Tasmania specific bushwalking discussion.
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Mon 08 Oct, 2018 9:14 pm
I just saw this on the Park's website.
https://www.parks.tas.gov.au/index.aspx?base=49517It looks like they are looking for ideas for the next great multi-day walk. I presume they will connect the third cape into the Three Capes Track before starting a new multi-day walk. I guess they just need to go through the ideas phase first so they have something ready to go by the time that track is completed.
Submissions will close at 11pm on 24 November 2018 (Australian Eastern Standard Time).
So who's got some ideas?
Tue 09 Oct, 2018 12:07 am
It may not necessarily meet the silly weather criteria???, but establishing a Trans Tarkine multiday walk along the lines of that already proposed by the Bob Brown Foundation would seem worthy. Weather would be largely irrelevant given much of it is in forest and not at altitude.
Tue 09 Oct, 2018 11:12 am
Here's mine:
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And the most seamless replacement for both the Tourism & Parks Directors (must be a great time to be a park ranger) :
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Tue 09 Oct, 2018 11:17 am
Tue 09 Oct, 2018 11:32 am
In the criteria to meet section it states that it must be...
" no longer than 4 days and three nights. "
That rules out the South Coast Track and the Trans Tarkine Track. Although I have suspected Johnstone wants to fly people into Little Deadmans and walk out from there...a coastal version of the TTT could work but ideally that would be 5 days 4 nights...
Tue 09 Oct, 2018 11:34 am
Oh dear. Wheelchair access on the plateau? What next?-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zy5rkw4SeP4
Tue 09 Oct, 2018 11:35 am
Other than that, I think it would be a fantastic walk.
Tue 09 Oct, 2018 11:52 am
Wed 10 Oct, 2018 7:58 pm
Nuts wrote:Here's mine:
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And the most seamless replacement for both the Tourism & Parks Directors (must be a great time to be a park ranger) :
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Haha, now c'mon Nuts, don't be nuts and throw the baby out with the bathwater !
Wed 10 Oct, 2018 8:38 pm
Flinders island ?
Thu 11 Oct, 2018 1:14 am
An island walk would be great, never been to Flinders Island but that would be a nice one. Off the top of my head I thought Walls of Jerusalem, but I prefer having it wild next to the overused Overland track. I think the obvious choice is the Tarkine. This region needs to be known so it can be better protected. They shouldn't overdo it though, IE not do what they did with the Three Capes... But they could improve the roads, create a real Tarkine national park, and provide us with a circuit showcasing what the region has to offer, mainly one of the last intact (mostly) temperate rainforests on Earth.
Thu 11 Oct, 2018 6:15 am
There's already a Flinders Island development:
..
Really.. how about letting us Tasmanians settle in to the mass change already given the brown thumb and not yet realised.
Sure, we can have these 3 Capes style
Wilderness Tollways behind every hill, within a term of government.. but given the lack of an urban mindset such progress will be easier as ideals die off.
Lot's could be done with a Tarkine NP, maybe a long walking track is a good idea, as opposed to a cute one.. but shameful joining in this process, with these people.
Thu 11 Oct, 2018 3:41 pm
Looking back at policy/ prospectus might help narrow down what this government has in mind:
Even though these places already all have approved (additional?) proposals ready, set to go (aside from Tarkine).
I'd assume they don't
really mean a boat trip from Strahan to Bathurst hbr.
I'd assume the revenue/usage figures are enhanced, use of the term 'additional', in this case, can only be speculative.
Maybe our park service can provide more insight on this (even if they are forced to consider no opinion other than how to get a proposal underway..) as part of their commitment to public consultation.
For instance, has a short-er list of options already been decided? Has there been consultation already with a commercial partner (ie. 'huts', what does this mean, public huts or commercial huts, huts with heating or heated spa? both?
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Thu 11 Oct, 2018 4:03 pm
Far South Future group out of Dover are proposing a walk from Ida Bay(train to Southport Lagoon) and around the coast to SE Cape. It's unwieldy as a walk proposal but doesn't create too many impacts on fragile landscapes, would have hop on/off options and be an all year weather option. Govt will dismiss it out of hand after that group kicked their *&%$#! out of Dover re woodchip export facility!
Thu 11 Oct, 2018 4:53 pm
I imagine many good (if misguided) submissions but doubt the result will be too imaginative.
hmm, maybe the options will be on sportsbet
Thu 11 Oct, 2018 5:37 pm
A crazy idea...but they could just spend it on essential infrastructure on already built stuff, where it's needed... #for *&^%$# sake
Thu 11 Oct, 2018 8:32 pm
stepbystep wrote:A crazy idea...but they could just spend it on essential infrastructure on already built stuff, where it's needed... #for *&^%$# sake
Not gonna happen. That would be seen as maintenance/improvement of existing stuff. And there is already a budget/allocation for that.
What they want is something new. Something they can put their name on, something for the election. I think that getting people away from the crowed existing stuff is a good idea. Unfortunately it will not work as the numbers of people will increase year by year, so any reduction caused by a new walk will soon vanish as numbers increase. It is like building a new highway ...great when it first gets put in .. then it too gets crowded. If it were not built then the over crowding of the existing stuff will deter people from coming, and that is gonna happen anyway.
Pessimist? Where pollies are concerned .. yes.
Thu 11 Oct, 2018 9:12 pm
Warin wrote:And there is already a budget/allocation for that.
Ha ha - you jest of course??
Fri 12 Oct, 2018 8:46 am
I've heard whispers of something around Henty but not seen any proposal.
Fri 12 Oct, 2018 9:24 am
tastrax wrote:Warin wrote:And there is already a budget/allocation for that.
Ha ha - you jest of course??
The Romans had no zero, we do. A budget of $0 is still a budget
Parks will have a budget, they may get to decide how it is divided up, some for maintenance etc. Or that decision my be out of their hands. If some event like a mud slide takes place then the budget may all be used up on that leaving nothing for what was planned/desired.
Fri 12 Oct, 2018 9:47 am
Someone on Bruny has been sharing (on Facebook) his idea of a N-S Bruny island walk including Cape Queen Elizabeth and The Slide Track, suggesting a 3-4 day walk. I don't dislike this idea compared to some of the others that I've seen proposed.
Fri 12 Oct, 2018 10:23 am
Sadly Exclusivity = $. There's still many spectacular parts of the WHA that can be accessed in 4 days.
A win in the short term. Yet some of the most popular / historically successful worldwide trails seem to rely on basic camp or shelter facilities in parks and link road crossings/ access service points, 'park villages'/accommodation, nearby towns. Boost regional economy. Lot's of options other than cutting swaths through wilderness and installing mini-villages.
This sounds idyllic. I'd imagine the public revenue would barely fund the ongoing maintenance? And, while it's good to see people having fun, it seems more for an interaction between walkers as walkers and their environs, does the support stop if other places aren't similarly developed?:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/destinat ... -not-cheapAs good as it may sound, transferring this, a mysterious 'lodge' and an inevitable string of private huts to eg... Walls of Jerusalem could only be a disaster, no matter how well hidden (has always felt a bit 'intrusive' just taking occasional camping groups there..)
Sat 13 Oct, 2018 10:04 am
I would have though something in the vicinity of Kelly Basin would be the standout option. With access both by land or water and a heap of colonial history it's a really interesting place with very a different environment to the other major multi-day walks in the state. It would also tie in perfectly with existing tourism ventures in the region - both cruises on the Gordon River and the West Coast Wilderness Railway.
Mon 15 Oct, 2018 10:20 pm
Fri 19 Oct, 2018 11:34 am
They need to also extend the terms. If the park service is now charged with hacking through our parks, possibly WHA, for no outstanding purpose other than
~providing access for the developments of commercial operators~
..then 'we' want to know what happened to the conservation element of their charge, what sort of contortions need to be made to relate this process to due care for our parks (and WHA). Do we need yet another level of reserve with yet another new service provider? A conservation dept. for places kept primarily for their own good/ the pinnacle of achievement in a civilised society, all that. No confidence in this emerging arrangement.
Submissions invited as to a) whether our park service takes part in this process (ie. unrestrained by the need for political gloss)?
(preferably- here's the info you'll need to make a decision; here are the facts/ economics/ constraints/ opinions of conservationists within the department etc.)
Fri 19 Oct, 2018 12:04 pm
A bit of insight into, what at the end of the day what is essentially, lip service to 'advisory' boards, management boards, input by 'friends of' groups.. consequences of dismissing either expert or enthusiast public input/opinion?
https://theconversation.com/green-light ... ice-104854
Sat 22 Dec, 2018 8:28 am
How hard would it be to connect up tracks between the Overland and Port Davey tracks so there's a semi-official north-south traverse from Penguin to Cockle Creek?
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