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Cradle cable car

Thu 17 May, 2018 7:19 pm

https://www.examiner.com.au/story/54048 ... to-cradle/
Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull announced the federal government would complete the funding shortfall for the project at Dove Lake on Wednesday morning.

“I’m thrilled that we’re able to provide $30 million to support the construction of the cableway, which... is going to transform the tourism infrastructure here at this iconic location,” Mr Turnbull said.

The cableway will transport visitors from a new visitors centre to Dove Lake.

Re: Cradle cable car

Thu 17 May, 2018 8:01 pm

Is the installation of a cable car at the location a good thing when compared with existing vehicle transfer to Dove Lake? Isn't it of greater visual impact than a stream of vehicles at peak hours?

Re: Cradle cable car

Fri 18 May, 2018 4:18 am

Visual pollution isn't the only thing to be concerned about? There would be positives and negatives aplenty for each side of the debate.
Maybe we cull the population instead.

Re: Cradle cable car

Fri 18 May, 2018 8:37 am

Aardvark wrote:Visual pollution isn't the only thing to be concerned about? There would be positives and negatives aplenty for each side of the debate.
Maybe we cull the population instead.

It isn't the local population that is the problem - it's the number of visitors. Cradle is promoted so heavily, everyone wants to see it. If the island is going to promote it and benefit from the tourism, there needs to be suitable infrastructure to minimise the impact of that visitation.
it's a tricky balancing act.

Re: Cradle cable car

Fri 18 May, 2018 9:00 am

north-north-west wrote:
Aardvark wrote:Visual pollution isn't the only thing to be concerned about? There would be positives and negatives aplenty for each side of the debate.
Maybe we cull the population instead.

It isn't the local population that is the problem - it's the number of visitors. Cradle is promoted so heavily, everyone wants to see it. If the island is going to promote it and benefit from the tourism, there needs to be suitable infrastructure to minimise the impact of that visitation.
it's a tricky balancing act.


Agreed.

Seem Nick is saying sensible things about it:

Tasmanian Greens Senator Nick McKim said the cableway would privatise access to the area.


“Infrastructure inside Tasmania’s reserves should be publicly owned and funded, and in the public interest. The cableway meets neither of those tests,” Senator McKim said.


“This is $30 million to prop up a corporate business model, and turn wilderness areas into theme parks.”

Re: Cradle cable car

Fri 18 May, 2018 9:14 am

There's as much potential for any private solution to fleece the park service and the public... as could be the case with the existing shuttle operator.
The Greens are right to question everything, oppose any ingress. What else would we expect?


I'd add the term 'necessary' to their test. And include all new walking tracks (the real 'pointy end').

Re: Cradle cable car

Fri 18 May, 2018 10:08 am

I was referring to the world population.
It is one place i fear i will never visit. The sheer weight of numbers is unappealing. The types it attracts are unappealing.

Re: Cradle cable car

Fri 18 May, 2018 10:30 am

Aardvark wrote:I was referring to the world population.
It is one place i fear i will never visit. The sheer weight of numbers is unappealing. The types it attracts are unappealing.

If you can put up with the masses briefly, it's great once you get away from Dove. Crater Peak and the Horse Track, Lake Rodway and Scott Kilvert; plenty of options that get you away from the bogans. Even at Pencil Pine there's the Dove Canyon circuit and the timber track to Ronny Creek. Relatively few people on those.

Re: Cradle cable car

Fri 18 May, 2018 12:53 pm

Agree with nnw here. I recently started a 2 day walk in the area leaving dove lake at 630 am and didn't see a soul til I got back to kitchen hut the next day. It's all about timing.

Re: Cradle cable car

Fri 18 May, 2018 3:10 pm

Aardvark wrote:I was referring to the world population.
It is one place i fear i will never visit. The sheer weight of numbers is unappealing. The types it attracts are unappealing.


Any iconic National Park centre worldwide is the same. Walk more than 30 minutes from the carpark and you will lose 95% of the people, especially where there are hills involved.

Re: Cradle cable car

Fri 18 May, 2018 6:32 pm

The worry is that it will be the thin edge of the wedge. "We'll there making good money, so lets stick in another cable car here and we can make some money as well"
One off, it's a good idea to centralise a lot of tourist activity in one area but I think a lot people fear that longer term, wont be the case.

Re: Cradle cable car

Wed 23 May, 2018 11:33 am

The Cradle Mountain Master Plan as mentioned in the article can be found here: http://www.cradlecoast.com/cradle-mountain-master-plan

Re: Cradle cable car

Wed 23 May, 2018 5:04 pm

Where to start.....

I'm not sure who's set to profit from the Currant proposal, but Simon says it's the same old boys club, not the state. Bushwalkers have no Currantcy in this proposal whatsoever. There was a plan that the best viewing area in the visitor centre was to be for the public, but that plan has Currantly changed to benefit one private operator. What a Cur!

Sorry if I'm acting like so much dried fruit, I'm sure the cable car will be lovely.
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Re: Cradle cable car

Wed 23 May, 2018 5:33 pm

stepbystep wrote:Sorry if I'm acting like so much dried fruit...

I'm sure you have a good raisin.
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Re: Cradle cable car

Wed 23 May, 2018 5:45 pm

north-north-west wrote:
stepbystep wrote:Sorry if I'm acting like so much dried fruit...

I'm sure you a good raisin.

Grrr.. typical Tassie government/business dealings..I'm off to eat a prune and start a movement!

Re: Cradle cable car

Mon 02 Jul, 2018 5:01 pm

Why not, Cradle Mtn and the Overland track have already been steadily stuffed up by tissue dropping old farts with an overexagerated sense of entitlement. Helicopters flying up and down the valley, cigarette butts, rubbish and overseas visitors with no respect for the park, I have seen it gradually turn into a dump. My last visit was plagued by loud music and idiots and continually cleaning up other peoples rubbish. You are welcome to it people of Tasmania. Never again.
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