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RNP Muddy Creek

Postby dnaylor » Mon 21 Oct, 2019 5:20 pm

Hi again..
spotted an interesting rock formation along the Muddy creek in RNP and was wondering if anyone here has accessed the area between
https://goo.gl/maps/Qm7mR7LjyhxxcpM66
and
https://goo.gl/maps/jYcff2ZNgBESPXoe6
i was thinking coming in from here at https://goo.gl/maps/dv1HfTgedVFNA7317
I noticed that would cross an old track at around here.. https://goo.gl/maps/FPSLpV5982jXtSmo7
any info on where this track starts?
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Re: RNP Muddy Creek

Postby Warin » Mon 21 Oct, 2019 6:23 pm

dnaylor wrote:I noticed that would cross an old track at around here.. https://goo.gl/maps/FPSLpV5982jXtSmo7
any info on where this track starts?


Looks to me to be The Meadows Fire Trail.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/26495370
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Re: RNP Muddy Creek

Postby michael_p » Mon 21 Oct, 2019 6:45 pm

The Meadows fire trail is too far east.

Page 88 of the DoE doc hints that Muddy creek is reached from the Winifred Falls track: https://www.environment.nsw.gov.au/-/me ... l-park.pdf . Not sure of this implies that there is a track to follow or just that the Winifred Falls track crosses it.
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Re: RNP Muddy Creek

Postby Warin » Mon 21 Oct, 2019 7:34 pm

:?: I think what you are looking at is the water course that is the creek.. when it flows..

According to the LPI Base Map the creek crosses the Winifred Falls Trail at -34.080817603096925, 151.06813788346946

I have extended the creek in OSM using the LPI data so it should show up in a day or so.
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Re: RNP Muddy Creek

Postby clarence » Mon 21 Oct, 2019 9:52 pm

Many years ago I walked more or less where you plan, from the Hacking River, then up Muddy Creek.

I recall camping on big rock platforms beside the creek- so it must have been the features you mention.

From memory there were some small rounded clifflines above the Hacking River heading east.

it was all cross country, and nothing too extreme from memory- BUT, depending on time since last fire, things can get extremely thick in that part of the world.

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Re: RNP Muddy Creek

Postby Warin » Tue 22 Oct, 2019 7:01 am

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Re: RNP Muddy Creek

Postby dnaylor » Tue 22 Oct, 2019 6:24 pm

clarence wrote:Many years ago I walked more or less where you plan, from the Hacking River, then up Muddy Creek.

I recall camping on big rock platforms beside the creek- so it must have been the features you mention.

From memory there were some small rounded clifflines above the Hacking River heading east.

it was all cross country, and nothing too extreme from memory- BUT, depending on time since last fire, things can get extremely thick in that part of the world.

Clarence

that sounds great, yes I've sometimes battled through our wonderful scrub that's armored... lol im thinking of doing it as a leisurely 2 day trip assuming very slow progress through scrub... :)
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Re: RNP Muddy Creek

Postby dnaylor » Tue 22 Oct, 2019 6:27 pm


Yay... thankyou.. :)
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Re: RNP Muddy Creek

Postby dnaylor » Tue 22 Oct, 2019 6:35 pm

Warin wrote::?: I think what you are looking at is the water course that is the creek.. when it flows..

According to the LPI Base Map the creek crosses the Winifred Falls Trail at -34.080817603096925, 151.06813788346946

I have extended the creek in OSM using the LPI data so it should show up in a day or so.

The track referred to in map ref https://goo.gl/maps/FPSLpV5982jXtSmo7 travels over ground that wouldn't work as a stream most of the way naturally so i think is actually an old track that would tend to be eroded in time but as I've often found, reality of trying to follow these on the ground is hard as satellite views can cut through thickets and overgrowth quite well... :)
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Re: RNP Muddy Creek

Postby Warin » Tue 22 Oct, 2019 7:06 pm

dnaylor wrote:
Warin wrote::?: I think what you are looking at is the water course that is the creek.. when it flows..

According to the LPI Base Map the creek crosses the Winifred Falls Trail at -34.080817603096925, 151.06813788346946

I have extended the creek in OSM using the LPI data so it should show up in a day or so.

The track referred to in map ref https://goo.gl/maps/FPSLpV5982jXtSmo7 travels over ground that wouldn't work as a stream


The waymark is within ~10 meters of the stream given by the LPI base map. Not unusual for that amount of error between the map and actuality...

Best thing .. go and look.
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Re: RNP Muddy Creek

Postby michael_p » Tue 22 Oct, 2019 7:27 pm

2005 satellite image shows something interesting heading north from just to the east of where the Winifred Track crosses Muddy Ck.
muddycreek.jpg

Location on Google Maps: https://goo.gl/maps/xPsidU6bG3HdkzKFA

As Warin said, have a look is the only way to solve this. And best of luck, as you can guarantee the scrub will be bad. :D

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