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Re: Game: Where-is-it (Aussie)

PostPosted: Wed 27 Feb, 2019 10:11 am
by Tyreless
I'd agree with crollsurf, but say they went up Ruined Castle on the way out but around it on the way back. Also looks like they climbed the Korrowall Knife Edge but didn't go much further across Mt Solitary. If I'm right then crollsurf's right, so it's his go next.

Re: Game: Where-is-it (Aussie)

PostPosted: Wed 27 Feb, 2019 10:35 am
by johnw
Tyreless wrote:I'd agree with crollsurf, but say they went up Ruined Castle on the way out but around it on the way back. Also looks like they climbed the Korrowall Knife Edge but didn't go much further across Mt Solitary. If I'm right then crollsurf's right, so it's his go next.

I would agree if the return distance is 13.62 km. I know that a return trip from the top of Golden Stairs to the top of Korrowall Knife Edge is approx. 14 km. Deviation to Ruined Castle would have little impact on that.

Re: Game: Where-is-it (Aussie)

PostPosted: Wed 27 Feb, 2019 11:37 am
by ribuck
Well done for working it out, crollsurf. And kudos to tyreless and johnw for additional details.

Here's what I reckon were the clues:

  • The starting and ending altitude are higher than the rest of the walk. This is characteristic of sandstone country close to Sydney, especially the Blue Mountains
  • The walk starts by immediately going steeply downhill, i.e. descending the escarpment
  • If we cut out the bump from 3.5 to 5.0 km, what's left is symmetrical around the 7.5 km high point. This tells us that it's an "out-and-back" trip, the purpose of which was to reach a mountain
  • The bump from 3.5 to 5.0 km is also symmetrical, so we have an "out-and-back" side trip to a lesser peak, which was only undertaken on the outward leg
  • There are long stretches with a very gentle, steady slope of about 20m per km. That's very little, and might not be noticed on the ground. It's typical of constructions such as water channels and railway lines
The railway line, in this case, is the abandoned narrow-gauge railway that ran past the base of Ruined Castle. We see that they made a side-trip up ruined castle on the way out, but not on the way back. Furthermore, the symmetry of the side-trip shows that they descended Ruined Castle the same way they ascended it, whereas someone who knows the area well would usually keep going to rejoin the main track further along. As Tyreless worked out, they didn't go right across Mt Solitary, or even as far as Chinamans Gully which would have been obvious on the altitude plot. We know that they started at the Golden Staircase, becuause if they started at Furber Steps we would have seen the roughness of the landslide on the plot. And we know that the party comprised two men and a woman because ... no hang on, that doesn't show up on the plot.

Re: Game: Where-is-it (Aussie)

PostPosted: Wed 27 Feb, 2019 1:16 pm
by crollsurf
Always good to try something different to keep us on our toes ribuck
NSW again.
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Korrowall Knife Edge looking towards the Golden Staircase, Blue Mountains NP, NSW

Re: Game: Where-is-it (Aussie)

PostPosted: Wed 27 Feb, 2019 2:05 pm
by johnw
:lol: Looking along the line of ribuck's elevation graph from the Korrowall Knife Edge

Re: Game: Where-is-it (Aussie)

PostPosted: Wed 27 Feb, 2019 2:59 pm
by crollsurf
Thats right johnw. I was hoping you'd be thinking "No it couldn't be". All yours

Re: Game: Where-is-it (Aussie)

PostPosted: Wed 27 Feb, 2019 11:11 pm
by johnw
crollsurf wrote:Thats right johnw. I was hoping you'd be thinking "No it couldn't be". All yours

Thanks crollsurf, yes I was thinking that and did a double take when I saw it :).

NSW again. Name as many major features in view as possible - There are a minimum of three. Bonus point for my location.
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On Wombat Hill Lookout with the twin lumps of Wombat Hill below, looking up the Yarrunga Creek Valley towards Fitzroy Falls, with Mt Carrialoo and Mt Moolattoo on the right - Morton NP via Moss Vale NSW

Re: Game: Where-is-it (Aussie)

PostPosted: Thu 28 Feb, 2019 6:26 am
by jonnosan
I did a 1000x zoom with digital image enhancement, and I reckon I can clearly make out crollsurf on top of korrowal knife edge taking a photo of you, johnw :-)

Re: Game: Where-is-it (Aussie)

PostPosted: Thu 28 Feb, 2019 6:28 am
by jonnosan
PS I reckon you are most likely on a (AFAIK) unnamed pagoda just off glenraphael drive about 1km before golden stairs car park.

Additional visible features include ruined castle, kings tableland, sublime point, kedumba creek

Re: Game: Where-is-it (Aussie)

PostPosted: Thu 28 Feb, 2019 8:46 am
by johnw
jonnosan wrote:I did a 1000x zoom with digital image enhancement, and I reckon I can clearly make out crollsurf on top of korrowal knife edge taking a photo of you, johnw :-)

:lol:

jonnosan wrote:PS I reckon you are most likely on a (AFAIK) unnamed pagoda just off glenraphael drive about 1km before golden stairs car park.

Additional visible features include ruined castle, kings tableland, sublime point, kedumba creek

Some similarities but this is a long way from the Blueys

Re: Game: Where-is-it (Aussie)

PostPosted: Thu 28 Feb, 2019 9:57 am
by michael_p
Lets start to narrow this down. Shoalhaven River area?

Re: Game: Where-is-it (Aussie)

PostPosted: Thu 28 Feb, 2019 10:16 am
by johnw
michael_p wrote:Lets start to narrow this down. Shoalhaven River area?

Yes It is the Shoalhaven area Michael

Re: Game: Where-is-it (Aussie)

PostPosted: Thu 28 Feb, 2019 12:23 pm
by jindydiver
johnw wrote:
michael_p wrote:Lets start to narrow this down. Shoalhaven River area?

Yes It is the Shoalhaven area Michael


Are you on the spur coming up from the ettrema-shoalhaven junction looking back at mt Edwards?

Re: Game: Where-is-it (Aussie)

PostPosted: Thu 28 Feb, 2019 12:41 pm
by johnw
jindydiver wrote:
johnw wrote:
michael_p wrote:Lets start to narrow this down. Shoalhaven River area?

Yes It is the Shoalhaven area Michael


Are you on the spur coming up from the ettrema-shoalhaven junction looking back at mt Edwards?

I'm a fair way north of there and looking NE but you are getting closer

Re: Game: Where-is-it (Aussie)

PostPosted: Thu 28 Feb, 2019 1:28 pm
by crollsurf
I'd say you are at Wombat Hill Lookout, looking over Yarrunga Creek and Mt Mooltatoo. Not sure but if you look closely, that may be me standing on Mt Carrialoo.

Re: Game: Where-is-it (Aussie)

PostPosted: Thu 28 Feb, 2019 1:54 pm
by johnw
crollsurf wrote:I'd say you are at Wombat Hill Lookout, looking over Yarrunga Creek and Mt Mooltatoo. Not sure but if you look closely, that may be me standing on Mt Carrialoo.

I thought that was you crollsurf :wink:

Yes all correct and you get the bonus point, on Wombat Hill LO with the twin lumps of Wombat Hill below (interesting that only the southern one is named on the map), looking up the Yarrunga Creek Valley towards Fitzroy Falls, Mt Carrialoo and Mt Moolattoo on the right. I've climbed Carrialoo a couple of times, one day I'd like to try Moolattoo.

Re: Game: Where-is-it (Aussie)

PostPosted: Thu 28 Feb, 2019 2:27 pm
by crollsurf
Thanks johnw, might even head down that way this weekend.
Not too far away in NSW. Can you name where I am heading to?
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Re: Game: Where-is-it (Aussie)

PostPosted: Thu 28 Feb, 2019 2:47 pm
by Tyreless
That looks like Pigeon House on the left - is that where you are heading to?

Re: Game: Where-is-it (Aussie)

PostPosted: Thu 28 Feb, 2019 3:16 pm
by potato
Little Forest Plateau to Mt Talaterang ?

Re: Game: Where-is-it (Aussie)

PostPosted: Thu 28 Feb, 2019 3:27 pm
by crollsurf
That is Pigeon House but the track doesn't take me there.
I am on Little Forest Plateau but "head"ing to a spot East of Talaterang

Re: Game: Where-is-it (Aussie)

PostPosted: Fri 01 Mar, 2019 7:51 am
by cajun
Heading toward Florence Head?

Re: Game: Where-is-it (Aussie)

PostPosted: Fri 01 Mar, 2019 8:34 am
by crollsurf
cajun wrote:Heading toward Florence Head?

From where I was standing, you could be heading to Florence or Rusden Head. Your go cajun

Re: Game: Where-is-it (Aussie)

PostPosted: Fri 01 Mar, 2019 8:47 am
by cajun
Thanks Crollsurf,

Rusden, Florence and Mt Bushwalker are great "bang for your buck" walks.

This is also in NSW - taken with some zoom.

Name the NP I am in.

Re: Game: Where-is-it (Aussie)

PostPosted: Fri 01 Mar, 2019 10:17 am
by johnw
cajun wrote:This is also in NSW - taken with some zoom.

Name the NP I am in.

If it's where I think it is - Macquarie Pass NP

Re: Game: Where-is-it (Aussie)

PostPosted: Fri 01 Mar, 2019 6:53 pm
by cajun
Sorry for the delay - it certainly is.

Over to you John.

Re: Game: Where-is-it (Aussie)

PostPosted: Sat 02 Mar, 2019 9:52 am
by johnw
cajun wrote:Sorry for the delay - it certainly is.

Over to you John.

Thanks cajun. I once made a circuit by climbing up that series of waterfalls, followed the creek upstream to meet an old fire trail eventually joining the Illawarra Hwy. Walking back down the road was the scariest part of the whole thing. I'd rather reverse the route than do that again.

Where is this in NSW, bonus point for pinpointing my location:
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Overlooking Tinpot Hill and Galong Creek Valley from Ironpot Mountain - Wild Dog Mountains, Blue Mountains NP via Blackheath NSW

Re: Game: Where-is-it (Aussie)

PostPosted: Sun 03 Mar, 2019 7:34 am
by jonnosan
A stab in the dark - is it the view from Bonum Pic?

Re: Game: Where-is-it (Aussie)

PostPosted: Sun 03 Mar, 2019 4:28 pm
by johnw
jonnosan wrote:A stab in the dark - is it the view from Bonum Pic?

This is quite a long way north of Bonnum Pic

Re: Game: Where-is-it (Aussie)

PostPosted: Mon 04 Mar, 2019 9:30 am
by ribuck
Are you on Ironpot Mountain, with Tinpot Hill in the middle ground?

Re: Game: Where-is-it (Aussie)

PostPosted: Mon 04 Mar, 2019 12:37 pm
by johnw
ribuck wrote:Are you on Ironpot Mountain, with Tinpot Hill in the middle ground?

Correct with bonus point ribuck, over to you.