What's your base pack weight?

[Onestepmore]

Out of interest, what are the general base pack weights people are carrying?

Whats is the breakdown of
/pack
/shelter system
/sleep system
/cooking system
/extra clothing (ie not that which you'd wear while walking)
/personal items (eg toiletries, first aid and repair kit etc)
/water treatment and storage
/electricals such as phone, GPS, PLB, light batteries etc
/other random things

Using the above definitiions

'Base pack backpacking the mass of the backpack and the gear inside - not including consumables such as food, water and fuel
light backpacking base weight less then 9.1kg
ultralight backpacking base weight less then 4.5kg
super-ultralight backpacking base weight less then 2.3kg
extreme-ultralight backpacking base weight less then 1.4kg'

Lets give a few scenarios, as people generally have differnet gear set ups:

a) A weekend overnight trip with on-trail walking in spring/summer/autumn
b) A 5 day walk in above seasons
c) A three day winter trip in mountainous country with the possibility of winds and bad weather

If you want to include a differnt scenario - go ahead and elaborate

edit - added water treatment

[Strider]

Pack 1410g
Shelter 1680g
Sleep 2461g
Cook 415g
Clothing 2133g
Electrical 266g
Other 971g
Safety 327g
Navigation 93g
Personal 326g

Total 10082g

Sleeping bag is next on the list to lighten up!

[Lindsay]

Mine is 7788g total. As soon as I figure out how to cut and paste the breakdown I'll post it.

[Bluegum Mic]

Hmmm will be tough as my gear is in storage at present due to our move but I have guestamates of most items

Pack-
TNF alteo 35- 1.3kg (can easily do an overnighter with this).
Golite Pinnacle- ~900g.

Shelter-
Bearpawwd cuben mid ~600g
Aarn pacer 1 for 4 season stuff 1.3kg
Dreamhammocks dangerbird ~700g with
TRG prospecting tarp 500g
Oh and golite SL5 for family duties

Sleeping
Exped synmat UL7 <500g
Rab top bag 0* 500g
Enlightened Equipment Rev X 10*F quilt for cold stuff (can combine with top bag for really cold stuff) ~900g (I think...I cant remember)
Leighlo 20*F underquilt ~450g
DIY synthetic underquilt with climashield apex..good to about 0* ~450g

Cooking
Packafeather XL metho stove plus vargo titanium 750ml pot. Cant recall weight but not much
Primus eta solo 365g
Fuel obviously depends on trip
Matches/sml bic lighter
Ti caldera cone
Small silicon mits for handling hot things

Ive got a sil bag full of my medical suplies and another with toiletries. Ive never weighed them but they are not too bad (mind you comprehensive..I would never skimp on first aid stuff and am guilty of carrying enough for others).

Clothes (weights unknown I'll update later)
Patagonia down sweater or montane prism synthetic
Montane featherlite smock
OR aspire jacket
Mountain Hardwear epic pants
OR radiant fleece
Thermals to sleep in (weight will vary on season)
If really cold also berghaus fleece pants.
Undies
Bald rock down beenie
Buff (normal in 3 season, merino in colder weather...mind you this is usually worn so prob not counted).

GPS is an garmin dakota 20
Spot 2 and also depending on the trip will also carry a plb

So I will pretty much use any combo of the above in various setups...just depends on the trip.

[Julies]

Out of interest, what are the general base pack weights people are carrying?

Whats is the breakdown of
/pack. 1600. Osprey aura. Would like something lighter, but need the comfort
/shelter system. 600/1200. Tarptent stratospire, shared or alone
/sleep system. 450. Neo air trekker large torso
500. Katabatic quilt
150 silk liner
/cooking system. 200. Pot and burner
300. Bowl, cup spoon
/extra clothing (ie not that which you'd wear while walking)
850. Puffy, longs, long sleeve, beanie
/personal items (eg toiletries, first aid and repair kit etc)
250. I take too much first aid. Can't help it. Nurse.
/electricals such as phone, GPS, PLB, batteries etc
180. GPS and headlamp
120. Water containers

With maps and randomness it usually comes out at about 6 kg. closer to UL than light, but not as close as I would like!

Eta, usually weekends/ few days in SA winter

[tasadam]

I will be doing my own in time, not that I think I will even make entry level.
Interested to learn, however.

Also interested to see whether there's a plan for equipment lists for say a (up to) 2 week walk in Tasmania, which is more my thing.

[cooee]

Pack 2.5kg
Shelter 3.5kg
Sleep 1.5kg
Cook 800g
Clothing 2.1kg
Electrical 350g
Other 1.2kg
Safety 680g
Navigation 250g
Personal 700g

total 13.5kg

[ofuros]

Sub-tropical enviroment
Solo, off track / on track
Mainly overnighters & weekenders.

725g PACK (50litre pack)
1750g SHELTER & SLEEP ( Madtree Tarseer hammock & sleeping bag all-in-one system, Tarp & skins)
265g COOK (600ml pot + top & insulation,folding spoon, burner, waterproof matches)
1025g CLOTHES (Polyprop top & cut down leggings,puffy jacket,rain jacket, Beanie & gloves)
180g WATER STORAGE (3 litre bladder for drinking on track, 600ml gatorade bottle for cooking, I just boil water if it's suspect)
370g PERSONAL (First aid, washcloth)
340g ELECTRICAL (Phone, Camera + 3 spare batteries)
200g MISC (Map, compass, penknife, paper & pencil)

4855g TOTAL

My casual pace (stopping for photo ops, skinny dips, stirring up a jackjumpers mounds etc etc) & mileage (around 8-15km)
hasn't changed over the years....just the overall pack weight on my hips & legs.

[ULWalkingPhil]

Pack Contents:

Packing :
Gossamer Gear Kumo BackPack inc stuff sack 440.0 g
Total: 440.0 g

Shelter :
Warbonnet BlackBird Hammock 666.0 g
Warbonnet 1.5m Tree Straps x 2 85.0 g
HammockGear 4-Season Cuben Tarp 193.0 g
Easton 9" Pegs x 4 55.0 g
4 x Titanium Pegs 48.0 g
GuyLines x 2 18.0 g
Total: 1065.0 g

Sleep :
Warbonnet 3-Season Yeti Underquilt 356.0 g
HammockGear 20F Burrow Top Quilt 598.0 g
Blue Foot Pad 16.0 g
HammockGear Down Pillow 114.0 g
Total: 1084.0 g

Hydration :
Sawyer squeeze Filter 100.0 g
Evernew 1.5L Bludder 36.0 g
2 x 1L plastic bottle's 80.0 g
Total: 216.0 g

Cooking :
BatchStovez Dry Baking Combo 154.0 g
BatchStovez Carbon Felt Windscreen 27.0 g
Solo Lighter 41.0 g
Green Foldable Breakfast Bowl 38.0 g
PackaFeather XL Stove 38.0 g
MSR Foldable Fork 12.0 g
MSR Foldable Spoon 13.0 g
Total: 323.0 g

Clothing (Packed) :
Thinsulate Beanie 66.0 g
Montane Terra Top 167.0 g
Montane Slipstream Windbloc Jacket 82.0 g
Bridgedale Liner Socks 33.0 g
Frogg Toggs Driduck Poncho 237.0 g
Mont-Bell EX Light Down Jacket 160.0 g
Macpac Long Merino 166.0 g
Total: 911.0 g

Toiletries :
Toilet Paper 38.0 g
HairBrush 16.0 g
Washing Cup 8.0 g
Dr Bronners Pepermint Soap 18.0 g (consumable)
Sportslick 25.0 g (consumable)
Katmandu Toothbrush 15.0 g
First Aid Kit 60.0 g
Total: 180.0 g

Gadgets :
Twonav Sportiva GPS 127.0 g
Twonav Spare battery 22.0 g
Petzl E-Lite Headspot 28.0 g
Total: 177.0 g

Other :
Leatherman StyleCS 41.0 g
Total: 41.0 g

Base Pack Weight: 4.3 kg

[stry]

Ahh bugger !!

Now I'll have to find my list - and I'm going to lose big time !!

Something that I haven't seen mentioned is the degree to which lightening one's load enables one to do more, and to do it for longer.

Perhaps not as important to younger walkers with good knees and backs, but a few kilos less weight (and using trekking poles) can make bushwalking possible way past the point at which physical degeneration would have ended the game many years ago.

[ofuros]

I will be doing my own in time, not that I think I will even make entry level.
Interested to learn, however.

Also interested to see whether there's a plan for equipment lists for say a (up to) 2 week walk in Tasmania, which is more my thing.

Will be interested to see what you come up with tasadam....planning a little week/week & a half, tasmanian winter wander myself.

[phan_TOM]

My gear is out in preparation for a walk next weekend so, spurred on by this thread, I thought I'd finally get out the kitchen scales and put everything in an excel worksheet, see how much pain I can expect it all weighs. Pretty much what I'd expect & not that bad considering the camera stuff and the amount of clothing. Normally I'd carry far less clothing (and I may this time) but it's cold out west and the same trip last year saw me freeze my bollocks off, *&%$#! that I'm going to enjoy myself this time!

Pack
OP McMillan 3000
Shelter
MLD DuoMid with mesh inner, CF pole & pegs 1250
Sleeping
Prolite plus & WM Sycamore 1600
Cooking
Fire Maple stove, 900ml pot, cup, lighter,
knife, spoon, chux 1145
Water
2 x 1L bottle & 3L Platypus 430
Clothing carried
Raincoat, fleece hoody, polypro thermals,
Lightweight pants, wool balaclava, down jkt,
boxers, socks, thinsulate gloves, thongs 3390
Camera
40D, 4 batteries + accessories & tripod 4400
Gadgets
GPS (& spare batteries), headlamp, compass,
map, phone 560
first aid/survival/hygiene/repair 500

Totals roughly 16.3kg
Normally I just take a raincoat and clean shorts/t-shirt to sleep in and 'if' I left the camera at home (mmm, no not going to happen ) It'd be close to 9.1kg

I suppose I should add that I plan on going for 3 nights/4 days and I expect minimum temps of zero but prepared for colder.

[Onestepmore]

Good stuff guys
I can't do my list until a few weeks time, as I have just spent the last few days tidying up the spare room (otherwise known as the walking gear and clean laundry overflow storage room) in preparation The Mother's impending vsit for the next week and a half, then we're off to the Gold Coast for a conference hubby's going to. So all my gear is packed away.
I'm interested in the breakdown, as in the past I've simply weighed my whole pack once it's loaded up, water food etc, or I've just weighed individual items out of interest. It's been about 14/15kg last few trips, but that's with my bigger pack, and carrying extra clothes for my son, plus food for more than just me. I'd like to think I'd be under 9kg base weight....but that may be wishful thinking
I want to get myself organised and use a spreadsheet/software app like the one's I've found. I started to enter stuff into Gram Weenie but got distracted by someting else and never finished....

[Clusterpod]

Pack:
Arc'teryx Bora 95 - 3500

Shelter System:
Mountain Designs Neutrino - 1300

Sleep system:
Macpac Tempest 700 - 1300

Cooking system
MSR Pocket Rocket - 85
Empty gas (a constant) - 119
Aluminum billy - 280
knife/spoon/fork set - 50
plastic mug and bowl - 110

Extra Clothing (ie not that which you'd wear while walking)
Arc'teryx Theta (rain jacket) - 535g
Arc'teryx Gamma AR (softshell) - 695g
Icebreaker 200 tops and bottoms - 350g
1x extra socks and jocks -350g

Personal items (eg toiletries, first aid and repair kit etc)
First Aid, TP, suncream, repellent etc 450g

Water treatment and storage
Steripen Adventurer 1st Gen - 130g
Kathmandu 2 litre bladder - 280
3 x Nalgene Tritan - 543

Electricals
12 x AA batteries - 276
4 x AAA - 46
Garmin Etrex Hcx - 156
SE Phone - 85
Kindle - 247
Black Diamond Headtorch - 85

Camera
Nikon D800 - 900
3 x EN-EL15 Batteries (D800) - 225
200mm f/4 macro lens - 1180
28mm f/2 - 355
SB600 flash - 300
Manfrotto 580B monopod and custom head - 110
Memory cards and waterproof case - 150
Lowepro Toploader 75 AW (modified) - 825

Crikey - 13.377 KG

I guess without camera gear its just in the "light" category. But I don't walk without camera gear:D

[nq111]

Interesting spread of weights here from others.

For me tropical / subtropical conditions (in kg):

Pack 2.18
Shelter 1.57
Sleep 1.49
Cook 0.974
Clothing 1.83 (1.37kg worn)
Electrical 0.495
Other 0.385
Safety 0.77
Navigation 0.19
Personal 0.433

Total 10.32kg (8.95kg carried). I could save a bit (e.g. I take a synmat where a bulkier ccf mat is lighter and as warm. Plus I carry a shellite stove (gas would be fine) and a ratsac (stainless mesh bag to keep anything chewable safe at night - anyone seen a tropical white-tailed rat? ). So could lose about 1kg with what I already have but where I choose the heavier alternative. Not much weight saved by sharing with others in a party though (the above is a solo walk list).

Add about 0.5-0.6kg/day food and 6kg water per day with no water supply (up to maximum two days from water). 6l of water per day is actually a bit hairy in some situations (need to be careful).

Cold weather (e.g. mountains with snow or snow potential).

Pack 2.22
Shelter 4.632 (#%$#off bombshelter!)
Sleep 1.69
Cook 0.995
Clothing 3.61
Electrical 0.475
Other 0.553
Safety 1.44
Navigation 0.24
Personal 0.74

Total is 16.59kg (solo weight). With savings from shared items with with walking with others that is about 11.83kg. Then minus 1.94 worn clothing / footwear and only 1kg heavier than the tropical set up Not much more in savings for me to feel safe (i won't go away from carrying the bombshelter for example).

Add about 0.7kg /day food and usually carry no more than 2l of water at any one time (it is usually pretty abundant in Tasmania etc).

My first time down the overland track as a teenager my starting pack was weighing in around 33-34kg

So I guess I am at the lightweight end of not being lightweight?

** Forgot to add, the only significant change from overnight to about 5-6 days for me is food, fuel and maybe water (oh, and TP). Clothes and gear is the same.

[Orion]

So much information here, so I'll slim my post down a bit.

For a one week walk in benign conditions my base weight is 4.0 kg.
I'm kind of new to the UL game though.

[forest]

Excuse the formatting as it's straight off my spreadsheet. Normally I'm around 4 - 4.5kg's baseweight. Overnighters maybe a little less but not much. Depends on my shelter too. My Hammock system is about 400g heavier than the Hexamid but much more comfortable. I'll do up a gear list with that and heaps less gear than I took to Larapinta later today.
This is from my Larapinta walk a few weeks ago and I was covered from the warm daytime temps and would have been warm at night even if it dropped to -5/-8°C (it didn't get lower than -2°C, most other nights I was too hot)
This list for me has a heap of extra's I wouldn't normally take but it's still light. Give me a break eh I had 10 days walking solo so had to talk some luxuries.......
I could make this list seem lighter but what's the point if it's actually carried anyway.
You want a list, here's a list.
Backpack Gear List - Larapinta Trail, 15-26th June 2013
Pack & Stuff Sacks
Black Diamond, Z-Pole Distance FL Walking Poles Carried
Z Packs Arc Blast Hybrid Cuben Fibre Backpack - 52 Ltr 405
Z Packs Hipbelt Pouches x 2 48
Z Packs Shoulder Pouches x 2 22
Sunglasses Case/Bag 10
Z Packs Cuben 0.51oz/y Small Stuff Sack (3 Ltrs) 5
Z Packs Cuben 1.46oz/y Food Bag 36
Z Packs Cuben Pillow Dry Bag (1.0oz/y 49
Exped Shnozzle Dry Bag (Need this to pump up UL Downmat, Doubles as a pack liner) 68
643
Gadgets
Spot Messenger PLB (attached to shoulder harness) 154
Nokia C5 (Work phone with Telstra - Better coverage) 90
Kindle in small bubble wrap pouch (Maps, Notes and Books to read) 245
Canon S95 Camera 203
"Ultrapod" Camera Tripod 46
738
Shelter / Sleeping
Z Packs Hexamid Solo Plus with Beak & Twin Cuben Bathtub Floor 458
Rubber pole feet x 1 (For use in Hexamid Shelter) 10
3" Pole extention for Hexamid 35
Z Packs Cuben Stake Pouch 4
Sand parachutes (x 6) 48
2mm Dynaglide soft shackles (x 6) - Attached to Sand parachutes 10
Aluminium 6" BA "V" Stakes (x 3) 33
1/8" Titanium 6" Tent Pegs (x (Needed for Woodstove too) 48
HG 20°F Custom 3 Season "Burrow" top quilt with straps 590
Exped UL Downmat XS 48"x20" & Cuben Stuff Sack 412
Gossamer Gear sit pad 250mmx400mm (Doubles as under feet insulation when sleeping) 32
1680
Clothing
4" Wrist Sweat Band Wearing
Large Straw Broad Brimmed Hat Wearing
Inov-8 295 Trail Runners US size 10.5, EU 44 (Black / Green) Wearing
Injini Toe Socks Wearing
MontBell Stretch Gaiters Wearing
RAB Meco 120gsm LS Shirt, Blue & Gray Medium. Merino 65% / Poly 35% Wearing
Take Five Spandex Long Pants (Skins) Wearing
Light Kmart running shorts with pockets Wearing
Outdoor Research Hellium II Jacket (Large) 182
Z Pack's Cloud Kilt, with small extension 52
Montbell Windshirt - Tachyon Anorak Jacket 67
Montbell Windpants - Dynamo Pants 76
Blackrock Gear Down Vest (Large - Black 7d fabric, 2.2oz of 900 fill) 124
Goosefeet Down Sleeves (Black 7d fabric, 0.8oz 900 fill per sleeve) 80
Under Armour Baselayer 2.0 Long Sleeve Top, Very light grid fleece (Medium) 163
Under Armor Cold Gear Baselayer 2.0 Leggings (Medium) 143
Merino / Poly fluffy socks (Good cold weather sleeping socks) 75
Buff Headband with 3" section of 100wt fleece sewn on as ear band. 40
Blackrock Down Beanie (Large) 25
Possum / Merino Gloves 29
MLD eVent rain mitt's 29
Vinyl Plastic Hat Rain Protector 27
Bread Bags for Feet 10
1122
Cooking
Evernew 900ml Wide Pot with Lid (Fit's Ti-Tri Sidewinder internally) 109
Ti-Tri Sidewinder Caldera Cone (EV900ml Fit) 37
Ti-Tri Inferno Woodburner Insert Cone, Mesh Base & Spacer Insert 37
Gram Cracker Esbit Burner (Wood Backup) 3
2 Esbit Blocks 29
Vasoline/Cotton Bud Fire Lighters in film canister 24
Mini Bic Electric Lighter 16
Light My Fire "Mini" Flint 13
Small Z Packs Cuben Stuff Sack for Evernew 900ml Pot 4
600ml Coles Water Bottles x 2 (Fits into shoulder pouches) 55
Platypus 1.0 Ltr Soft Water Bottles (empty) x 2 42
Platypus 2.5 Ltr Soft Water Bottle (empty) 35
Small Wax Paper Cup (For Coffee & Soup) x 2 30
Titanium long handled spoon (Fit into back country meal bags) 11
Chucks Wipe x 2 (One green - food cleaning, one orange - body washing) 20
Mini Whisk (For Latte / Hot Chocolate Sashets) 5
Large ziplock bag for garbage 5
475
First Aid & Emergency Gear
Zebralight H31, Including Battery 41
Zebralight Headlight Band and Rubber Holster 28
1 meter white LED xmas light (Nice tent/camp lighting) 28
2 AA Lithium Batteries (For LED xmas light) 30
Exped Downmat repair kit & patches 13
Toilet Paper 17
Cut down toothbrush 5
Dried Toothpaste Dots 3
Ear Plugs x 2 pair 4
New Havalon scapel blade 3
Mylar repair tape 0.5 meter 3
54" Blue cuben repair tape. 9
Mini pegs x 4 1
Bobie pins x 4 1
Small sewing kit (5m thread and needle) 1
Super glue mini tube 6
1 meter - 3mm bungie cord 8
5 meters - 1.25mm Z Line spectra line 7
5 meters - 2.2mm Z Line slick dyneema cord 18
First Aid - Pressure Bandage 46
Small Bodyglide stick 10
Small Anti Chafe Cream 10
First Aid - Bandaid's, Tape, Patches 15
First Aid - Nurophen x 18 12
First Aid - Panadol x 18 12
First Aid - Nurophen plus Codine x 15 12
First Aid - Diarrhae pills x 4 3
Victornox Mini Swiss Classic SD Pocket Knife 21
Lip Balm (Wrapped with 1m of race tape 17
55ml Suncream 66
450
Extra's / Misc:
Larapinta Maps, covered in clear contact (Each A3 sheet, get second map at Ellery Creek) 28
Larapinta Track Notes - Nathan's version. (Contact covered 1/2 A4) 6
Sea to Summit Bug Head Net 27
Spare Canon S95 Battery x 2 40
Spare 8g memory card 7
$60 cash in $10/$20 notes 5
Driver's License & Credit Card's 15
128

Total Weight 5236

[forest]

This one's a UL hammock list. I've used this set-up plenty of times around and above 0°C in NSW (Normally forcasted weather above 5°C lows). But for the sake of details lets say it's my trail walking spring/summer/autumn list for an overnight walk, with rain possible, hence the eVent jacket and spare dry long sleeve shirt for camp.

Pack & Stuff Sacks
Z Packs Arc Blast Hybrid Cuben Fibre Backpack - 52 Ltr 405
Z Packs Hipbelt Pouches x 2 48
Z Packs Shoulder Pouches x 2 22
Z Packs Cuben Pack Liner (18"x36" Flat, Drawcord top, 0.51oz/yd Cuben) 25
Z Packs Cuben 0.51oz/y Large Stuff Sack (12.3 Ltrs) 11
511
Gadgets
Spot Messenger EPIRB 136
Canon S95 Camera 203
339
Shelter / Sleeping
WBBB Hammock 1.0 DBL 572
6 Foot Tree Straps 86
1/8" Titanium 6" Tent Pegs (10) 60
HG 30°F Custom Phoenix UQ 349
HG 30°F Custom Burrow TQ 447
HG 4season Cuben Tarp with lines 264
8mm CCF footpad / seat 35
1155
Spare / Camp Clothing
Montane Air eVent Jacket 322
Z Pack's Cloud Kilt, with small extension 52
Montbell Windpants - Dynamo Pants 76
Blackrock Gear Down Vest 124
Under Armour Baselayer 1.0 Long Sleeve Top 116
Merino Long Pants, Mountain Designs - 150g/sm 130
Goose Feet Socks 61
Goose Feet Outer Shell Socks (camp shoes) 54
Blackrock Down Beanie (Large) 25
Buff Headband with 3" section of 100wt fleece 40
Possum / Merino Gloves 29
MLD eVent rain mitt's 29
1058
Cooking
Evernew 900ml Wide Pot with Lid (Fit's Ti-Tri Sidewinder internally) 109
Ti-Tri Sidewinder Caldera Cone in Tyvek Sleeve (EV900ml Fit) 37
Small Z Packs Cuben Stuff Sack for Evernew 900ml Pot 4
Gram Cracker Esbit Burner 3
Mini Bic Electric Lighter (RED) 16
Light My Fire "Mini" Flint 13
Small Wax Paper Cup 13
Large Wax Paper Cup 17
600ml small water bottle (x 2) 48
Platypus 1.0 Ltr Soft Water Bottle (x 2) 42
Victornox Mini Swiss Classic SD Pocket Knife 21
Titanium long handled spoon (Fit into back country meal bags) 11
Mini Whisk (For Latte / Hot Chocolate Sashets) 5
Chucks 10
Large ziplock bag for garbage 5
354
First Aid & Emergency Gear
Petzl e light 29
Repair Kit 32
5 meters - 1.25mm Z Line spectra line 7
35ml Suncream 33
Small Bodyglide stick 10
Bug Spray (Small Spray Bottle) 32
Small Toothpaste Dots and cut down toothbrush 9
Toilet Paper 17
First Aid - Pressure Bandage 46
First Aid - Bandaid's, Tape, Patches & Tablets 30
Emergency Blanket 41
Ear Plugs 2
Lip Balm 17
305
Extra's / Misc:
Driver's License, ID and some cash 12
Car & House Key 34
46
Total 4426 Grams

[wayno]

um , i dont know exactly
8 to ten kilos depending on the time of year without a tent if i'm hutting it, which is what i usually am.

[forest]

I must admitt in NZ I usually end up lugging around 5-7 kgs when using the huts too. Normally too cold and wet to skimp on gear over there. Actually it's more a wet and windy thing, dry windy cold = , wet windy cold = or dead.
Fleece and Synthetic Jackets are your friend most of the time I find above the treeline.
Besides I can hide in my tent/hammock and shiver all night and still say I'm UL here.......
In NZ you'd just be the silly ozzy in the corner shivering next to the french backpackers....... that everyone doesn't want to make eye contact with incase they ask to borrow more gear they didn't bring.

[ULWalkingPhil]

That's a very nice list forest.

[stry]

Very thorough Forest !!!

[forest]

Very thorough Forest !!!

That's a very nice list forest.

It's a bit anal eh....

But it means I can armchair plan, then pack in about 15 minutes as all I need to do is grab the gear out as the "thought" side of the trip is done. That's my way of saying I have more time at "work" to do this stuff and less time at home with family life / house to bugger around (other than weighing things here and there )

[Onestepmore]

Hehe Forest, I bet you had fun doing all that
Very comprehensive

[forest]

I just have one massive spreadsheet with every item of gear or stuff I might need on it. It's been about a 3 year process to get the total list done. All I do is delete the rows I don't need and leave the ones I want. Then print. Its pretty straightforward now its all there. Only takes about five minutes of deleting gear and a re save under that trip. A lot of the time I might not change a thing and just re print a previous list.

[Gippsmick]

For 3 day, 3 season trip my weights are as follows:

Base Weight 5283
Food & Water 4950
Pack Weight 10233
Clothes worn 3114
Skin Out Weight: 13347

Check out my full gear list here: http://mickbeckers.com/gear-list/

I've found this completely adequate for three seasons in lots of different terrain, from coastal walks to the Australian Alps to long off track scrub bashed through fire regrowth. This sort of gear wont suit everyone but it is perfect for me. It's not quite UL, more like LW based on how these things are being defined but who really cares - they are just labels right. UL is more of an attitude. I like Andrew Skurka's use of the term Ultimate Hiker.

I've found this completely adequate for three seasons in lots of different terrain, from coastal walks to the Australian Alps to long off track scrub bashed through fire regrowth. This sort of gear wont suit everyone but it is perfect for me.

[Gippsmick]

Phil/Forest, great work. You've definitely set the benchmark for a full gear like. Both are nice measures for others to compare against. I'll have to work on breaking my kit down further to show all individual items instead of showing the total weight of say a first aid kit.

[Zone-5]

Average about 6-9 kg as I'm mostly a day hiker with a couple of overnighters on the Heysen trail.

[Strider]

Pack 1410g
Shelter 1680g
Sleep 2461g
Cook 415g
Clothing 2133g
Electrical 266g
Other 971g
Safety 327g
Navigation 93g
Personal 326g

Total 10082g

Sleeping bag is next on the list to lighten up!

Well I certainly lightened up my bag by going from 1516g to 614g

But now I've upgraded to an Aarn pack added a few luxuries the new breakdown is:

PACK 2497
SHELTER 2011
SLEEPING 1766
COOK 855 (including fuel)
CLOTHING 2616
ELECTRICAL 292
OTHER 1550
SAFETY 430
NAVIGATION 124
TOILETRIES 376

TOTAL 12517g

[Snowzone]

Having just packed for South West Tassie, I have a base pack weight of approx 13kg before food, fuel and water. This is everything I need for all types of weather.