Pack safe GPS camera Drone for Hikers

For all high tech electronic equipment including GPS, PLB, chargers, phones, computers, software. Discussion of simple electrical devices such as torches, belongs in the main 'Equipment' forum.

Pack safe GPS camera Drone for Hikers

Postby Zone-5 » Sat 15 Aug, 2015 3:48 pm

Pack safe GPS camera Drone for Hikers
...this post is not SPAM or intending to be!

Finally something small, tough and simple that just works! It can't be accidentally crashed and is fully self contained for simple inclusion in any pack size...



While the last video contains a plea for 'crowd funding' it was not my intention to promote this product in any way! But to allow you to see what could be available in the future for hikers in a very simple and rugged platform anyone can use!

If it ever gets into production it would be great have one of these in the GPS, PLB, SPOT and CAM pack pocket.

The ultimate selfie stick!

:mrgreen:
Last edited by Zone-5 on Sat 15 Aug, 2015 6:43 pm, edited 2 times in total.
... moved to another forum @ 10/10/2015
User avatar
Zone-5
Phyllocladus aspleniifolius
Phyllocladus aspleniifolius
 
Posts: 760
Joined: Sat 04 Jan, 2014 5:45 pm
Region: Australia

Re: Portable 3D Printed Drones for Hikers

Postby north-north-west » Sat 15 Aug, 2015 6:20 pm

Nice toy. But I'm struggling to think of a practical use for a bushwalker.
"Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens."
User avatar
north-north-west
Lagarostrobos franklinii
Lagarostrobos franklinii
 
Posts: 11390
Joined: Thu 14 May, 2009 7:36 pm
Location: The Asylum
ASSOCIATED ORGANISATIONS: Social Misfits Anonymous
Region: Tasmania

Re: Portable 3D Printed Drones for Hikers

Postby Lizzy » Sat 15 Aug, 2015 6:27 pm

Cool bushwalking home-movies
User avatar
Lizzy
Athrotaxis selaginoides
Athrotaxis selaginoides
 
Posts: 1044
Joined: Mon 16 Nov, 2009 1:13 pm
Region: New South Wales
Gender: Female

Re: Pack safe GPS Drone for Hikers

Postby Zone-5 » Sat 15 Aug, 2015 6:35 pm

I used to hang cameras off stunt kites when I was younger for visually stunning aerial views! 8)
... moved to another forum @ 10/10/2015
User avatar
Zone-5
Phyllocladus aspleniifolius
Phyllocladus aspleniifolius
 
Posts: 760
Joined: Sat 04 Jan, 2014 5:45 pm
Region: Australia

Re: Pack safe GPS camera Drone for Hikers

Postby north-north-west » Sat 15 Aug, 2015 6:55 pm

In other words I got it right first time: nice toy.
No way would I trust my camera to something like that.
"Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens."
User avatar
north-north-west
Lagarostrobos franklinii
Lagarostrobos franklinii
 
Posts: 11390
Joined: Thu 14 May, 2009 7:36 pm
Location: The Asylum
ASSOCIATED ORGANISATIONS: Social Misfits Anonymous
Region: Tasmania

Re: Pack safe GPS camera Drone for Hikers

Postby RonK » Sat 15 Aug, 2015 7:06 pm

A Lily Camera perhaps?...



Yeah, I get how I could use one...
User avatar
RonK
Phyllocladus aspleniifolius
Phyllocladus aspleniifolius
 
Posts: 839
Joined: Mon 31 Dec, 2012 10:33 am
Region: Queensland
Gender: Male

Re: Pack safe GPS camera Drone for Hikers

Postby horsecat » Mon 17 Aug, 2015 3:49 pm

Been eying off the Lily for some time now. Shame it's not due for release for a while yet though
horsecat
Athrotaxis cupressoides
Athrotaxis cupressoides
 
Posts: 470
Joined: Wed 05 Jun, 2013 3:42 pm
Location: Flitch of Bacon
Region: Tasmania
Gender: Male

Re: Pack safe GPS camera Drone for Hikers

Postby Zone-5 » Mon 17 Aug, 2015 4:04 pm

north-north-west wrote:In other words I got it right first time: nice toy.


I really like the promo video of the Lily! Amazing movie potential there...

WATERPROOF == WOW!

:o
... moved to another forum @ 10/10/2015
User avatar
Zone-5
Phyllocladus aspleniifolius
Phyllocladus aspleniifolius
 
Posts: 760
Joined: Sat 04 Jan, 2014 5:45 pm
Region: Australia

Re: Portable 3D Printed Drones for Hikers

Postby GPSGuided » Mon 17 Aug, 2015 5:01 pm

north-north-west wrote:Nice toy. But I'm struggling to think of a practical use for a bushwalker.

Think what Dan could have done with his recent OLT video series! There'll be lovely overhead aerial shots and I can also imagine the many crash-into-a-tree-branch scenes as the drone followed Dan along the track. :mrgreen:
Just move it!
User avatar
GPSGuided
Lagarostrobos franklinii
Lagarostrobos franklinii
 
Posts: 6801
Joined: Mon 13 May, 2013 2:37 pm
Location: Sydney
Region: New South Wales

Re: Portable 3D Printed Drones for Hikers

Postby Zone-5 » Mon 17 Aug, 2015 6:26 pm

GPSGuided wrote:...I can also imagine the many crash-into-a-tree-branch scenes as the drone followed Dan along the track. :mrgreen:


Like this? :lol:

Image
... moved to another forum @ 10/10/2015
User avatar
Zone-5
Phyllocladus aspleniifolius
Phyllocladus aspleniifolius
 
Posts: 760
Joined: Sat 04 Jan, 2014 5:45 pm
Region: Australia

Re: Portable 3D Printed Drones for Hikers

Postby wildlight » Mon 09 Nov, 2015 9:43 am

Zone-5 wrote:
Like this? :lol:

Image


That looks "plane" fake to me…

cheers
WildLight
wildlight
Athrotaxis cupressoides
Athrotaxis cupressoides
 
Posts: 214
Joined: Tue 24 Mar, 2009 2:03 pm

Re: Pack safe GPS camera Drone for Hikers

Postby Mark F » Mon 09 Nov, 2015 3:49 pm

Zone-5 wrote:There'll be lovely overhead aerial shots and I can also imagine the many crash-into-a-tree-branch scenes as the drone followed Dan along the track.

Shots of the drone or Dan crashing into trees?
"Perfection is attained not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing more to remove".
User avatar
Mark F
Lagarostrobos franklinii
Lagarostrobos franklinii
 
Posts: 2021
Joined: Mon 19 Sep, 2011 8:14 pm
Region: Australian Capital Territory
Gender: Male

Re: Pack safe GPS camera Drone for Hikers

Postby keithy » Tue 10 Nov, 2015 9:42 pm

Back on topic, I recently read about this:

A researcher from MIT’s Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Lab (CSAIL) has developed an obstacle-detection system that allows a drone to autonomously dip, dart and dive through a tree-filled field at upwards of 30 miles per hour.

https://www.csail.mit.edu/drone_flies_t ... _at_30_mph

This is quite neat, as it does not use LIDAR or a Kinect camera that would take up weight and use more battery, but uses a stereo set of camera phone cameras and an algorithm that detects the world a few metres ahead.

The Lily camera is quite cool, and would be perfect for video shots where there are no obstacles, but incorporating this sort of tech into it would be even more awesome as it adds collision avoidance without adding substantial weight.
User avatar
keithy
Phyllocladus aspleniifolius
Phyllocladus aspleniifolius
 
Posts: 634
Joined: Tue 28 Oct, 2014 5:31 pm
Region: Other Country
Gender: Male

Re: Pack safe GPS camera Drone for Hikers

Postby RonK » Wed 11 Nov, 2015 6:22 pm

A Lily would probably have captured some great footage if I had one to use on my recent cycle tour in New Zealand.

Image a landscape like this captured from the air. Doarama - New Zealand: Flock Hill Station to Arthur's Pass
User avatar
RonK
Phyllocladus aspleniifolius
Phyllocladus aspleniifolius
 
Posts: 839
Joined: Mon 31 Dec, 2012 10:33 am
Region: Queensland
Gender: Male

Re: Pack safe GPS camera Drone for Hikers

Postby GPSGuided » Fri 26 Jan, 2018 2:47 pm

How drone technology moves! DJI Spark (out for 9 mths already) is under 300g and has hand gesture control. Whilst they are easier to fly with better image quality, the restrictions on drones have increased too. Out in the community, it’s becoming a divisive issue with some haters. Oh well.

https://www.dji.com/spark


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro
Just move it!
User avatar
GPSGuided
Lagarostrobos franklinii
Lagarostrobos franklinii
 
Posts: 6801
Joined: Mon 13 May, 2013 2:37 pm
Location: Sydney
Region: New South Wales

Re: Pack safe GPS camera Drone for Hikers

Postby RonK » Fri 26 Jan, 2018 5:27 pm

GPSGuided wrote:How drone technology moves! DJI Spark (out for 9 mths already) is under 300g and has hand gesture control.

The DJI Spark is redundant since the Mavic Air was released this week.
User avatar
RonK
Phyllocladus aspleniifolius
Phyllocladus aspleniifolius
 
Posts: 839
Joined: Mon 31 Dec, 2012 10:33 am
Region: Queensland
Gender: Male

Re: Pack safe GPS camera Drone for Hikers

Postby GPSGuided » Fri 26 Jan, 2018 9:05 pm

Well, Mavic Air is heavier and pricier. When pulled apart, the Spark is still small and lighter and does a good enough job. Irrespective, without permission to fly in NPs, these drones have lost some value in our recreation pursuit. Still, the tech advancement is impressive. M Air is around 450g, right?
Just move it!
User avatar
GPSGuided
Lagarostrobos franklinii
Lagarostrobos franklinii
 
Posts: 6801
Joined: Mon 13 May, 2013 2:37 pm
Location: Sydney
Region: New South Wales

Re: Pack safe GPS camera Drone for Hikers

Postby nezumi » Sat 27 Jan, 2018 8:48 am

The main thing for me is that Mavic Air is foldable, making for safer and easier transportation. It also has a longer flight time, although with the weight difference, this could be matched by taking an extra battery for the Spark.
nezumi
Atherosperma moschatum
Atherosperma moschatum
 
Posts: 53
Joined: Mon 04 Jul, 2016 10:25 pm
Region: Victoria

Re: Pack safe GPS camera Drone for Hikers

Postby GPSGuided » Sat 27 Jan, 2018 10:27 am

Realistic problem now is where can a drone be used in our pursuit?
Just move it!
User avatar
GPSGuided
Lagarostrobos franklinii
Lagarostrobos franklinii
 
Posts: 6801
Joined: Mon 13 May, 2013 2:37 pm
Location: Sydney
Region: New South Wales

Re: Pack safe GPS camera Drone for Hikers

Postby andrewa » Sat 27 Jan, 2018 6:14 pm

If you take the propeller guards off the spark, it actually is v compact - I was fishing in Tassie 2 weeks ago, and just tucked it under my wader shoulder strap. Thinking of attaching some Velcro to it and my shirt so it can just be “stuck on”. Whilst the Spark has shorter flying time, the batteries are lighter @70-80g. I’m taking it to NZ in a few weeks - but drone, 3 batteries, charger, power pack etc all add up in weight!
andrewa
Athrotaxis selaginoides
Athrotaxis selaginoides
 
Posts: 1210
Joined: Sat 05 Mar, 2011 5:55 pm
ASSOCIATED ORGANISATIONS: None
Region: Victoria
Gender: Male

Re: Pack safe GPS camera Drone for Hikers

Postby GPSGuided » Sun 28 Jan, 2018 2:57 pm

Agree. With the propellers off (no real need for the guards), the Spark is very tough and easily packed away. Its rigid arms are strong enough to take abuses, probably significantly less so for those with folding arms. The full kit still adds volume and weight that I agree. Despite Mavic Air being out, I think the Spark is still a viable choice for many.
Just move it!
User avatar
GPSGuided
Lagarostrobos franklinii
Lagarostrobos franklinii
 
Posts: 6801
Joined: Mon 13 May, 2013 2:37 pm
Location: Sydney
Region: New South Wales

Re: Pack safe GPS camera Drone for Hikers

Postby potato » Mon 29 Jan, 2018 1:24 pm

I have a Mavic Pro - it is extremely capable and folds into my small 12ltr daypack with ease.

I'm finding though that most parks prohibit the use of drones in parks or are allowing them on a case-by-case basis such as:

http://www.environment.nsw.gov.au/topic ... s-in-parks

I think Tas has a similar policy. So best to check before you head out.
potato
Athrotaxis cupressoides
Athrotaxis cupressoides
 
Posts: 192
Joined: Thu 28 Jan, 2016 1:06 pm
Region: Australian Capital Territory
Gender: Male

Re: Pack safe GPS camera Drone for Hikers

Postby andrewa » Mon 29 Jan, 2018 8:21 pm

Yes. Regulations are an issue.

Fortunately most of my planned drone flying is for footage of remote stuff, so, even if it is in a NP, there is not going to be anyone around to complain! I think Mt Bogong in winter will be the most difficult one....

A
andrewa
Athrotaxis selaginoides
Athrotaxis selaginoides
 
Posts: 1210
Joined: Sat 05 Mar, 2011 5:55 pm
ASSOCIATED ORGANISATIONS: None
Region: Victoria
Gender: Male

Re: Pack safe GPS camera Drone for Hikers

Postby north-north-west » Tue 06 Feb, 2018 7:35 am

andrewa wrote:Y I think Mt Bogong in winter will be the most difficult one....


Do drones have the same issues as proper aircraft, ie icing of propeller blades and the like?
"Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens."
User avatar
north-north-west
Lagarostrobos franklinii
Lagarostrobos franklinii
 
Posts: 11390
Joined: Thu 14 May, 2009 7:36 pm
Location: The Asylum
ASSOCIATED ORGANISATIONS: Social Misfits Anonymous
Region: Tasmania

Re: Pack safe GPS camera Drone for Hikers

Postby tastrax » Tue 06 Feb, 2018 9:35 am

It appears they do if they fly into cloud at low temperatures. Question is, should they be flying in clouds?

https://forum.dji.com/thread-75264-1-1.html
Cheers - Phil

OSM Mapper
User avatar
tastrax
Athrotaxis selaginoides
Athrotaxis selaginoides
 
Posts: 1664
Joined: Fri 28 Mar, 2008 6:25 pm
Location: What3words - epic.constable.downplayed
ASSOCIATED ORGANISATIONS: RETIRED! - Parks and Wildlife Service
Region: Tasmania

Re: Pack safe GPS camera Drone for Hikers

Postby GPSGuided » Tue 06 Feb, 2018 10:26 am

tastrax wrote:It appears they do if they fly into cloud at low temperatures. Question is, should they be flying in clouds?

For operators operating under the recreational category, visual line-of-sight is required at all times. So no, in cloud flying where the drone disappears from sight is not permitted, only within visibility limit.

As for icing at altitude, this is not quite the same as aircraft icing relates to their wings (leading edge), thereby reducing wing lift and subsequent loss of control and crash. Drones are more like helicopters, have no wings but just propellers for lift. When things get cold enough, I suspect the drone battery will die out first before any ice may form on their spinning propellers. So not a practical concern.
Just move it!
User avatar
GPSGuided
Lagarostrobos franklinii
Lagarostrobos franklinii
 
Posts: 6801
Joined: Mon 13 May, 2013 2:37 pm
Location: Sydney
Region: New South Wales


Return to Techno-Babble

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests