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Kinsayder wrote:Great pictures and report, Ryan!
Wed 20 Mar, 2013 10:35 am
Wed 20 Mar, 2013 12:50 pm
Kinsayder wrote:Stupid question; where's Pretty Valley? I've heard it mentioned a few times just lately and I know that it's in the Bogong High Plains area but that all. I've got maps at home, so I'll look tonight but I just thought I'd ask.
Kinsayder wrote:I'd just like to add that, whilst it might seem prudish or whatever, I find the notion that we have a mountain called the Niggerheads (or Mt Niggerhead) just so very wrong. I'm not, in any way, (especially when you've gone to the trouble of offering both the alternative and pronunciation) blaming you, Ryan, but I think it should be expunged from our lexicon entirely.
Wed 20 Mar, 2013 4:43 pm
ryantmalone wrote:The current name in its own right is offensive to the local Aboriginal population, as it represents a language that is not even spoken in that area, and it moves away from acknowledging that racism has been a part of our history.
I grew up knowing it as "The Niggerheads", also knowing that racism is wrong, and that the name came about as the result of a dark period in our history where racism was more widely accepted, and I honestly cant see myself referring to it as anything else, and further fueling the PC debate, which has been responsible for renaming many other landmarks and national parks, some warranted, others completely and utterly absurd.
That said... anyone wants to call it the PC name, I'm not going to hold it against anyone. I just hope they realize that the new PC name is just as offensive, if not more offensive than the original name.
Wed 20 Mar, 2013 6:51 pm
Can you provide a link which indicates why the name Jaimathang is offensive and to whom? My searching so far has revealed only that there is evidence for the name being relevant for some people and I've yet to find any mention of offensiveness. I'll just provide two links here. There are a few others, but not a lot that seem authoritative.
I. An historical reference:
Interesting that the indigenous word for Bogong moth is "bangenba".
2. A contemporary reference:
I detect a red herring in the so-called issue of a "PC debate". It's not a matter of whether one "wants to call" a place one name or another. It's whether all the evidence for a decision has been considered. This is why I'd really like to know more about any offence caused by the use of Jaimathang. Remember also that a name change may not necessarily be permanent. During wartime, many Australian town names of Germanic origin were Anglicised; some later reverted to the original. Opinions can change over time when judgemental language is replaced by informed debate.
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