Hannels Spur Loop, Easter 2019, Parts 1 & 2

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Re: Hannels Spur Loop, Easter 2019, Parts 1 & 2

Postby Stew63 » Fri 03 May, 2019 6:48 pm

Oh great trip report too Mr C!
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Re: Hannels Spur Loop, Easter 2019, Parts 1 & 2

Postby puredingo » Wed 08 May, 2019 3:42 pm

Roger, where do get the water proof paper from?

I’m nervous about the topo map shortage of the future and my supply is very tatty indeed.
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Re: Hannels Spur Loop, Easter 2019, Parts 1 & 2

Postby rcaffin » Wed 08 May, 2019 4:18 pm

Just do an internet search on 'waterproof paper site:au' and you will tons of hits. A few dollars for a pack.
You will even find the stuff on eBay and Amazon. A common laser printer will do nicely.
A common international brand is 'Rite-in-Rain' - I have used that, but many other brands.
An A3 laser printer or an A3 photocopier is deluxe - I have reams of A3 copies ...

You can also get waterproof sleeves on eBay: also a good idea just for mechanical protection.

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Re: Hannels Spur Loop, Easter 2019, Parts 1 & 2

Postby puredingo » Wed 08 May, 2019 9:01 pm

Thanks mate,

This information shall be transferred to the missus because basically....I’m useless.
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Re: Hannels Spur Loop, Easter 2019, Parts 1 & 2

Postby rcaffin » Wed 08 May, 2019 9:12 pm

You got her the info, didn't you?

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Re: Hannels Spur Loop, Easter 2019, Parts 1 & 2

Postby Zapruda » Thu 09 May, 2019 11:06 am

I grabbed a set of these Sutmaps off Bruce at Wilderness Sports in Jindabyne. They are waterproof and tear proof. I really like them. They have just the right amount of detail and all three weigh less than one NSW topo. Because of their size they are very manageable in the wind.

There are only 3 maps available for KNP - Jagungal, Schlink Pass, Kosciuszko. These 3 maps cover the areas north of the Charcoal Range all the way to just south of Tabletop. I would prefer a set for the northern end of the park but oh well...
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Re: Hannels Spur Loop, Easter 2019, Parts 1 & 2

Postby Summitview » Mon 14 Oct, 2019 1:45 pm

Hi Roger

I went down Hannels Spur in 1978 and went up it two years ago - before the track was cleared.

I am looking at going up again in December. My partner is very fit but not that keen on pushing through scrub. From your post and an article in Wild, I gather the route has been cut up to Byatts Camp, but that a section right at the base of the spur might be a bit scrubby. Does that fit your memory of it?

Also interested in your advice as to how best to get from the top of the spur to the Mt Kosciuszko track (noting your comments about boulders). We traversed rather slowly into Wilkinsons Valley from a bit above the treeline. In regards to Byatts Camp, we found it difficult to identify where this was, as different maps seemed to locate it in different places.

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Re: Hannels Spur Loop, Easter 2019, Parts 1 & 2

Postby rcaffin » Mon 14 Oct, 2019 2:20 pm

Actually, they started cutting from the top down. So now it has all been cut.

When we did it the first time we went up from the bottom. We followed some sort of track to a wooden NPWS sign at the bottom (somewhere) and then went up VERY steeply for some distance. There was a taped track, but we were using tree roots as holds. Then we followed the crest of the spur up to the saddles at around 1000 m and camped in one large saddle. Going up to Moiras Flat was scrubby: we followed the spur. We did pass through Moiras Flat (sign post to water), but I am not sure there was a real lot of track from there to the top either. I forget how we got from the signboard over the Abbotts range into the Wilkinson valley.

This last time, going downwards, we made the huge mistake of following the Townsend track and trying to go OVER Abbott. That was very rough. We should have followed the Wilkinson valley downstream to a signboard and then gone up to the saddle to the left (west?) of all the Abbotts bit. From there a track goes down to Byatts camp (it's a basin with water) and then across to the old wood signboard on a cut track. From the signboard down it is steep, with lots of leaves. I sat down (abruptly) a few times.

The cut track goes through the first small saddle around 1000 m (where we found room for ONE tent), but then it dives down to cross a gully - which did not show any water when we were there. But we did not search. I am fairly sure that we had camped at the top of this gully on the first trip in a generous flat area. Beyond that the cut track eventually starts to sidle down the right side of the spur (a bit slippery); I am sure we had followed the crest of the spur going upwards. I reckon that was easier. Why did they sidle? Dunno. But eventually the cut track becomes a very easy grassy 4WD track down to the Geehi Flats, a metal signboard, and a 4WD track to Dr Forbes.

I am not sure where we went up the first time relative to this metal signboard, but the difference in angles was huge!

So the whole track is cut, and it may be nicer going upwards rather than downwards, despite the grunt. You won't slip as much. Big climb though. When you get to the top signboard, turn right and follow the cut track.

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