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Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 III

Postby GPSGuided » Fri 16 May, 2014 4:44 pm

It's out! 24-70mm f1.8-2.8 lens, built-in 3 stops ND filter, built-in EFV, adds 9g in weight.

http://www.dpreview.com/previews/sony-c ... f=features

Ouch... US$799 RRP.
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Re: Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 III

Postby photohiker » Fri 16 May, 2014 5:19 pm

Oh c'mon!

I haven't worn out the Mk I yet!
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Re: Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 III

Postby Tortoise » Fri 16 May, 2014 6:41 pm

GPSGuided wrote:It's out! 24-70mm f1.8-2.8 lens, built-in 3 stops ND filter, built-in EFV, adds 9g in weight.

http://www.dpreview.com/previews/sony-c ... f=features

Ouch... US$799 RRP.

If anyone is thinking of selling their DSC-RX100ii to buy the iii, it's possible I might be interested...
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Re: Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 III

Postby Bubbalouie » Fri 16 May, 2014 7:13 pm

My original RX-100 isn't even 12 months old :(
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Re: Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 III

Postby GPSGuided » Fri 16 May, 2014 7:18 pm

How do people feel about the 70mm on the long end?
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Re: Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 III

Postby Giddy_up » Fri 16 May, 2014 7:19 pm

My RX 100 II takes some sweet pics and I couldn't be happier. Plus I can't bring myself to carry another 9 grams ;)
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Re: Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 III

Postby Tortoise » Fri 16 May, 2014 7:22 pm

:lol:
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Re: Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 III

Postby RonK » Fri 16 May, 2014 10:04 pm

GPSGuided wrote:How do people feel about the 70mm on the long end?

Happy to trade for more width and speed - rarely use that end of the focal range anyway. And a pop-up electronic viewfinder? Makes it worth the price to upgrade in my book.

Jeez, I'll have a retired LX3 and RX100 at this rate
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Re: Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 III

Postby icefest » Sat 17 May, 2014 12:25 am

With the a7R and this Sony really have the market cornered. The only niche that they haven't got covered that well is the waterproof shockproof area.
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Re: Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 III

Postby GPSGuided » Sat 17 May, 2014 12:32 am

Not sure about that. They are pretty dear and lots of consumers still choosing various brands and models out there.
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Re: Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 III

Postby wayno » Sat 17 May, 2014 5:47 am

wait for the sample images. i doubt they'll be that much better than earlier models.. theres some good deals on those models as well...
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Re: Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 III

Postby wayno » Sat 17 May, 2014 9:07 am

most popular selling camera on amazon

http://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Elec ... 09924011_1
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Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 III

Postby GPSGuided » Sat 17 May, 2014 9:40 am

I note the RX100 II is in position 29 and have been in the top 100 for a while. Given how new the Mk III model is, Mk II position position is probably more indicative. Also note, not indicative of market share.
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Re: Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 III

Postby wayno » Sat 17 May, 2014 9:48 am

good price on the original model....
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-DSC-RX100-Se ... B00889ST2G
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Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 III

Postby RonK » Sat 17 May, 2014 10:12 am

wayno wrote:good price on the original model....
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-DSC-RX100-Se ... B00889ST2G

Bah - that's more than I paid two years ago.

And much ($100) more than the current price from Kogan.
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Re: Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 III

Postby GPSGuided » Sat 17 May, 2014 10:23 am

As a super ceded model, I suspect there'll be better hunting soon.
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Re: Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 III

Postby Giddy_up » Sat 17 May, 2014 10:26 am

These cameras are not loosing their value because they just take fantastic pictures for the market segment they are in, don't hold your breath for one selling at half price as i don't think it will happen.
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Re: Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 III

Postby GPSGuided » Sat 17 May, 2014 10:37 am

It's not a finite resource in a constantly moving tech market place, normal process is inevitable.
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Re: Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 III

Postby Giddy_up » Sat 17 May, 2014 10:41 am

GPSGuided wrote:It's not a finite resource in a constantly moving tech market place, normal process is inevitable.


I'll check back in 6 months and see how your oxygen supply is holding out.
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Re: Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 III

Postby RonK » Sat 17 May, 2014 10:54 am

Giddy_up wrote:These cameras are not loosing their value because they just take fantastic pictures for the market segment they are in, don't hold your breath for one selling at half price as i don't think it will happen.

The Mark I was always cheaper than the Mark II (and now Mark III) anyway, so the price hasn't really dropped much, but dig around and if willing buy without local warranty and you'll find even lower prices.
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Re: Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 III

Postby wayno » Sat 17 May, 2014 10:56 am

Giddy_up wrote:These cameras are not loosing their value because they just take fantastic pictures for the market segment they are in, don't hold your breath for one selling at half price as i don't think it will happen.


yup. the original model is still a very good camera compared to the latest model... still essentially the same camera with a few tweaks and bells and whistles to it.... i just couldnt believe the photos that came out of my RX100 for such a small camera, i dont think theres any other compact on the market with a zoom lens that can compare to it for picture quality..

the mark one started out at the price the mark three is at now... and so did the mark 2
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Re: Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 III

Postby Giddy_up » Sat 17 May, 2014 11:02 am

RonK wrote:
Giddy_up wrote:These cameras are not loosing their value because they just take fantastic pictures for the market segment they are in, don't hold your breath for one selling at half price as i don't think it will happen.

The Mark I was always cheaper than the Mark II (and now mark III) anyway, so the price hasn't really dropped much, but dig around and if willing buy without local warranty and you'll find even lower prices.


Yes RonK, both the respective models have a different price point. I scoured the net looking for deals and they were all a compromise in some way. Some had no warranty others had Japanese text on the user menu on the camera etc etc. Ended up with one from the US when I was last there, plus a heap of other gear that my wife questioned upon my return. I used the old need to know excuse, I needed it and I didn't know she needed to know. :lol: :lol:
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Re: Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 III

Postby GPSGuided » Sat 17 May, 2014 11:02 am

Giddy_up wrote:I'll check back in 6 months and see how your oxygen supply is holding out.

The heavier discounts will start in 3-4 months at the latest when Mk III supply becomes full. :wink:
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Re: Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 III

Postby wayno » Tue 27 May, 2014 4:21 am

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Re: Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 III

Postby Giddy_up » Tue 27 May, 2014 7:51 am

Good comparison wayno, I think I will keep my RX 100 II just the same.
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Re: Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 III

Postby wayno » Tue 27 May, 2014 7:54 am

Giddy_up wrote:Good comparison wayno, I think I will keep my RX 100 II just the same.



yes you and me both, main benefit looks to be for action photographers...
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Re: Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 III

Postby GPSGuided » Tue 27 May, 2014 8:31 am

The common marketing influenced comparison on the lens is not very helpful eg. F2.8 at 70-mm, compared to its predecessor's F4.9 at 100-mm. What the real question is, what is the effective aperture on the old lens at 70mm? It obviously won't be at f2.8, but it's no f4.9 either. f3.5-4 perhaps?
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Re: Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 III

Postby photohiker » Tue 27 May, 2014 11:13 am

GPSGuided wrote:The common marketing influenced comparison on the lens is not very helpful eg. F2.8 at 70-mm, compared to its predecessor's F4.9 at 100-mm. What the real question is, what is the effective aperture on the old lens at 70mm? It obviously won't be at f2.8, but it's no f4.9 either. f3.5-4 perhaps?


I just ran a test. Zoom of 2.5 gives a focal length of 69mm and a minimum f stop of f/4.0

So if the new version goes f/2.8 @ 70mm that's a worthwhile improvement.
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Re: Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 III

Postby GPSGuided » Tue 27 May, 2014 11:20 am

Thanks for testing it out there Michael. I agree it's a significant improvement at 1 stop and potentially other improvements to the lens IQ too. Just wasn't impressed by the way the specs were compared and presented. I like the 24mm field of the new model though...
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Re: Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 III

Postby wayno » Fri 30 May, 2014 8:05 am

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