Down hood

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Down hood

Postby Orion » Sat 04 Aug, 2012 11:18 am

Has anyone here sewn their own down hood?

I've been thinking about making one and would like to learn from others if possible.
I've never worked with down. About how much fill would be needed for a good fluffy hood?
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Re: Down hood

Postby Nuts » Sat 04 Aug, 2012 11:38 am

Theres a pattern on thruhiker iirc Orion (for adding to a jacket). Looked surprisingly complicated.
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Re: Down hood

Postby Orion » Sat 04 Aug, 2012 11:43 am

Nuts, do you have a link? I looked there first and didn't find anything.

I'm not surprised that it's complicated, which is why I'm asking for advice before I go off and reinvent the wheel.
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Re: Down hood

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Re: Down hood

Postby Nuts » Sun 05 Aug, 2012 7:53 am

The thru-hiker one- it's not specifically for down Orion, needs scaling up I guess. Try here, 3/4 posts down: http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin ... d_id=28863
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Re: Down hood

Postby Orion » Tue 07 Aug, 2012 8:05 am

Thanks for the links, you guys. I had actually already found those two (one links to the other) as they come up pretty quickly in a web search. I was hoping for some additional personal observations, problems to avoid, that sort of thing. Maybe it isn't that popular a project?
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Re: Down hood

Postby andrewa » Tue 07 Aug, 2012 9:20 pm

Orion, I've not made a down hood, but made other complicateddwn items, and that design looks pretty easy. I think the most important part of making a down item well is the final seam. Make sure it is pinned in place before sewing, as it is rare for everything to match up perfectly.

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Re: Down hood

Postby Orion » Wed 08 Aug, 2012 10:07 am

Thanks Andrew, it's nice to hear that it looks easy to you.

I'm worried about it fitting well, something that I suspect is less critical for a sleeping bag or even a jacket. What if you have big pumpkin head? Or if you're a pinhead? And I was expecting that the outer and inner layers would be different sizes, but maybe it doesn't matter that much. A one-size-fits-all pattern on the internet may not be quite right? I notice that commercial versions seem to only come in one size so I'm probably wrong. But I'll mock something up first to check it out.
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Re: Down hood

Postby Moondog55 » Wed 08 Aug, 2012 10:48 am

Differential cut will depend on the temperature expected, above -20 it probably isn't really needed as down hoods are so warm anyway. In fact I have a down hood here I have only used once as it is simply too warm. an ounce or two (25 -> 40 grams) of down is plenty, this old AlpSports hood has 5ounces, differential cut and 4deep baffles and is 4 inches thick. The hood from my MD Everest has a only 30 grams of down, only two minimal baffles no differential cut and is warm enough .
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Re: Down hood

Postby Orion » Thu 09 Aug, 2012 12:08 am

Good information, thank you Moondog.
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Re: Down hood

Postby Moondog55 » Thu 09 Aug, 2012 10:46 am

Just a note on patterns.
A 3 piece hood fits better than a 2 piece hood and the centre panel in a 3piece is where it is the easiest to make size adjustments. Down will be lighter but for a general purpose hood thinsulate may be easier to work with and about the same finished cost.
Hood patterns are easy to make and easy to size up or down, just add or subtract a few millimetres all around
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Re: Down hood

Postby beean » Tue 09 Dec, 2014 12:44 am

Does anyone have a copy of that down hood pattern? The link appears to be broken now.

I need to add a hood to my belay parka.

Any one got tips on sizing etc. as I'll need this to fit over a helmet.
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Re: Down hood

Postby Orion » Tue 09 Dec, 2014 2:35 am

The thru-hiker pattern is still online: http://thru-hiker.com/projects/hood_pattern.php
Those other two posted links still work for me. Or do you mean something else?

This is actually a timely resurrection of this thread. I didn't make that hood two years ago but made a couple of quilts in the meantime. A few days ago I pulled out the box containing the fabric and down I bought for the hood in 2012. I hope to have something in another week or two.
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Re: Down hood

Postby beean » Tue 09 Dec, 2014 4:52 am

I was referring to the zip file to download that contains the pattern.

I'll give the thru-hiker one a shot, I guess I can figure out where to put the drawcords and baffles. Can anyone recommend a good place to buy gore-tex or similar in North America? This hood needs to be fairly burly and water/wind proof.
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Re: Down hood

Postby Orion » Tue 09 Dec, 2014 9:18 am

Which zip file?
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Re: Down hood

Postby beean » Tue 09 Dec, 2014 12:27 pm

On the backpackinglight link one of the forum members links here http://gear.rezacovi.cz/whitney_hood.zip

Supposedly this file contains the pdf of the hood pattern but I can't get it to open.
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Re: Down hood

Postby Moondog55 » Tue 09 Dec, 2014 2:20 pm

Simple 3 piece hood pattern
WinRAR file and should open in W7 Automatically It does on my machine then warns me to pay for the program in 40 days
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Re: Down hood

Postby Orion » Tue 09 Dec, 2014 5:39 pm

Beean, I sent the pdf file to you via PM.
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Re: Down hood

Postby beean » Wed 10 Dec, 2014 1:13 am

Orion has come to the rescue.

Cheers mate, now my neck will no longer be caked with cold snow.
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Re: Down hood

Postby Moondog55 » Mon 15 Dec, 2014 1:37 pm

If you don't have time to make one I just found a LW hood from an old fashion parka that may help. Not really windproof or water resistant [ What do you expect it is from a Mossimo fashion garment] but could be improved with some Nikwax. Warm enough tho but I really do not need all this gear so available PIF
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Re: Down hood

Postby beean » Mon 15 Dec, 2014 3:22 pm

Appreciate the offer Moondog, but I'm in Canada so it might not be worth the shipping costs I think.
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Re: Down hood

Postby Moondog55 » Mon 15 Dec, 2014 3:42 pm

How urgent is it? I'll be there in 2016
for Deep Freeze, I can add it to my stash :OLOL:
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Re: Down hood

Postby beean » Sun 04 Jan, 2015 2:24 pm

How'd you go with your hood Orion?

I've been procrastinating and hoping winter will be over before I have to make mine...
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Re: Down hood

Postby Orion » Mon 05 Jan, 2015 3:52 am

Despite my best intentions I once again did not make the hood this year. At least I started this time, using two different patterns to produce mockups. But neither one inspired any confidence that it would fit properly. I lost faith, ran out of time, and really, I don't need a down hood anyway. Maybe I'll use the fabric and down for something useful, like down underpants.

Isn't it summer where you are?
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Re: Down hood

Postby beean » Mon 05 Jan, 2015 3:08 pm

Alas, mine has run the same course. I've also convinced myself that I don't need a hood, although I do.

Orion wrote:Isn't it summer where you are?


Nope, I've swapped 'bushwalking' for 'hiking' and am enjoying a warm Canadian Rockies winter.

Down undies sound luxurious, I'm wondering why the outdoor market hasn't capitalised on them yet. You could be on to the next hot new thing!
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Re: Down hood

Postby Orion » Mon 05 Jan, 2015 4:40 pm

Sorry to hear that you also folded. I was hoping that seeing a photo of yours would inspire me to try again.

The Canadian Rockies in winter does sound a bit chilly. And dark.
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