Old Fashioned ( Historical ) Walking

Bushwalking topics that are not location specific.
Forum rules
The place for bushwalking topics that are not location specific.

Re: Old Fashioned ( Historical ) Walking

Postby Moondog55 » Tue 10 Feb, 2015 2:49 pm

"Cups canteen" is the "New" nomenclature used by stores, we always called em " kidney " cups and mine usually goes with me everywhere.
Zippos were around too but they did not seem as popular as I remember seeing more of the trench lighters.
The black jungle gaiters were the gaiter of choice and are still a good bit of kit when sized well IMO
Never seen real wax matches here but Vesta? Common as anything in the UK when I was there, made them illegal here in 1936 didn't they?
Don't remember the Rosella meals at all
I do remember my mother baking what she called bush biscuits for us to take, when I was a kid; 1960-66; a derivation of Anzacs I guess as they were full of Oats
Ve are too soon old und too late schmart
Moondog55
Lagarostrobos franklinii
Lagarostrobos franklinii
 
Posts: 11066
Joined: Thu 03 Dec, 2009 4:15 pm
Location: Norlane Geelong Victoria Australia
Region: Victoria
Gender: Male

Re: Old Fashioned ( Historical ) Walking

Postby David M » Mon 23 Feb, 2015 7:38 am

I have a Paddy Pallin Rambler pack I am willing to donate to a good home if anyone wants it. Once you have used it for historical re-enactment perhaps longer term it could be given to a Paddy Pallin store where they display old packs and it will be preserved long term. Here are some pictures of one on someone else's web page. The pack is located in Prahran (Melbourne).

http://slightdecay.blogspot.com.au/2011 ... -lost.html
David M
Athrotaxis cupressoides
Athrotaxis cupressoides
 
Posts: 379
Joined: Wed 28 Mar, 2012 6:07 pm
Region: Victoria
Gender: Male

Re: Old Fashioned ( Historical ) Walking

Postby Moondog55 » Mon 23 Feb, 2015 7:56 am

Bring it to the Glamping week-end David, it may win you a $50- gift voucher from Paddys
Ve are too soon old und too late schmart
Moondog55
Lagarostrobos franklinii
Lagarostrobos franklinii
 
Posts: 11066
Joined: Thu 03 Dec, 2009 4:15 pm
Location: Norlane Geelong Victoria Australia
Region: Victoria
Gender: Male

Re: Old Fashioned ( Historical ) Walking

Postby Burnsy » Sat 28 Feb, 2015 6:58 pm

How would you like to spend the day with these strapped to the bottom of your feet. Original new old stock (never used) Paddy Pallin Boots. I reckon they are close to 2kg each!! Each cleat is Two parts that have been brazed together. Anyone got any idea of what these are worth, does anyone collect them?
Attachments
20150228_120808.jpg
20150228_120818.jpg
20150228_120741.jpg
20150228_120752.jpg
Burnsy
Atherosperma moschatum
Atherosperma moschatum
 
Posts: 63
Joined: Sun 01 Feb, 2015 10:18 pm
Region: Western Australia
Gender: Male

Re: Old Fashioned ( Historical ) Walking

Postby Allchin09 » Sat 28 Feb, 2015 9:58 pm

Wow, that's pretty special! How did you end up with them?
Tackling the unknown and the awesome one adventure at a time!

Check out my latest trips at http://aoacblog.wordpress.com/posts
Allchin09
Phyllocladus aspleniifolius
Phyllocladus aspleniifolius
 
Posts: 634
Joined: Fri 27 Apr, 2012 3:24 pm
Location: The Shire
ASSOCIATED ORGANISATIONS: Sydney Bush Walkers
Region: New South Wales
Gender: Male

Re: Old Fashioned ( Historical ) Walking

Postby Moondog55 » Sun 01 Mar, 2015 1:37 am

Those Tricounis are something special on their own
Got any in my size? Museum piece is right
Ve are too soon old und too late schmart
Moondog55
Lagarostrobos franklinii
Lagarostrobos franklinii
 
Posts: 11066
Joined: Thu 03 Dec, 2009 4:15 pm
Location: Norlane Geelong Victoria Australia
Region: Victoria
Gender: Male

Re: Old Fashioned ( Historical ) Walking

Postby thejungleisneutral » Mon 02 Mar, 2015 10:16 am

Epic boots Burnsy. Speak to Paddy Pallin corporate, they may buy them back lol

Speaking of boots, Rossi still makes the "Mulga" boot, which seems to be the closest thing to their walking boot from the 1960s and 70s.

Here's a review with some pics - http://bestleather.org/rossi-boots-4002 ... w-219-aus/
User avatar
thejungleisneutral
Nothofagus gunnii
Nothofagus gunnii
 
Posts: 41
Joined: Thu 30 Jan, 2014 8:40 pm
ASSOCIATED ORGANISATIONS: Australian Bushcraft Magazine
Region: New South Wales
Gender: Male

Re: Old Fashioned ( Historical ) Walking

Postby Burnsy » Mon 02 Mar, 2015 11:43 am

thejungleisneutral wrote:Epic boots Burnsy. Speak to Paddy Pallin corporate, they may buy them back lol


Now there is an idea, a swap for a nice store credit or gift card could be an idea. Would be better sitting in a Paddy Pallin museum cabinet than on my shelf. You got any contacts?
Burnsy
Atherosperma moschatum
Atherosperma moschatum
 
Posts: 63
Joined: Sun 01 Feb, 2015 10:18 pm
Region: Western Australia
Gender: Male

Re: Old Fashioned ( Historical ) Walking

Postby thejungleisneutral » Mon 02 Mar, 2015 12:51 pm

Burnsy wrote:
thejungleisneutral wrote:Epic boots Burnsy. Speak to Paddy Pallin corporate, they may buy them back lol


Now there is an idea, a swap for a nice store credit or gift card could be an idea. Would be better sitting in a Paddy Pallin museum cabinet than on my shelf. You got any contacts?


PM incoming
User avatar
thejungleisneutral
Nothofagus gunnii
Nothofagus gunnii
 
Posts: 41
Joined: Thu 30 Jan, 2014 8:40 pm
ASSOCIATED ORGANISATIONS: Australian Bushcraft Magazine
Region: New South Wales
Gender: Male

Re: Old Fashioned ( Historical ) Walking

Postby Burnsy » Tue 03 Mar, 2015 9:24 pm

Allchin09 wrote:Wow, that's pretty special! How did you end up with them?


Sorry Allchin, I missed this. I got them from a charity store, I recognised their significance and could not in good conscience leave them there for someone to buy and use for a costume or something. It was probably unlikely anyone would do that though as they were pretty pricey compared to everything else in the store so who knows how long they had been there or if they would have made their way to a skip bin at some stage after not selling. Either way, they have been saved now.
Burnsy
Atherosperma moschatum
Atherosperma moschatum
 
Posts: 63
Joined: Sun 01 Feb, 2015 10:18 pm
Region: Western Australia
Gender: Male

Re: Old Fashioned ( Historical ) Walking

Postby Allchin09 » Thu 05 Mar, 2015 10:51 am

There are some great finds in charity stores out there. Paddy Pallin in Pitt St Sydney has a collection of old gear, but I don't think much of it is on display. Rob Pallin, son of Paddy, may possibly be interested in them, however he probably has a collection of things like that himself!
Tackling the unknown and the awesome one adventure at a time!

Check out my latest trips at http://aoacblog.wordpress.com/posts
Allchin09
Phyllocladus aspleniifolius
Phyllocladus aspleniifolius
 
Posts: 634
Joined: Fri 27 Apr, 2012 3:24 pm
Location: The Shire
ASSOCIATED ORGANISATIONS: Sydney Bush Walkers
Region: New South Wales
Gender: Male

Re: Old Fashioned ( Historical ) Walking

Postby Burnsy » Thu 05 Mar, 2015 11:01 am

I have contacted paddy pallin allchin. I am sure they have lots of historic gear which is good it should be preserved. I doubt there are many other pairs knocking around in new condition that have never been worn though. These lack the intrinsic interest of a worn pair but are invaluable from a type study perspective.
Burnsy
Atherosperma moschatum
Atherosperma moschatum
 
Posts: 63
Joined: Sun 01 Feb, 2015 10:18 pm
Region: Western Australia
Gender: Male

Re: Old Fashioned ( Historical ) Walking

Postby Moondog55 » Sun 05 Apr, 2015 11:29 am

Just a quick question on period
Would anybody be interested in an 18th century trek?
Not a truly authentic reproduction due to cost, but a modern interpretation using near enough good enough clothes and gear
Ve are too soon old und too late schmart
Moondog55
Lagarostrobos franklinii
Lagarostrobos franklinii
 
Posts: 11066
Joined: Thu 03 Dec, 2009 4:15 pm
Location: Norlane Geelong Victoria Australia
Region: Victoria
Gender: Male

Re: Old Fashioned ( Historical ) Walking

Postby Jason Edwards » Mon 17 Apr, 2017 6:07 pm

Can anyone tell me a little bit about my pack. I believe it is an early Paddy Pallin. Any help would be much appreciated.
Attachments
Pack #1.jpg
Jason Edwards
Nothofagus cunninghamii
Nothofagus cunninghamii
 
Posts: 1
Joined: Mon 17 Apr, 2017 5:35 pm
Region: New South Wales
Gender: Male

Re: Old Fashioned ( Historical ) Walking

Postby Moondog55 » Mon 17 Apr, 2017 7:10 pm

More likely Bergans or Swedish surplus from the front
Ve are too soon old und too late schmart
Moondog55
Lagarostrobos franklinii
Lagarostrobos franklinii
 
Posts: 11066
Joined: Thu 03 Dec, 2009 4:15 pm
Location: Norlane Geelong Victoria Australia
Region: Victoria
Gender: Male

Re: Old Fashioned ( Historical ) Walking

Postby taswegian » Mon 17 Apr, 2017 10:04 pm

I'd imagine there should be a Paddy Pallin cloth badge if they made it.

I've still an Era tent and my original H frame.
The tent was a heavier duty, treated one.

Re old stuff. Anyone remember those lemon and lime crystals? Whatever it was called.
Fantastic stuff, mixed with water. I found it very refreshing. Mid 60's to 70's
User avatar
taswegian
Phyllocladus aspleniifolius
Phyllocladus aspleniifolius
 
Posts: 888
Joined: Tue 27 Jul, 2010 8:34 pm
Region: Tasmania
Gender: Male

Re: Old Fashioned ( Historical ) Walking

Postby Mark F » Tue 18 Apr, 2017 9:42 am

I think md is right about the pack. It seems to have a metal frame protrusion protecting the base and is a bit small for a Paddymade framed pack.

There was a drink powder called Tang but there is another name hiding in the dark recesses that I just can't quite get.
"Perfection is attained not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing more to remove".
User avatar
Mark F
Lagarostrobos franklinii
Lagarostrobos franklinii
 
Posts: 2332
Joined: Mon 19 Sep, 2011 8:14 pm
Region: Australian Capital Territory
Gender: Male

Re: Old Fashioned ( Historical ) Walking

Postby TerraMer » Tue 18 Apr, 2017 11:03 am

https://leagueofbushmen.com/
For all your old time bushwalking information and advice
thehappywalkblog.wordpress.com
Solo unaccompanied walk around Australia
Sponsored by The Australian Geographic Society
User avatar
TerraMer
Athrotaxis cupressoides
Athrotaxis cupressoides
 
Posts: 377
Joined: Thu 19 Apr, 2012 4:18 pm
Location: Australia
ASSOCIATED ORGANISATIONS: The Happy Walk
Region: Australia

Re: Old Fashioned ( Historical ) Walking

Postby slparker » Wed 19 Apr, 2017 3:53 pm

Moondog55 wrote:"Cups canteen" is the "New" nomenclature used by stores, we always called em " kidney " cups and mine usually goes with me everywhere.


'Cups canteen' comes from 'Cup-Canteen-steel', which is Army Q-store nomenclature.
It morphed into 'cups canteen' in the army vernacular - even insofar as calling a single cup:i.e. "hey pass my 'cups canteen' over, will ya".

In Army parlance everything is named for warehousing purposes. hence the euphonic and bizarre 'Coat- man- field' to describe a field jacket.

There is also the jocular, non-official name for the early "waterproof" nylon jacket supplied in the 80s: 'Coat-psychological'; so named because it wetted out in about a minute and therefore was a jacket supplied for psychological comfort only, rather than water resistance.
slparker
Athrotaxis selaginoides
Athrotaxis selaginoides
 
Posts: 1404
Joined: Fri 25 Apr, 2008 10:59 pm

Re: Old Fashioned ( Historical ) Walking

Postby Moondog55 » Wed 19 Apr, 2017 4:27 pm

True; but in my time in the CMF we all called them "Kidney-cups" a bit like us calling the "Pouch Basic extra large Tropical" a Bren gun pouch because that is what we put in them or our mess tins when not on parade
Ve are too soon old und too late schmart
Moondog55
Lagarostrobos franklinii
Lagarostrobos franklinii
 
Posts: 11066
Joined: Thu 03 Dec, 2009 4:15 pm
Location: Norlane Geelong Victoria Australia
Region: Victoria
Gender: Male

Re: Old Fashioned ( Historical ) Walking

Postby slparker » Wed 19 Apr, 2017 4:59 pm

Moondog55 wrote:True; but in my time in the CMF we all called them "Kidney-cups" a bit like us calling the "Pouch Basic extra large Tropical" a Bren gun pouch because that is what we put in them or our mess tins when not on parade


mess tins= dixies; never heard them called mess tins... seems like army parlance had evolved somewhat by the 80s-2000s

Off-topic but this is a fairly reliable, if excessively coarse, handbook of ADF slang:

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix ... tary_slang
slparker
Athrotaxis selaginoides
Athrotaxis selaginoides
 
Posts: 1404
Joined: Fri 25 Apr, 2008 10:59 pm

Re: Old Fashioned ( Historical ) Walking

Postby Moondog55 » Wed 19 Apr, 2017 5:12 pm

In my time "Dixies" were only found in the kitchens; hence "Dixie Bashing" being punishment labour washing pots etc.
Ve are too soon old und too late schmart
Moondog55
Lagarostrobos franklinii
Lagarostrobos franklinii
 
Posts: 11066
Joined: Thu 03 Dec, 2009 4:15 pm
Location: Norlane Geelong Victoria Australia
Region: Victoria
Gender: Male

Re: Old Fashioned ( Historical ) Walking

Postby Aztec » Fri 12 May, 2017 1:33 pm

as a relative youngster in this - what was being used tent-wise "back then"?
Cheers,
Richard

“Thoughts come clearly while one walks.” - Thomas Mann



User avatar
Aztec
Athrotaxis cupressoides
Athrotaxis cupressoides
 
Posts: 180
Joined: Mon 01 Sep, 2014 3:16 pm
Location: Glenorchy
Region: Tasmania
Gender: Male

Re: Old Fashioned ( Historical ) Walking

Postby Moondog55 » Fri 12 May, 2017 1:57 pm

Aztec wrote:as a relative youngster in this - what was being used tent-wise "back then"?


That really depends on what you could afford but almost all tents aimed at walkers were of rot proofed cotton of one sort or another.
Simple wedge or wall tents from Paddys and clones there-of but interesting tents came for the UK and the European continent, Blacks of Greenock/Campmoor/Jamert etc
My first "real" tent was a Blacks "Tinker" but before that I used a pair of old army jungle ponchos rigged as a shelter tarp
Ve are too soon old und too late schmart
Moondog55
Lagarostrobos franklinii
Lagarostrobos franklinii
 
Posts: 11066
Joined: Thu 03 Dec, 2009 4:15 pm
Location: Norlane Geelong Victoria Australia
Region: Victoria
Gender: Male

Re: Old Fashioned ( Historical ) Walking

Postby Aztec » Fri 12 May, 2017 2:29 pm

a lot of ex-military tents as well I assume?
Cheers,
Richard

“Thoughts come clearly while one walks.” - Thomas Mann



User avatar
Aztec
Athrotaxis cupressoides
Athrotaxis cupressoides
 
Posts: 180
Joined: Mon 01 Sep, 2014 3:16 pm
Location: Glenorchy
Region: Tasmania
Gender: Male

Re: Old Fashioned ( Historical ) Walking

Postby Moondog55 » Fri 12 May, 2017 3:42 pm

Aztec wrote:a lot of ex-military tents as well I assume?


Not for walking with.
Not that I ever saw anyway
Military tents of this era were big and very heavy and meant for the use of more than 1 or 2 people,
Ve are too soon old und too late schmart
Moondog55
Lagarostrobos franklinii
Lagarostrobos franklinii
 
Posts: 11066
Joined: Thu 03 Dec, 2009 4:15 pm
Location: Norlane Geelong Victoria Australia
Region: Victoria
Gender: Male

Re: Old Fashioned ( Historical ) Walking

Postby eggs » Fri 12 May, 2017 5:45 pm

I was in the Reserve many years ago and at that stage they used what is known as a Hutchi as a tent.
Effectively it is a small tarp. I would say it is about half the size of a one man tent.
Light and basic.

My wife used them for Operation Flinders where young kids at risk get a bit of real life experience.
User avatar
eggs
Lagarostrobos franklinii
Lagarostrobos franklinii
 
Posts: 10441
Joined: Fri 23 May, 2008 2:58 pm
Location: Para Vista, South Australia
Region: South Australia

Re: Old Fashioned ( Historical ) Walking

Postby Aztec » Fri 12 May, 2017 5:55 pm

Any photos of these old tents?
Cheers,
Richard

“Thoughts come clearly while one walks.” - Thomas Mann



User avatar
Aztec
Athrotaxis cupressoides
Athrotaxis cupressoides
 
Posts: 180
Joined: Mon 01 Sep, 2014 3:16 pm
Location: Glenorchy
Region: Tasmania
Gender: Male

Re: Old Fashioned ( Historical ) Walking

Postby taswegian » Fri 12 May, 2017 7:25 pm

Here's some from a previous era
IMG__50259798.JPG
Paddy Pallin southwester. My first Paddy H frame. Custom tent poles


JRS_walls005.jpg
Paddy Era 3 man (rot proof Japara - still going)


IMG__28833118E.JPG
my first Paddy Pallin H frame


IMG__38129127E.JPG
My second Paddy H frame. Looking rather worse for wear - Devil attack!


001_IMG__32986020.JPG
My early walking companion. But not with that pack
User avatar
taswegian
Phyllocladus aspleniifolius
Phyllocladus aspleniifolius
 
Posts: 888
Joined: Tue 27 Jul, 2010 8:34 pm
Region: Tasmania
Gender: Male

Re: Old Fashioned ( Historical ) Walking

Postby taswegian » Fri 12 May, 2017 7:37 pm

eggs wrote:I was in the Reserve many years ago and at that stage they used what is known as a Hutchi as a tent.
Effectively it is a small tarp. I would say it is about half the size of a one man tent.
Light and basic.

My wife used them for Operation Flinders where young kids at risk get a bit of real life experience.


Took young daughters to Lees Paddocks and youngest insisted on taking one, They were in Army Cadets so were comfortable with them.
They had a ball.
User avatar
taswegian
Phyllocladus aspleniifolius
Phyllocladus aspleniifolius
 
Posts: 888
Joined: Tue 27 Jul, 2010 8:34 pm
Region: Tasmania
Gender: Male

PreviousNext

Return to Bushwalking Discussion

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 18 guests