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Lake Bagging

Postby Miyata610 » Wed 02 May, 2012 2:21 pm

Does it exist?
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Re: Lake Bagging

Postby Maelgwn » Wed 02 May, 2012 3:02 pm

We should invent it. Take a packraft and go for a paddle around them.

But seriously, heaps of the lakes in tassie would require hours/days of bashing through obscure forest and scrub down some steep hillside to get to a lake that looks like the last one. Then you have to get out again.
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Re: Lake Bagging

Postby sthughes » Wed 02 May, 2012 3:05 pm

Maelgwn wrote:But seriously, heaps of the lakes in tassie would require hours/days of bashing through obscure forest and scrub down some steep hillside to get to a lake that looks like the last one. Then you have to get out again.

Same as peak bagging then, but inverted ? :wink:
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Re: Lake Bagging

Postby Miyata610 » Wed 02 May, 2012 3:09 pm

Maelgwn wrote:We should invent it. Take a packraft and go for a paddle around them.


I was thinking more along the lines of just going in for a dip to claim a point.
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Re: Lake Bagging

Postby Maelgwn » Wed 02 May, 2012 3:10 pm

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Maelgwn wrote:But seriously, heaps of the lakes in tassie would require hours/days of bashing through obscure forest and scrub down some steep hillside to get to a lake that looks like the last one. Then you have to get out again.

Same as peak bagging then, but inverted ? :wink:


Yeah but without the views :?
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Re: Lake Bagging

Postby sthughes » Wed 02 May, 2012 3:25 pm

Dunno, plenty of the Peak Baggers peaks have no view, at least a lake you can see the other side.
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Re: Lake Bagging

Postby Strider » Wed 02 May, 2012 3:38 pm

sthughes wrote:at least a lake you can see the other side.

That rules out Lake Taupo for this list!
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Re: Lake Bagging

Postby sthughes » Wed 02 May, 2012 3:53 pm

Strider wrote:
sthughes wrote:at least a lake you can see the other side.

That rules out Lake Taupo for this list!

Oops, keep forgetting this has become a national & international forum :(

I like the idea, I think there would be a lot more unvisited lakes than "peaks" around. Might spawn the invention/popularisation of floating tents too, which I often think would be ideal when flat ground is hard to find :wink:
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Re: Lake Bagging

Postby MrWalker » Wed 02 May, 2012 4:51 pm

I think I know how you can bag a peak, but how do you count lakes?
Do you have to walk all the way around it, swim in it, float on it or just dip your toe in?
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Re: Lake Bagging

Postby walkinTas » Wed 02 May, 2012 8:06 pm

I have thought about putting a list of lakes together, similar to the list of waterfalls, highest peaks and not-so-high peaks. Just been waiting for a volunteer to step forward. 8) If you go to Tasmanian Mountains you'll find a very good start to a list of Tasmanian Lakes.

Now you just need to make sure it is thorough, and then assign points. Too easy! :D

When you're done, we'll put it up on the Wiki. ;)
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Re: Lake Bagging

Postby Strider » Wed 02 May, 2012 8:18 pm

sthughes wrote:Might spawn the invention/popularisation of floating tents too, which I often think would be ideal when flat ground is hard to find :wink:

Again, one step ahead of you! :lol:

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Re: Lake Bagging

Postby walkinTas » Thu 03 May, 2012 3:26 am

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Re: Lake Bagging Rules

Postby Miyata610 » Thu 03 May, 2012 6:58 am

I would propose that we keep it simple. Several bushwalking groups overseas already have this in place and their rules seem to be fairly consistent.

Here is an example.....

http://www.ubes.org/pages/funstuff/lakebagging

And another.....

http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?s ... 1502066195

If the moderators would like to dedicate a thread to it, for people to record their successses, I'll volunteer to add up the points and announce a winner each season.
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Re: Lake Bagging

Postby matagi » Thu 03 May, 2012 7:29 am

So are you proposing this be done in winter? :shock:

We could get in touch with Poms and turn into an international competition. :P
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Re: Lake Bagging

Postby Miyata610 » Thu 03 May, 2012 7:31 am

Yep, winter. May through October.

Also needs to be within a National Park and/or WHA.

Edit....

Ok how about we also have a summer season for the wimps?
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Re: Lake Bagging

Postby matagi » Thu 03 May, 2012 7:42 am

Lake bagging May through to October - you have to be fully submerged and you get extra points for being naked?

I'm booking my flights to Tassie now! (or possibly not)

EDIT: Actually ..... I bet there are a few iced over lakes in the Victorian Alps in winter.
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Re: Lake Bagging

Postby Miyata610 » Thu 03 May, 2012 7:49 am

matagi wrote:EDIT: Actually ..... I bet there are a few iced over lakes in the Victorian Alps in winter.


Well start one in Victoria then. This one is for Tasmanians. :-)
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Re: Lake Bagging

Postby MrWalker » Thu 03 May, 2012 8:56 am

matagi wrote:Lake bagging May through to October - you have to be fully submerged and you get extra points for being naked?


And I'd been thinking that Lake Bagging might be a nice option since it shouldn't require excessive climbing. My heart siezes up if I get in water under 15 degrees so I'll skip this one.
So if I go in for waterfall-bagging instead does that mean I have to have a shower under it? :twisted:
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Re: Lake Bagging

Postby wander » Thu 03 May, 2012 9:16 am

What about the lakes where for ecological impact reasons we should not dip our sweaty, greasy, smelly, flaking bodies into? The "dip to claim the points" rule would appear to encouraging swimming where we should not swim.

And there are some lakes in Tas that are 6 (well it seems that deep) feet of mud with 1 foot of water on top, swimming in these lakes stirs up so much mud that cannot be good for the regular inhabitants of such places.

Maybe lakes would have different categories such as dip (Lake St Clair) or paddle (Lake Judd) or drink (Glassworm Tarn) to claim the points?

Swimming and camping in the catchment is forbidden in the upper lakes of Kozi, and they do variously freeze over or fill with snow in Winter.
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Re: Lake Bagging

Postby stu » Fri 04 May, 2012 11:56 am

So the Peak Bagging list has the ultimate 10 point peak - Federation.
What would be the 10 point lake? (& what criteria for determining points? Difficulty? Remoteness? Historical context? Size?).
And yes, absolutely much, much more difficult than gaining summits...most Tassie lakes are surrounded by very nasty scrub & often down in glacial hollows :shock:
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Re: Lake Bagging

Postby stepbystep » Fri 04 May, 2012 12:01 pm

Rhona surly the most beautiful??? Hardly remote though...

Curly?? Perhaps... Oberon maybe.... Think I'll stick to peaks :D
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Re: Lake Bagging

Postby AndyP » Fri 04 May, 2012 12:13 pm

I published a basic swimming points system in Langana a couple of years ago. Basically, this is how it goes:

Unlike the mountain system, the SPS would not assign a specific number of points to any given swimming location. The suggested rules are as follows:
1. A swim is defined as total immersion in a body of water.
2. The base score for a swim is 1 point.
3. One extra point shall be added for each days walk the body of water is from the nearest road.
4. One extra point shall be added if the swim takes place between March and May or between September and November
5. Two extra points shall be added if the swim takes place between June and August.
6. One extra point shall be added for each multiple of 400m that the body of water is above sea level (no half points).
7. Two points shall be added if the swim is conducted in the buff (also known as skinnydipping)
8. Total points shall be doubled if photographic evidence of skinnydipping is presented.

Needless to say, I've yet to see any photographic evidence, or any evidence at all that anyone has ever used this scheme. But if someone wanted to make a list of lakes and ascribe points to specific lakes, then some of these principles would probably be useful.

But having said that, I hope it never catches on!
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Re: Lake Bagging

Postby stu » Fri 04 May, 2012 12:42 pm

Well, a quick look at the maps would indicate some of these as the most remote / difficult to access:
- Satellite Lake (below the Crest Range)
- Lake Curly
- Lake Ewart / Lake Scott (Eldon Bluff area...can confirm this as we were there late last year).
- Croaking Lake (Companion Range...i'll include this one as I have swum here).
Probably best not to start including tarns...the list would be very long then!
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Re: Lake Bagging

Postby walkinTas » Fri 04 May, 2012 1:38 pm

Ewart would have to go close to being the Crown Jewel.
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Re: Lake Bagging

Postby stu » Fri 04 May, 2012 2:05 pm

A couple to inspire:
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Lake Scott & Lake Ewart from Eldon Bluff.

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Croaking Lake & Remote Peak (Companion Range)
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Re: Lake Bagging

Postby stepbystep » Fri 04 May, 2012 2:23 pm

Surely aesthetics have to come into it, Ewart may be remote, but it's no Rhona 8)
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Re: Lake Bagging

Postby stu » Fri 04 May, 2012 2:27 pm

Agree Dan...after the drowning of Lake Pedder this would have to be the most beautiful lake in Tassie surely?
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Re: Lake Bagging

Postby doogs » Fri 04 May, 2012 2:31 pm

I vote Ewart as the Holy Grail of Tassie Lakes.
Ewarts got ducks, does Rhona? Ducks must count for something ;)
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Re: Lake Bagging

Postby walkinTas » Fri 04 May, 2012 2:33 pm

stepbystep wrote:Surely aesthetics have to come into it, Ewart may be remote, but it's no Rhona 8)
Not necessarily disagreeing with you, but is aesthetics considered in peak bagging. ....And that's and interest question in itself - what is the best looking Mountain in Tassie. Surely the highest score goes to the one that is hardest to bag.
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Re: Lake Bagging

Postby stepbystep » Fri 04 May, 2012 2:40 pm

doogs wrote:I vote Ewart as the Holy Grail of Tassie Lakes.
Ewarts got ducks, does Rhona? Ducks must count for something ;)


Ducks?? OK that swings it for me :)
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