns does me. thats not a vac seal toilet roll though..

the vac sealers come with a tube option, extending the idea im sure a pack liner and its contents could be done each morning
gas injection has its merits, id imagine a pack so big it would get stuck, maybe a helicopter shaped ballon?
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