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Re: snake bite

Postby Nuts » Mon 19 Dec, 2016 9:16 am

Wouldn't the effectiveness result from the relative size of ones 'missus'? :)
What psi is enacted by a correctly applied compression bandage? how hard would those hose be to get on? Interesting!
I'd not carry them for purpose but my bow now has extra string! I like such new ideas, thanks!
I wonder why a product isn't available, compression stockings are. Maybe the limited application place (a leg) is all?
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Re: snake bite

Postby slparker » Mon 19 Dec, 2016 10:33 am

Nuts wrote:Wouldn't the effectiveness result from the relative size of ones 'missus'? :)
What psi is enacted by a correctly applied compression bandage? how hard would those hose be to get on? Interesting!
I'd not carry them for purpose but mine bow now has extra string! I like new ideas, thanks!
I wonder why a product isn't available, compression stockings are. Maybe the limited application place (a leg) is all?

It's not easy to have an elastic textile that can be applied easily yet still creates enough compression, let alone accommodating for different leg circumferences.
The nearest analogue would be a Ted stocking which provides very little compression, compared to a bandage, and needs to be sized for each person. They are not easy to apply correctly.
Much easier to wind a compressive bandage but in saying that studies have shown that they usually aren't applied with sufficient pressure by rescuers either.
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Re: snake bite

Postby Nuts » Mon 19 Dec, 2016 11:01 am

hmmm, yeah, I helped an elderly relative in to an anti-embolism stocking. If that isn't enough compression (it's obviously not but wouldn't be far off) I can't imagine getting anything tighter. Sizing is another issue again.

Easy to imagine that the immediate treatment of snakebite will evolve (eg. an inflatable tube, gauge like a BP cuff..), in an attended situation at least.

I'd be reaching for a bandage for sure. Definitely if it was an option or as an option to carry.
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Re: snake bite

Postby taipan821 » Mon 19 Dec, 2016 3:29 pm

has anyone used or have experience with snake-proof gaiters? I don't really need them for hiking but interested in wearing them during S.E.S. Searches (hey, something to stop me being a casualty)
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Re: snake bite

Postby photohiker » Wed 21 Dec, 2016 12:57 pm

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-21/m ... ld/8138790

77 year old bloke north of Cairns tried to kill a Taipan in his house. Wearing no shoes, the snake bit him between his toes.

The bloke is in hospital and in a bad way, and the snake is dead.
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Re: snake bite

Postby Overlandman » Wed 21 Dec, 2016 5:17 pm

Not a bite but be aware of your Christmas tree decorations.
Regards OLM

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-19/t ... on/8131764
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Re: snake bite

Postby photohiker » Tue 27 Dec, 2016 10:50 am

photohiker wrote:http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-21/man-critical-condition-taipan-bite-cairns-qld/8138790

77 year old bloke north of Cairns tried to kill a Taipan in his house. Wearing no shoes, the snake bit him between his toes.

The bloke is in hospital and in a bad way, and the snake is dead.


Finally passed away 6 days later.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-27/m ... nd/8149202
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Re: snake bite

Postby Overlandman » Mon 02 Jan, 2017 6:04 pm

From ABCNEWS

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-02/m ... te/8157906

Ambulance and emergency services are working to rescue a man believed to have been bitted by a snake in the Blue Mountains National Park.

It is believed the man was part of a group abseiling in the Whungee-Wheengee Canyon near Mt Wilson, about 100 kilometres north-east of Sydney.

Update

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-03/m ... ed/8158326
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Re: snake bite

Postby Overlandman » Fri 06 Jan, 2017 7:49 pm

One from Melbourne

https://au.news.yahoo.com/vic/a/3373025 ... ather-son/

A Melbourne father and his 11-year-old autistic son have been bitten by a tiger snake that slithered into their suburban home.
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Re: snake bite

Postby Overlandman » Mon 09 Jan, 2017 6:43 pm

Twice in a week at Queensland Australia Zoo

http://www.themercury.com.au/second-wom ... 8005191ac2
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Re: snake bite

Postby Robert H » Wed 18 Jan, 2017 9:27 pm

Snakes have had a busy day in Tas today biting two children. :shock:

'The Westpac Police Rescue Helicopter is conveying a 5 year old girl to the Launceston General Hospital with a snake bite. The incident occurred on a property in Garibaldi Road, Pioneer. She is in a stable condition. The snake involved was believed to be a tiger snake.'
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'Approximately 2.30pm on Wednesday 18 January 2017, the Westpac Rescue Helicopter was tasked to attend Hazards Beach on the Freycinet Peninsular to evacuate a 13 year old NSW boy with a suspected snake bite.
The helicopter was able to land close to the beach a short distance from the boy who was placed in a stretcher and carried to the heliopter with the assistance of the boys father, sister and other bushwalkers who had stopped to help.
He was flown to the Cenotaph in Hobart and transferred to the Royal Hobart Hospital in a stable condition.'
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Re: snake bite

Postby Overlandman » Thu 19 Jan, 2017 8:14 am

Another one added from the Huon area
From ABC

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-19/t ... ia/8193220
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Re: snake bite

Postby Overlandman » Tue 24 Jan, 2017 4:42 pm

One from Canberra

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-24/a ... te/8208064

A woman who survived a bite from a venomous brown snake in Canberra has heaped praise on the paramedics and hospital staff who treated her.

Tayla Ballard, 18, was bitten on the leg about 4:00pm yesterday while feeding her horses at Kambah in Canberra's south.
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Re: snake bite

Postby GPSGuided » Tue 24 Jan, 2017 8:17 pm

Has there been an increase in the incidents of these? Don't recall hearing as many in past years. Weather change?
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Re: snake bite

Postby Neo » Thu 26 Jan, 2017 8:04 am

A quiz from ABC on creepy crawlies. Happy Australia Day

http://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2017- ... gs/8204956
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Re: snake bite

Postby kjbeath » Thu 26 Jan, 2017 7:35 pm

GPSGuided wrote:Has there been an increase in the incidents of these? Don't recall hearing as many in past years. Weather change?


Apparently there are about 3,000 snakebites per year, with about 200-500 receive the antivenom, so they are just reporting them more often. http://www.anaesthesia.med.usyd.edu.au/ ... ebite.html gives some details.

It is nice knowing that if you are bitten, then there is only a 1 in 20 chance that you will need major treatment.

I did hear of someone who was bitten by a red-bellied black that aren't that venomous. It was in the evening, so they put the compression bandage on, and camped overnight. In the morning she felt fine, so they removed the bandage and walked out. At the car she felt very unwell and became a medical emergency at the hospital. So what they say in the first aid books is correct, the compression bandages work and once bitten don't move, get the emergency services.
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