Hallu wrote:There's already been an increase in camping fees in July... In Wyperfeld and Hattah-Kulkyne it went from 14 $ a night last year to 19.80 $ right now, a 40% increase, that's in no way "modest", and it's the price of a tent site in a caravan park (so with showers; flush toilets and cooking facilities)... I would agree if this increase meant better facilities, but it didn't. If they want some free campsites such as Johanna Beach, Aire River, or Lake Crosbie to stop being free, fine, but show us the improvement.
tsangpo wrote:I think the thing that shocked my attention was charging for dispersed camping where there aren't actually facilities anywhere in NP's like the Alpine NP.
Earwig wrote:Hallu wrote:There's already been an increase in camping fees in July... In Wyperfeld and Hattah-Kulkyne it went from 14 $ a night last year to 19.80 $ right now, a 40% increase, that's in no way "modest", and it's the price of a tent site in a caravan park (so with showers; flush toilets and cooking facilities)... I would agree if this increase meant better facilities, but it didn't. If they want some free campsites such as Johanna Beach, Aire River, or Lake Crosbie to stop being free, fine, but show us the improvement.
Do you want every camping spot to be a caravan park?
neilmny wrote:Read the DEPI document from page 87 on "Detailed figures on the estimated cost of providing camping facilities in parks and
reserves managed by Parks Victoria for the 2013-14 financial year are provided in Table A.1."
Basic & Very Basic (dispersed camping) cost more than 3 times ($6.7m)the Very High service camping areas ($2.1m) and more than 50% of the overall costs per annum ($12.4m)
yet they will charge $18.00 per night (see page 77) for nothing as opposed to $66.00 for the very high service powered sites.
What the is this some sort of joke
Hallu wrote:In Wyperfeld and Hattah-Kulkyne it went from 14 $ a night last year to 19.80 $ right now, a 40% increase, that's in no way "modest", and it's the price of a tent site in a caravan park (so with showers; flush toilets and cooking facilities
Hallu wrote: Honestly, I'd prefer to pay an annual pass to Victorian parks and have cheaper campground fees
mbikeboy wrote:Hallu wrote:...Many schools contribute to activities like track-building for free in their outdoor education curriculum saving the system a pretty penny. Spring St has got to be kidding...far from impressed!
iGBH wrote:neilmny wrote:Read the DEPI document from page 87 on "Detailed figures on the estimated cost of providing camping facilities in parks and
reserves managed by Parks Victoria for the 2013-14 financial year are provided in Table A.1."
Basic & Very Basic (dispersed camping) cost more than 3 times ($6.7m)the Very High service camping areas ($2.1m) and more than 50% of the overall costs per annum ($12.4m)
yet they will charge $18.00 per night (see page 77) for nothing as opposed to $66.00 for the very high service powered sites.
What the is this some sort of joke
Then read the bit that estimates the number of users for each type of camping. Dispersed camping is done by many more people, hence lower cost.
tsangpo wrote:mbikeboy wrote:Hallu wrote:...Many schools contribute to activities like track-building for free in their outdoor education curriculum saving the system a pretty penny. Spring St has got to be kidding...far from impressed!
Plus summer DEPI firefighters can do track maintenance and construction when there aren't fires to fill in time.
Also I could just imagine a ranger trying to get details out of someone that didn't want to give them to be fined halfway down a rafting trip on the Snowy or out past Mt Nelse.
Could also discourage people writing in intentions books which just makes it more expensive if rescues need to happen.
Snowzone wrote:I think this is going to end up costing the government more money than they think they are going to raise out of this.
Take the Grampians for an example; a good percentage of people that camp in the Gramps already avoid paying the camping fees now because half the campgrounds are nowhere near Brambuk where you are supposed to pay the permit fee. OK yes you can phone and pay by credit card but most people cannot get any service at a lot of the campgrounds. Its a stupid setup already and raising prices will only encourage more people to avoid paying.
Now of course to combat this they will have to have Parks employees running around all over the place checking to see everyone is legal! As if that's going to happen, they don't have enough employees now. And if they're all busy running around chasing camping fees who is actually going to be doing any maintenance anyway!
vicpres wrote:I found out a bit of background to this proposal today.
Firstly, don't blame Parks Victoria. My information is that it was proposed from the Minister's office and senior people in Parks and Department of Environment and Primary Industries (DEPI) were forced to sign confidentiality agreements prior to being briefed on the details (so much, yet again, for open and transparent government). Furthermore, the details of the proposal were leaked to the media, forcing the Minister to publicly release the full details before he was ready to do so.
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