Thu 16 Nov, 2017 3:05 pm
Thu 16 Nov, 2017 6:48 pm
Thu 16 Nov, 2017 6:59 pm
Thu 16 Nov, 2017 7:07 pm
Thu 16 Nov, 2017 9:56 pm
L_Cham_67 wrote:-You refer to the 64s, except I have a 64. I assume the process remains the same?
-While I can go buy a microSD card with no problem, can the maps hypothetically be installed onto the GPS itself?
-What are the contour lines like on OSM and andrewp's premade maps?
Thu 16 Nov, 2017 11:25 pm
Thu 16 Nov, 2017 11:42 pm
L_Cham_67 wrote:Thanks again for the responses! One final thing which I just thought of then: what program is best to upload the tracks onto a PC? (ie something like Garmin Basecamp)
Fri 17 Nov, 2017 9:19 am
Fri 17 Nov, 2017 10:25 am
L_Cham_67 wrote:I suppose a very crude way would be to upload it to something like mygpsfiles and then just screenshot it and keep a folder of them.
Sun 03 Dec, 2017 12:36 pm
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Sun 03 Dec, 2017 5:03 pm
Sun 03 Dec, 2017 6:48 pm
Species 8472 wrote:I called Garmin Australia and the customer rep was as surprised as I was that no tracks existed. The Tas map has all the topo features and looks great but not a single track.Garmin offered an immediate refund and forwarded the anomaly to their tech people.
Sun 03 Dec, 2017 9:57 pm
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Wed 15 Aug, 2018 9:01 pm
Alternative Maps for Garmin Devices
[/quote]I've done a hell of a lot of research since originally starting the post and have figured out how to make some great maps for Garmin devices. Field tested and works great.
Basically, there are a few ways to get better maps on the device. You have the OSM maps that others have compiled which are great due to the vector nature and you can get routable maps which I guess is sort of handy sometimes.
But if you want really detailed maps I've only come across 2 methods.
METHOD 1
1. Download or scan in you map source as JPEG. For example, for NSW maps you can get the digital topo maps for free at https://maps.six.nsw.gov.au/etopo.html
Then open pdf map in photoshop or editing program and crop out the map margins. Join multiple cropped maps in another photoshop file to cover a larger area. Save as JPEG. I found using the unsharp mask makes it much easier to read.
2. Overlay JPEG in google earth. You can use this http://www.gelib.com/worldwide-utm-grid.htm to help align the map. Plenty of tutorials online to do this. Save overlayed image as KMZ.
3. That KMZ file won't work on the device because the Jpeg is too big. So you need to use the G-Raster software. Import the KMZ into G-Raster and save it for Garmin. Get it here http://moagu.com/?page_id=155 It does cost but its cheap enough.
4. Copy the exported file to the custom maps folder of your Garmin device.
METHOD 2 (Much easier)
1. You need this software called MAPC2MAPC. You can download it as a trial it just overlays red crosses everywhere but you can try it out before you buy it. http://www.the-thorns.org.uk/mapping/
Still much cheaper than the Garmin Topo though. But this program is gold and support is awesome.
2. Use the 'work with online sources' > Edit the list of Map sources and here you can add the tile server of the map source.
For Example for NSW Six maps
https://maps.six.nsw.gov.au/arcgis/rest ... /MapServer you add it in as this:
NSW|https://maps.six.nsw.gov.au/arcgis/rest/services/public/NSW_Topo_Map/MapServer/tile/{z}/{y}/{x}
I don't understand what how you figure that out but send the developer the link of the tile server and he can help you out.
3. In the 'work with online map sources' you can define the area with coords. Use google earth to find the coords you need (NW & SE corners).
Then choose map source and Map zoom.
4. Once loaded you can optimise the map by sharpening and contrast. Experiment to how you like it.
Then you can save it as KMZ that works on Garmin devices without needing G-raster.
5. Copy the exported file to the custom maps folder of your Garmin device.
MAPC2MAPC also can load any jpeg map and calibrate it. Great software! The Developer also responds pretty quick support is great.
Few issues I'm still trying to figure out are:
1. Garmin 64s gives me a warning on startup that I've exceeded the tile limit. I've got 5 custom maps of a rather large size and only 3 show at a time. Kinda annoying.
2. Maps are a little on the laggy side when zooming in and out but honestly, it isn't going to hinder its functionality. The level of detail is awesome.
I found I still need the OSM maps as a general map but use the custom maps for the location I need in specific.
The Instructions are rather general but you should be able to fill in the blanks with a bit of googling. Let me know if I didn't explain anything enough. Hope this helps.
I'm hoping to experiment and learn a bit more about making maps but been too busy. Will post if I learn more.
Wed 15 Aug, 2018 10:13 pm
englishmanbo wrote:So far no luck with OSM-pCloud (no mountable file)
Wed 15 Aug, 2018 10:42 pm
Wed 15 Aug, 2018 10:54 pm
englishmanbo wrote: So far no luck with OSM-pCloud (no mountable file)
keithy wrote:These IMG maps can just be copied directly to the Garmin's internal memory, or copied to the SD card. Make sure they are copied to the \Garmin directory and you're good to go.
Both the OSM and original Garmin maps can live on the Garmin GPS simultaneously, but when you pick between them, to avoid maps overwriting each other on the display, go to Map Setup, and Enable/Disable only one at a time (eg. Enable the OSM map, and Disable the Garmin map or vice versa)
Thu 16 Aug, 2018 8:31 am
Thu 16 Aug, 2018 5:37 pm
Huntsman247 wrote:I've got the 64s. I've bought the Australian topo map that Garmin makes. It's really detailed as regards watercourses but tbh I'm not too fussed. I prefer osm maps over it. Yet in the field I'll still prefer to use maps that I've made out of pdf topos. The detail is unbeatable. The Garmin topo leaves alot of guess work when it comes to cliffs.
If anyone's interested I can post some screenshots of the differences between maps.
Thu 16 Aug, 2018 6:26 pm
Thu 16 Aug, 2018 7:19 pm
englishmanbo wrote:Warin, thanks for the reply.
ADD:
I understand that if I just load directly into the GPS SD card it would be simpler, however I want to work in basecamp or similar planning software on my mac. The process to make my own maps looks like it will take a long time the first time I do it. To download other peoples maps into basecamp has not worked readily or the detail was inadequate, will take some troubleshooting. OSM + Topo gmap file is not recognised by basecamp (I read it should be) which wants a GPX file.
Thu 16 Aug, 2018 8:55 pm
englishmanbo wrote:however I want to work in basecamp or similar planning software on my mac.
Thu 16 Aug, 2018 10:14 pm
Fri 17 Aug, 2018 9:19 pm
peregrinator wrote:Huntsman247 wrote:I've got the 64s. I've bought the Australian topo map that Garmin makes. It's really detailed as regards watercourses but tbh I'm not too fussed. I prefer osm maps over it. Yet in the field I'll still prefer to use maps that I've made out of pdf topos. The detail is unbeatable. The Garmin topo leaves alot of guess work when it comes to cliffs.
If anyone's interested I can post some screenshots of the differences between maps.
Huntsman, I'd be very interested to see that. I'm reasonably happy with OSM maps but 'd really like to know what $200 buys.
Sat 18 Aug, 2018 7:58 am
Sat 18 Aug, 2018 11:47 am
Huntsman247 wrote:Ok, I just picked a couple popular spots that have some interesting terrain.
I've taken the screenshots out of the Basecamp software to be able to display more map real estate. It basically appears exactly the same just obviously cropped to the display size.
Maps I've captured are:
1. Custom - NSW TOPO made using MAPC2MAPC. Made using instructions I compiled that englishmanbo quoted here already.
2. OSM - These are Andrewp's OSM maps (I believe of memory)
3. Garmin - AUS & NZ top v5
Mon 27 Aug, 2018 5:40 pm
Huntsman247 wrote:peregrinator wrote:Huntsman247 wrote:I've got the 64s. I've bought the Australian topo map that Garmin makes. It's really detailed as regards watercourses but tbh I'm not too fussed. I prefer osm maps over it. Yet in the field I'll still prefer to use maps that I've made out of pdf topos. The detail is unbeatable. The Garmin topo leaves alot of guess work when it comes to cliffs.
If anyone's interested I can post some screenshots of the differences between maps.
Huntsman, I'd be very interested to see that. I'm reasonably happy with OSM maps but 'd really like to know what $200 buys.
Ok, I just picked a couple popular spots that have some interesting terrain.
I've taken the screenshots out of the Basecamp software to be able to display more map real estate. It basically appears exactly the same just obviously cropped to the display size.
Maps I've captured are:
1. Custom - NSW TOPO made using MAPC2MAPC. Made using instructions I compiled that englishmanbo quoted here already.
2. OSM - These are Andrewp's OSM maps (I believe of memory)
3. Garmin - AUS & NZ top v5
Hope this helps.
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