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Huayhuash Circuit

Postby Drew » Sun 19 Feb, 2017 10:53 am

My partner and I just booked flights to Peru for late May (whoo!). I'm set on doing the Cordillera Huayhuash Circuit, preferably independently. Have any forum members done it? I've done a fair amount of reading (books and blogs) but of course I'd love to get as much info as I can.

We're also looking at the Ausangate Circuit with the rainbow mountain (hopefully this would be as well as Huayhuash).

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Re: Huayhuash Circuit

Postby roysta » Sun 26 Feb, 2017 11:32 am

Hi there, I've done a shortened version of the Huayhuash plus other treks and climbs out of Huaraz.
You'll love the Huayhuash, fabulous territory.
If you want an absolute top line guide pm me and I'll give you details.



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Re: Huayhuash Circuit

Postby biggbird » Mon 27 Feb, 2017 8:03 pm

Hey Drew, will be interested to follow this, my partner and I are planning to make a trip to South America next year, and both of those walks are in the itinerary! We'll hopefully have a few months there, so hoping to get some time in Patagonia etc as well. Will be interested to hear of your experiences, we're planning on going independent as much as possible too. What gear are you planning to take?
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Re: Huayhuash Circuit

Postby Drew » Tue 28 Feb, 2017 8:54 am

Thanks for the replies.
Hi there, I've done a shortened version of the Huayhuash plus other treks and climbs out of Huaraz.
You'll love the Huayhuash, fabulous territory.
If you want an absolute top line guide pm me and I'll give you details.


Not planning to use a guide roysta but I might PM you with a few questions anyway.

Hey Drew, will be interested to follow this, my partner and I are planning to make a trip to South America next year, and both of those walks are in the itinerary! We'll hopefully have a few months there, so hoping to get some time in Patagonia etc as well. Will be interested to hear of your experiences, we're planning on going independent as much as possible too. What gear are you planning to take?


Lucky you, a few months sounds great. I've done a bit of walking in Patagonia and it's amazing. I'll probably post a trip report (assuming it happens!) so hopefully I'll hopefully have some good info for you.

Gear choices are what I'm struggling a bit with. The only thing giving me some doubts about doing it independently is the possibility that it will be too cold for our gear, and that warmer, rented gear would be heavy and make it too hard to do by ourselves. Most trip reports from a similar time of year suggest that we should expect warm days (like up to 20C) and overnight temps of 0C to -10C. Quite a range!

I have a -11 sleeping bag, but not a warm enough mat. I'll either buy a warmer mat or rent a foam mat to supplement mine. I'm a cold sleeper but I think that on really cold nights I'll be fine with a thermolite liner, all my clothes and a nalgene hot water bottle if needed!
My partner's bag is -8, but is getting old so has probably lost a few degrees. Her mat is warmer than mine but possible still not warm enough. She's a warmer sleeper than me but this bag might be pushing it. I've read that a -18 bag is recommended! Sounds like overkill, maybe from people who've never considered wearing clothes to bed.

I have a Mont Moondance 2 tent that is solid and certainly up to the task, but a bit heavy and very cramped for long cold nights in the tent (pretty short daylight hours). I recently bought a Tarptent Stratospire 2 (partly with this trip in mind), which is much lighter and more spacious, but not as solid in winds (I haven't used it much yet so don't really know). Also, I got it with a mesh inner, so it might be a bit cold...

We're planning to dehydrate most of our meals for the walk at home, which should save us a bit of weight over buying food in Peru.
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Re: Huayhuash Circuit

Postby biggbird » Sun 12 Mar, 2017 8:57 am

Yeah, it has been kinda difficult to work out what gear is needed, as most people you read gear lists from are either trip operators, or people who have done guided/portered trips, meaning they either a) don't choose their gear, or b) don't have to worry about the weight! Adding to the complexity is the fact that we will be gone for 6-10 months total, including some time in the US and India/Nepal, so we have to try to aim for gear that will suit all conditions. Shouldn't be too bad though, we're aiming to be up high for as much time as possible.

Just bought a Zpacks Triplex with the aim of taking it on this trip. Really interested to see how you go with wind/rain, as we'll be there at a similar time next year, and I'm a little apprehensive about such an UL tent is serious wind. I plan to put a few extra guys on just in case, and have slightly stronger poles than the recommended too. From what I have read, wind hasn't been a particular problem for most people.

Sleeping bag wise, it's the opposite for us: I'm the warm sleeper and my partner not so much. I'm planning to use this as an excuse to buy some (lots) new gear, so we're (I'm) currently looking at getting a couple of PHD bags. Handmade in the motherland, and about as expensive as you can get, but consistently reviewed as best for warmth/weight ratio. I'll probably get a Hispar 400k (-9C) and get a Hispar 500K (-15c) for my partner. Combined with her Downmat 7UL +/- clothes, that should hopefully keep her warm enough. I'll probably take my Neoair Xlite.

Anyway, will be looking forward to your report! Hope the weather is awesome :)
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Re: Huayhuash Circuit

Postby Drew » Sun 12 Mar, 2017 9:53 pm

Yep, the Triplex sure is light! A friend of mine just bought one too ahead of a year long trip around Europe. I couldn't believe the weight when he told me. He's planning to use it in Iceland, which might also be a test for it.

Hopefully I'll get to use my Stratospire in some windy conditions at home before going. I may still consider the Mont though.

We just ordered some Klymit R4.4 mats, so that should boost our warmth a bit. Still undecided about sleeping bags but I'm leaning towards "we'll be right, just wear everything if needed". A friend did 6 days of Alpamayo last year using a +3C comfort rated bag and she was warm enough! Not quite as high as Huayhuash and they were there around Sept so maybe a bit less cold but still, it's reassuring!

The PHD bags look amazing. And expensive. Maybe you already have, but consider a quilt before you make the purchase - I wish I had before buying my winter bag a few years ago. I'm happy with it but would probably go for a quilt if I were doing it again now.
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Re: Huayhuash Circuit

Postby biggbird » Sun 12 Mar, 2017 10:24 pm

Yep, they definitely look expensive. I've thought about a quilt before, but I just don't think i can bring myself to embrace the extra fiddle factor, with straps etc. I do toss and turn quite a bit in my sleep, meaning perhaps it would be a good thing for me, but I could also see myself just accidentally pulling it off/dislodging it. Much the same reason I'm not keen on a pyramid tent - I have no doubt I would knock over that centre pole in the middle of the night!

Sounds like the bags you have may be a goer. I imagine you'd be taking a down/synthetic puffy with you each, plus some thermals, so I doubt you'd get into a situation where you would ever be so cold as to be in real danger, as long as your tent stays up and you aren't too wet. You could always huddle up in the one bag to stay warm :P
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Re: Huayhuash Circuit

Postby Drew » Thu 16 Mar, 2017 12:26 pm

Yep, down jacket, probably a fleece, thermals. And a thermolite liner (they exaggerate greatly how much warmth they add but still more than a silk liner). Should be fine.

Regarding the Triplex, I meant to say earlier that the winds in Patagonia are often ridiculous. However on the more popular walks at least (Torres del Paine, Fitzroy) the campsites are usually pretty sheltered.

We're now seriously considering doing the Ausangate, then either a shortened version of the Alpamayo or a shortened version of the Huayhuash (both 5-6 days instead of 9-10). Would be better to do them the other way around as the Ausangate is really high, but logistically it works best for us to go to Ausangate first.

Just dehydrated the first meals for the trip!
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Re: Huayhuash Circuit

Postby roysta » Mon 03 Apr, 2017 8:17 am

Make sure you acclimatise well.


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Re: Huayhuash Circuit

Postby biggbird » Fri 19 May, 2017 11:53 pm

Have you left yet Drew? Decide on an itinerary in the end? Hope it's an awesome trip, looking forward to your reports when you get back!
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Re: Huayhuash Circuit

Postby Drew » Sat 20 May, 2017 9:55 am

Have you left yet Drew? Decide on an itinerary in the end? Hope it's an awesome trip, looking forward to your reports when you get back!


Leaving on Tuesday morning!

We're going to Cusco first, then after a few days acclimatising (including a day hike to get a bit higher than Cusco) off to do Ausangate over 5 or 6 days. After that to Huaraz. We'll most likely do a 5-6 day version of Alpamayo but still open to the possibility of a shortened version of Huayhuash depending on what we learn once over there. Then to the coast for some surfing before heading to Colombia for 4 weeks.

You might be waiting a while for trip reports but I'll definitely do them.
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