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Re: Neck and Shoulders.

Postby bigkev » Sat 13 Jun, 2020 4:38 pm

jobell wrote:Damn this is a club I so didn't want to join! After varying back issues and neck pain that I have mostly ignored over the last few years (except for one very painful week after limping home post an excruciating night in the bush, complete with vertigo, may I never have that particular joy again!) I finally bit the bullet and had scans done last week. The doc rang me yesterday (I am liking this telehealth thing) and it turns out I have early signs of degeneration/osteoarthritis complete with a narrowing between...C5 and C6. Oh and T6 to T10 is looking pretty shabby too. Are we all just...ah hem...ageing or is this a bushwalker's curse?

Luckily I rock an Aarn pack! But I did buy an Osprey pack recently to try something different (and lighter); it's going to be sold on now though. My partner has a top notch physio who I shall be lining up to see myself now too. Whatever it takes to keep me walking...



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Misadventure and age for me Jo :? Thankfully my back only really gives me a lot of grief when I'm sitting or lying down. A couple of pills of vitamin I normally gets me through the night on my walks in relative comfort.

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Re: Neck and Shoulders.

Postby Eremophila » Mon 29 Jun, 2020 5:20 pm

Wondering how you're getting on M-Al? I was thinking of you the other evening whilst having my colour rinsed.
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Re: Neck and Shoulders.

Postby Mechanic-AL » Tue 30 Jun, 2020 5:41 pm

Hi there Eremo...

It's heartwarming to think that I may pop into somebodies thoughts when ever they get their hair colour rinsed.... :lol: :lol: :lol:

....the surgeon I saw was keen to make sure I had given this condition the full 6 weeks on anti-inflammatory medication as this is supposed to be the magical time period for things to settle down by themselves. Tomorrow is the 6 week anniversary of this curse and nothing has changed.

Have an appointment on Friday for nerve block injection in the C6 vertebrae so hopefully by the time you are having your next rinse I'll know how things have gone.

thanks for your inquiry and I let you know how I get on.

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Re: Neck and Shoulders.

Postby Eremophila » Tue 30 Jun, 2020 6:36 pm

Wow, 6 weeks is a long time with no relief!

One thing - if you are having physio treatment, clinical Pilates, remedial massage or the like - ask your GP for a "care plan". This gives you a couple of extra hundred $$$ after your private health limit runs out. You usually have an appointment with a nurse at your GP clinic, they ask some questions and complete the relevant paperwork, then the GP comes in and signs off on it. It's submitted to Medicare and then goes straight to your provider from memory.

You can apply for this every 12 months - I've been told different things by my GP and by providers, as to whether that's a calendar year or 12 months from the last plan. Anyhow hopefully once your symptoms settle you may be able to look at some kind of therapy.

Good luck.

Edit: it may be helpful if your specialist/surgeon can give you something - just a scribbled note on their letterhead - recommending the treatment/s for which you are seeking a care plan.
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Re: Neck and Shoulders.

Postby Mechanic-AL » Tue 30 Jun, 2020 8:10 pm

Eremophila wrote:Wow, 6 weeks is a long time with no relief!.


Tell me about it :( :( :( :(

Interesting you keep mentioning clinical pilates and remedial massage. I made a point of asking about these after reading your replies and was told by the orthapaedic surgeon that these may give limited relief in the short term but they provide no long term benefits to a full recovery. A few people I've spoken to have expressed surprise that this was the advice I was given.
Do you think you get any long term benefits or not ?

Never thought Id say this but I cant wait for the first needle !!
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Re: Neck and Shoulders.

Postby Eremophila » Tue 30 Jun, 2020 9:19 pm

I’m interested that your ortho mentioned full recovery. How does he see this happening?

Remedial massage can relieve the soft tissue pain and stiffness resulting from compressed nerves. Physiotherapy can address similar issues, my physio has provided me with stretches designed to stretch the nerves in my arm.

Pilates... how to explain. Can focus largely on core strength. Re-training muscles to work in a better way, some movements can be very subtle but it somehow works. My sessions have progressed to different and harder exercises, while some of the simplest still seem to provide relief. Sorry that’s a poor explanation, typing on iPad.

Long term benefits most certainly, as long as you keep it up. Like diet, exercise, any lifestyle factors. Recovery is ongoing and dependent upon continued input.

I’m very surprised that he would not encourage these avenues. Astonished actually. Different things work for different people, whether it’s swimming,yoga, whatever. As stated above, movement is the absolute key for me. And I’ve never had full recovery suggested. Only management.
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Re: Neck and Shoulders.

Postby Mechanic-AL » Tue 30 Jun, 2020 9:53 pm

I guess I didnt question him enough but I just took it that a full recovery meant everything back where it was supposed to be, no residual pain or side effects and full strength and movement back to where it was. At least I'm hoping thats what he means !
To be honest it was a pretty quick question but when he didnt expand on the benefits of massage etc. I didnt really push the subject.
I can understand now from being in this situation how I have stopped doing certain movements ( using certain muscles ) because it triggers more pain.
I have always had a limited variety of stretches I do for 15 or 20 minutes everyday so I can appreciate where your coming from when you say physio and massage could help stretching things out and keeping different muscle groups moving. I've probably become a bit lazy/despondent being out of commission and should be doing more to help myself with regard to physio and massage. I hope I dont sound like a tight a#$@e but a few weeks ago I was haemorraging money dealing with this and when the Doc said massage etc was only a short term relief I was of the mind that it was just another thing to bleed the finances a bit more.

your advice has really been appreciated and I'll be sure to start looking into other ways to deal with this.

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