Horses and heritage

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Re: Horses and heritage

Postby sambar358 » Tue 09 Apr, 2019 8:51 am

Xplora wrote: I am not sure how anyone could argue the count should be not be done under NPWS authority. It is the land manager.


Agree....get someone with a vested interest in the feral horses to do this and you can guarantee that the count results will be a bit dodgy. Parks should get a local staffer a seat in one of the choppers doing the deer cull mid-May and I'm sure those choppers will be flying most of the feral horse range on the BHP and they'd see most of them. Doing a ground count won't work as you can't cover enough country to ensure that you're not double-counting as you'll miss plenty that are in the bush and not out on the open plains in clear view.

Then of course there are the horses outside the BHP too and there are plenty of them lower down that will likely re-populate the BHP once the local neddies are reduced in number. All this should be seen as an on-going task and not just something to get done and then the issue is solved, once the numbers are reduced efforts should still be made to keep the pressure on otherwise horse numbers will build again and things will be much the same in 10 years time. Cheers

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Re: Horses and heritage

Postby DavidB » Tue 09 Apr, 2019 9:19 am

NSW developed a pretty good horse plan for KNP back in 2016. This is all just an excuse to delay any effective action.

All very sad really.
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Re: Horses and heritage

Postby Xplora » Tue 09 Apr, 2019 1:54 pm

sambar358 wrote:
Xplora wrote: I am not sure how anyone could argue the count should be not be done under NPWS authority. It is the land manager.


Agree....get someone with a vested interest in the feral horses to do this and you can guarantee that the count results will be a bit dodgy. Parks should get a local staffer a seat in one of the choppers doing the deer cull mid-May and I'm sure those choppers will be flying most of the feral horse range on the BHP and they'd see most of them. Doing a ground count won't work as you can't cover enough country to ensure that you're not double-counting as you'll miss plenty that are in the bush and not out on the open plains in clear view.

Then of course there are the horses outside the BHP too and there are plenty of them lower down that will likely re-populate the BHP once the local neddies are reduced in number. All this should be seen as an on-going task and not just something to get done and then the issue is solved, once the numbers are reduced efforts should still be made to keep the pressure on otherwise horse numbers will build again and things will be much the same in 10 years time. Cheers

s358

The horses management plan for BHP extends to Dinner Plain and down to the McCoys boundary or Bundara private land. Also PV used FLIR imaging to count the Barmah forest horses. The fly overs have to be in an ordered grid and the results were pretty good. This time of year is ideal for FLIR was the cooling ground creates a nice contrast. A count of BHP was done 12 months ago but not sure if FLIR was used. I saw the helicopter and it was flying a grid. You can count dead horses easier than live ones though.

Fishing is still good up here and lots of honkers around. One in the fridge now. You should get up but maybe next week. Turning cold just now and rain today.
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Re: Horses and heritage

Postby RFG » Wed 10 Apr, 2019 11:03 pm

Without trying to be preachy, can I encourage anyone who has concerns about allowing a similar situation to what has played out with the NSW KNP horse situation spreading to Victoria and in turn flowing onto conservation reserves across the country, now is the time to make a formal submission to the Barmah plan to indicate your support, even if you don’t live in Victoria or visit Barmah. You can bet that the brumby loving fraternity and anti parks activists from right across the country and internationally are mobilising to bring Parks Vic unstuck on this one. If Parks Vic and it’s political masters go weak at the knees on the Barmah plan through lack of general community support, then you can kiss good bye to any rational approach to feral horse control in the Vic Alps, any chance of redeeming the ridiculous situation of controlling and managing ferals in NSW or SE Australia for that matter. No use just voicing your opinions on social media. Need to make your views known via the formal channels. Only takes 10 minutes online.
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