Fri 10 Jun, 2016 11:12 am
corvus wrote:How much did I pay and where is your proof ?
Fri 10 Jun, 2016 12:34 pm
photohiker wrote:Nuts wrote:Destructive criticism would be as entirely appropriate here as it would with any given proposal.
With respect, I completely disagree with this notion. The only useful criticism to use would be objective criticism.
Throwing rocks is not a solution.
Fri 10 Jun, 2016 2:32 pm
Nuts wrote: ... it's simply a commissioned submission document that should be seen as it would if from any member of the public/ entity ... A 'Foundation' in no way essentially qualified or necessarily authority. Destructive criticism would be as entirely appropriate here as it would with any given proposal.
It's contents seem well considered, well researched and well written. And i'm sure those involved are vastly qualified in their roles. I noticed a couple of baulking points but they are probably not even at issue depending on the chosen level of 'thinking positive'.
There are all sorts of minimal impact opportunities throughout the region that would cost far less, even if $ were the bottom line.
Fri 10 Jun, 2016 4:30 pm
Nuts wrote:Lophophaps wrote:The focus now seems to me to be to examine the report and check the detail, improve it, give constructive criticism. If it is accepted that the Tarkine needs protecting, then a track is, as NNW said, a small price to pay, and that’s the direction we should be heading in.
I'm curious how it's now hard bitten members of the bushwalking community using terminology such as that 'it's a small price to pay'.
Lot's of people seem to have made the seamless transformation to this being a given. 'The Tony Abbotts of this world'? then, yeah, away we go.
Fri 10 Jun, 2016 4:49 pm
Fri 10 Jun, 2016 7:37 pm
Nuts wrote:photohiker wrote:Nuts wrote:Destructive criticism would be as entirely appropriate here as it would with any given proposal.
With respect, I completely disagree with this notion. The only useful criticism to use would be objective criticism.
Throwing rocks is not a solution.
Pebbles p/h, last vestige of respect. I'm completely biased.
Fri 10 Jun, 2016 8:47 pm
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Sat 18 Jun, 2016 4:16 pm
stepbystep wrote:Proposal downloadable from here. Designed by Australia's premier track designer Martin Hawes in consultation with the likes of G. Dixon, R. Blakers and Bob. Nuts wasn't consulted...
Sat 18 Jun, 2016 7:14 pm
Mon 20 Jun, 2016 10:35 am
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Thu 23 Jun, 2016 5:23 pm
stepbystep wrote:Sometimes it's a matter of the heart...and that's all that matters, and that's ok too. This is what happens when beauty sees beauty, threatened. And responds to that...
I give you, Isabel Quigley. Enjoy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Mo8ZVHjHd0
Mon 22 Aug, 2016 6:35 pm
The Commonwealth has joined the Tasmanian Government's appeal against a ruling to keep four-wheel-drive tracks in the state's Arthur-Pieman Conservation Area closed.
The Federal Court ruling from March could have implications for how areas with Indigenous heritage values are managed across the country.
The court ruled the controversial tracks should remain closed after the Tasmania Aboriginal Centre (TAC) contested a State Government plan to allow drivers back into the area.
The ruling found reopening the tracks risked damage to areas of Indigenous significance, including middens.
Today, the Commonwealth and State governments appeared before the full bench of the Federal Court in Hobart to begin the appeal.
Sat 27 Aug, 2016 9:38 am
Wed 12 Oct, 2016 7:05 pm
The Commonwealth looks set to determine whether state plans to reopen four-wheel drive tracks in the Arthur-Pieman Conservation Area on Tasmania's west coast will go ahead.
The legal battle about the tracks was listed again on Wednesday and the Federal Court noted that the Tasmanian Government had undertaken to give notice to the Tasmanian Aboriginal Corporation (TAC) about any reopenings, or to refer its plans to reopen tracks to the Federal Environment Minister.
The State Government says the decision now allows it to plan to reopen tracks and follow appropriate procedures under federal legislation.
In the 2014 election, the Tasmanian Government promised it would reopen the tracks in the area, which had been closed by the Labor government due to concerns about Aboriginal site damage.
Court action followed this decision, after TAC sought an injunction.
TAC chief executive Heather Sculthorpe said the court's latest decision was a victory.
"It's a total win, because they thought they could get those tracks open by press release," she said.
"Not through having regard to federal legislation, not by talking to the Aboriginal communities about the possibilities, and this court case has confirmed that neither of those things is possible," she said.
Tasmanian Environment and Heritage Minister Matthew Groom also welcomed the outcome.
"The decision gives certainty to the processes that are required to be undertaken in relation to improving access in the Arthur-Pieman conservation area," he said.
"We welcome the decision by the Federal Court of Australia that will enable planning to commence on providing appropriate access for recreational use in the area."
Mr Groom said planning for the tracks would involve consultation with both Aboriginal communities and four-wheel drive groups.
He said the Government was committed to ensuring that any impact on Aboriginal heritage or any other matter of national environmental significance was referred to the Commonwealth for a determination under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act.
It is unclear when the Government will move to reopen tracks.
Wed 12 Oct, 2016 7:08 pm
The Federal Court has put a halt on the state government’s plan to immediately reopen four-wheel-drive tracks in the Tarkine.
The court on Wednesday said the government would have to either:
send plans to reopen four-wheel-drive tracks in the Tarkine to the federal Environment Minister for approval;
risk having the issue sent back before the Federal Court judge who originally found that the works would negatively impact Aboriginal heritage in the area;
or abandon plans to reopen the tracks
The decision follows an appeal by the government against a decision made by Justice Debra Mortimer federal court who ruled the move would negatively impact Aboriginal heritage in the area.
The state government in 2014 wanted to reopen tracks closed by the previous government to prevent Aboriginal sites being damaged.
The Tasmanian Aboriginal Centre sought an injunction on the plan shortly after.
The court in its new decision accepted undertakings from the state government that it would consider its planned actions for reopening the tracks and would either refer the proposal to the federal Environment Minister, or if referral was not deemed necessary, notify the Tasmanian Aboriginal Centre at least 30 days before works commenced.
It found that the works required to reopen the tracks were actions under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act and potential heritage impacts should be considered under the act.
The court remitted the matter to Justice Mortimer to “bring finality to the proceeding” though no timeframes had been set for a further hearing, given that the government may decide to refer the matter to the Federal Environment Minister Josh Frydenberg.
Environment Minister Matthew Groom said the government remained committed to reopening the tracks.
“The decision gives certainty to the processes that are required to be undertaken in relation to improving access in the Arthur-Pieman Conservation Area,” he said.
Tasmanian Aboriginal Centre chief executive Heather Sculthorpe said the state government had one last chance to redeem itself from “an enduring legacy of hypocrisy” by finding other areas for off-road vehicles.
“The state must now stop wasting even more taxpayers’ money and let go of its illegitimate proposal to open the tracks without regard to Aboriginal heritage or federal legislation,” she said.
Braddon Labor MHR Justine Keay said she had written to Mr Frydenberg about the issue following a meeting of various stakeholders in Smithton last month.
“I hope now the State Government can work with its federal counterparts to reopen tracks in the area,” Ms Keay said.
“I also encourage the federal minister to work with the state government to involve all relevant stakeholders in any future management arrangements for the area.”
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Mon 01 May, 2017 1:30 pm
ofuros wrote:Nice shots Dan.
Mon 01 May, 2017 6:13 pm
Wed 03 May, 2017 12:09 am
Hermione wrote:Is the first shot meant to remind me of the circle of Willis, or is that just because I worked in neurosurgery for years? If it is I like the symbolism, if not I guess that's just my overactive imagination.
Wed 03 May, 2017 8:00 am
stepbystep wrote:Hermione wrote:Is the first shot meant to remind me of the circle of Willis, or is that just because I worked in neurosurgery for years? If it is I like the symbolism, if not I guess that's just my overactive imagination.
Haha...I had to google that. I can see it....but alas no...just playing with reflections in a river....
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