Thu 12 May, 2016 7:35 pm
Hermione wrote:I suppose it's a light weight option compared with all my coffee making paraphernalia, but somehow getting up on a cold morning and munching a couple of coffee beans doesn't have the same appeal as a hot drink.
Fri 13 May, 2016 2:30 am
ribuck wrote:How about starting with hot porridge and finishing off by munching half a dozen coffee beans coated in dark chocolate. The dark chocolate seals them from the air and keeps them fresh after roasting. Six gives me enough of a caffeine buzz to carry me through the first hour of walking.
Fri 13 May, 2016 5:35 am
Orion wrote:First off, porridge has absolutely nothing to do with drinking coffee.
Fri 13 May, 2016 1:45 pm
ribuck wrote:Orion wrote:First off, porridge has absolutely nothing to do with drinking coffee.
The porridge reference was in reply to the post above it, which lamented that a coffee-free breakfast was too cold.
Thanks for your suggestion of snorting coffee - that sounds like it has potential.
Sat 14 May, 2016 1:55 am
Hermione wrote:...I don't [think] one achieves quite the same extraction from chewing beans.
Sat 14 May, 2016 9:40 am
Orion wrote:Hermione wrote:...I don't [think] one achieves quite the same extraction from chewing beans.
Optimal extraction is around 20% whereas chewing the beans is 100% extraction. That includes a lot of cellulose, which (like oats) makes for good horse food. The fraction that goes into solution in your mouth is likely pretty low. But since it's mixed with mediocre chocolate and burned cellulose it hardly matters.
Sat 14 May, 2016 3:45 pm
Hermione wrote:100% would be over extracted, I'm talking about getting the balance of flavours right (something I still struggle with in the bush).
Sat 14 May, 2016 3:55 pm
Orion wrote:Lick all of the chocolate off of a couple hundred beans, dry them out, then grind and brew a cup.
Sat 14 May, 2016 4:34 pm
Sat 14 May, 2016 9:58 pm
davidf wrote:Drink tea.
Sat 14 May, 2016 10:31 pm
Mark F wrote:Orion wrote:Lick all of the chocolate off of a couple hundred beans, dry them out, then grind and brew a cup.
Could be fantastic like Kopi luwak or civet coffee.
Sun 15 May, 2016 7:23 pm
Mon 16 May, 2016 2:55 pm
Orion wrote:Hermione wrote:100% would be over extracted, I'm talking about getting the balance of flavours right (something I still struggle with in the bush).
I was kind of joking with that. I mean, technically, you're consuming all of it so it's 100%. But in terms of flavor the fraction that dissolves in your saliva as you chew the beans wouldn't be very high. The temperature, time and "grind" all point to serious underextraction.
But in this context, who cares? Are the beans in those candies even worth thinking about in terms of brewing? They aren't going to be coating high quality freshly roasted SO coffee with dime store chocolate and then selling it for less per kg than commodity coffee costs.
Try this experiment. Lick all of the chocolate off of a couple hundred beans, dry them out, then grind and brew a cup. Serve it to some unsuspecting person and observe their reaction. Then tell them how you made the cup and observe their second reaction.
Mon 16 May, 2016 7:17 pm
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Fri 27 May, 2016 12:14 am
flippant wrote:While freshly ground coffee is better in theory, most hand grinders anyone would feasibly take with them fall short of their electric counterparts for a variety of reasons, so in compromising I choose grind quality and convenience over freshly ground (and for the grind levels you'll be using for these two brew methods, even 24 hours isn't a big deal).
Fri 27 May, 2016 10:17 am
Fri 27 May, 2016 3:12 pm
Orion wrote:And it's more than just theory that freshly ground coffee is superior to pre-ground. Even a relatively coarse grind loses a lot in a day. I must admit I've never tried vacuum packing or using an inert gas though. The porcelain burrs in those lightweight grinders don't produce an acceptable coarse grind, at least not without a lot of careful modification. But for finer grinding they do a decent job. And an Aeropress is fairly forgiving of uneven grinds.
Sun 29 May, 2016 12:37 pm
Orion wrote:Is it usually nice and sunny and warm like in that photo? I make my coffee for breakfast. It's morning, it's often early and it can be kind of cold out. Drip methods, long uninsulated steeps or slow open filtering all lead to the same problem: cold coffee. That's one of the reasons I use an Aeropress and a relatively fine grind. The steep time required is minimal. It's basically just fill, stir and press. One minute maximum. Then "pop" out the puck and filter into a bag for carryout. The Aeropress doesn't require much in the way of cleaning as it squeegies itself when you press.
The porcelain burrs in those lightweight grinders don't produce an acceptable coarse grind, at least not without a lot of careful modification. But for finer grinding they do a decent job. And an Aeropress is fairly forgiving of uneven grinds.
Tue 31 May, 2016 10:41 am
flippant wrote:I invite you to perform a blind cupping of coffees ground at various times. Depending on how fresh the beans are and what sort of flavour profile they have, you might very well prefer coffee that has been ground quite a bit in advance! It's very interesting!
flippant wrote:...your mileage may vary.
Tue 31 May, 2016 10:47 am
blakey_ wrote:Over the course of that trip the mornings varied from sunny and nice to windy, raining and icy. Yes it cools faster, but for this trip the volume of the dripper was more important than a few degrees warmer coffee and losing bag space for the aeropress (and an insulated mug, and a grinder and...). Sometimes I pack the dripper, sometimes the aeropress, sometimes teabags. horses for courses.
blakey_ wrote:I agree that pretty much every hand grinder has poor particle size distribution as delivered.
blakey_ wrote:excepting instant.
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