Tents/Shelter

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Ultralight Bushwalking/backpacking is about more than just gear lists. Ultralight walkers carefully consider gear based on the environment they are entering, the weather forecast, their own skill, other people in the group. Gear and systems are tested and tweaked.
If you are new to this area then welcome - Please remember that although the same ultralight philosophy can be used in all environments that the specific gear and skill required will vary greatly. It is very dangerous to assume that you can just copy someone else's gear list, but you are encouraged to ask questions, learn and start reducing the pack weight and enjoying the freedom that comes.

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Base pack backpacking the mass of the backpack and the gear inside - not including consumables such as food, water and fuel
light backpacking base weight less than 9.1kg
ultralight backpacking base weight less than 4.5kg
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extreme-ultralight backpacking base weight less than 1.4kg

Re: Tents/Shelter

Postby mrpotter » Tue 06 May, 2014 1:09 pm

ULWalkingPhil wrote:I can imagine how awesome that view must be from your shelter Mark F.

I use a Mountain Laurel Designs Cuben Fiber DuoMid shelter for those times I can't take my hammock.


Ahh yes - http://www.mountainlaureldesigns.com/sh ... cts_id=105

That probably looks a better option than the Tarptents because its lighter.

Do you have the "Optional InnerNet"? Is it necessary to obtain bug protection?

I could probably go the Solo but I'd personally prefer a bit of excess room.
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Re: Tents/Shelter

Postby Strider » Wed 07 May, 2014 11:16 am

mrpotter wrote:That probably looks a better option than the Tarptents because its lighter.

Lighter doesn't automatically mean better. Tarptents will be heavier because they are a full double skin tent, not just a shaped tarp like the Duomid.
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Re: Tents/Shelter

Postby bigbreath » Thu 08 May, 2014 10:02 pm

I'm loving my Six Moon Lunar Duo Outfitter (the sil-nylon version). Comfortably fits 2 people, a palace for 1 person and weighs 1671grams (without stakes, which I usually make in the field). Has built in no-seem-um net and bathtub floor. I seam-sealed it myself, but in hindsight, after buying the seam-sealer and spending hours on it, I would have been better off paying the $20 for the folks at Six Moons to do it. This tent has worked well for me all year round in the Blue Mountains. Although it's single skinned and can condensate if I keep the vents closed, a good old garbage bag over the get end of my sleeping bag keeps it dry.

I'd be interested if anyone has tried out the Gatewood Cape? Weight looks good, and one wouldn't have to bring any additional rain gear.
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Re: Tents/Shelter

Postby GPSGuided » Thu 08 May, 2014 10:22 pm

MarkF has one. Do a search on Gatewood Cape.
Just move it!
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Re: Tents/Shelter

Postby dancier » Sat 10 May, 2014 6:54 am

bigbreath wrote:I'd be interested if anyone has tried out the Gatewood Cape? Weight looks good, and one wouldn't have to bring any additional rain gear.


I'm partial to the wild Oasis because it has bug netting around the bottom, not sure about the Cape's because they blow around in the wind and get caught on tree's etc. It's something that would be worth experimenting with.

http://www.sixmoondesigns.com/tarps/WildOasis.html
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Re: Tents/Shelter

Postby bigbreath » Sat 10 May, 2014 8:49 am

Thanks GPSGuided and dancier for your helpful info. I think the wild oasis is worth looking into as well. That net skirt should solve a lot of mozzie problems. Anyone reckon leeches are resilient enough to push through the net skirt?

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Re: Tents/Shelter

Postby Mark F » Sat 10 May, 2014 10:22 am

The Gatewood Cape and Wild Oasis are exactly the same size/shape - the Gatewood cape gets a hood and arm slits and a pocket to pack it into. I think that leaches would just slide under the netting so I would use the Serenity net inner with it. It is quite common to use a belt around a cape in strong wind to minimise the flapping etc. - the hand slits in the Gatewood also help with this. The Gatewood is also $40 cheaper!?
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Re: Tents/Shelter

Postby bigbreath » Sat 10 May, 2014 1:25 pm

Thanks Mark F I never realised they were the same specs. It'd be good to narrow it down to these two for extra weight gains over my current setup. I'm just a bit concerned about the durability of the Gatewood when bush bashing (if needed). The last el cheapo poncho I had was shredded when bush bashing.

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Re: Tents/Shelter

Postby dancier » Tue 13 May, 2014 7:42 pm

Mark F wrote:The Gatewood is also $40 cheaper!?


Another option is the Gatewood and Borah side zipper bivy or the Borah 5,5*9 Tarp and bivy.

http://www.borahgear.com/sidebivy.html
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Re: Tents/Shelter

Postby bigbreath » Tue 13 May, 2014 8:01 pm

Thanks dancier. That looks very practical and the bivy itself would act nicely as an extra waterproof layer so one wouldn't have to worry about getting their sleeping bag wet. Can also eliminate a ground sheet in the process... hmm some things to mull over... :-)

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Re: Tents/Shelter

Postby Ellobuddha » Wed 11 Jun, 2014 12:52 pm

Heavyweight bombproof - Hilleberg Jannu

Lightweight - MLD duomid

Love the duomid for the variety of options. Groundsheet/Bivy/Innernet - can play with setup depending on destination and forecast. love it with a CF Z packs floor and a bag cover from Terra Rosa. Tossing up a MLD superlight bivy as an option, as good with tarp too.

I just got this double inner with cuben sides off another member and set it up. Its brilliant. The high cuben sides will keep any rain,snow etc at bay. With full peg set (12) and pole jack its 1600 grams which isnt light but its a four season double wall, with great ventilation. Obviously with this innernet option it isnt "lightweight" but the Duomid is really versatile. I
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