Lightweight all-in-one wet weather gear / shelter thoughts

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Lightweight all-in-one wet weather gear / shelter thoughts

Postby Allchin09 » Fri 17 Jan, 2014 1:59 am

Hi,

I've been thinking about saving weight in the shelter and wet weather gear department of my equipment. My thought is that instead of having a separate poncho, ground sheet and fly, why not just make one all-in-one piece of equipment!

Does anything like this exist already?

I reckon if you had a poncho that was longer and wider than normal, you could attached a few tie points and cords to it. That way, it would be long enough to cover your whole body length when laying under it, and if the width was right, you could tuck the excess under your roll mat to serve as a ground sheet.
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Re: Lightweight all-in-one wet weather gear / shelter though

Postby wayno » Fri 17 Jan, 2014 4:57 am

theres comparative reviews of them here, you might need to pay for the article. I cn't tell , I"ve subscribed to the site

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Re: Lightweight all-in-one wet weather gear / shelter though

Postby Strider » Fri 17 Jan, 2014 7:08 am

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Re: Lightweight all-in-one wet weather gear / shelter though

Postby Mark F » Fri 17 Jan, 2014 8:35 am

+1 on the Gatewood Cape. It was my first UL shelter and it worked well for 3 seasons use - I still take it on some day walks. You can add a net inner for bug protection. Only issue is that if you are not tall the rear of the cape can drag on the ground - a couple of press studs to fold up the back solves this issue.

One of the nicest things is that in wet weather you can slide your pack off under the cape, sit down and eat lunch in remarkable comfort.
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Re: Lightweight all-in-one wet weather gear / shelter though

Postby perfectlydark » Fri 17 Jan, 2014 11:54 am

Allchin I am in the process of making this exact item. Ill put pics up in the diy thread once complete (dont hold your breathe waiting though)
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Re: Lightweight all-in-one wet weather gear / shelter though

Postby GPSGuided » Fri 17 Jan, 2014 11:55 am

perfectlydark wrote:Allchin I am in the process of making this exact item. Ill put pics up in the diy thread once complete (dont hold your breathe waiting though)

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Re: Lightweight all-in-one wet weather gear / shelter though

Postby wayno » Fri 17 Jan, 2014 12:03 pm

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Re: Lightweight all-in-one wet weather gear / shelter though

Postby GPSGuided » Fri 17 Jan, 2014 12:05 pm

LOL!
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Re: Lightweight all-in-one wet weather gear / shelter though

Postby Allchin09 » Fri 17 Jan, 2014 1:19 pm

Wayno - I'm not a subscriber, maybe one day when I have the money however!

Strider - That looks pretty cool, I don't know how it would work without a hiking pole as I don't walk with them. Do you know?

PerfectlyDark - I bit the bullet this morning and ended up making my own fly / poncho combo. Below are some photos of it.

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All rolled up


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Laid out flat


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The gaffer tape tie points and fishing line guys


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The slit for my head when used as a poncho, which is taped over when used as a fly


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Poncho mode - No need for a hood when you have a big hat! (hopefully...)


The dimensions are 1.2m x 2m and it weighs around 230g. I'm going to use it on a overnight bushwalk this weekend, so I'll let you all know how it goes when I return.
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Re: Lightweight all-in-one wet weather gear / shelter though

Postby GPSGuided » Fri 17 Jan, 2014 1:35 pm

Nice Allchin09! May I ask what material was that? Also, why did you size it for above the knees? Wouldn't that also be a little short in tarp shelter mode?
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Re: Lightweight all-in-one wet weather gear / shelter though

Postby Allchin09 » Fri 17 Jan, 2014 2:00 pm

The material was just Grunt builders plastic from bunnings. I think it was 100um thick and came in a 2m x 5m roll.

The decision on length was made after a bit of mucking around and testing. I wanted to make it as short as possible to save weight, and 2m seemed to be the shortest that I could fit under in a slightly curled up position, with enough leeway either side to keep me dry.
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Re: Lightweight all-in-one wet weather gear / shelter though

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Re: Lightweight all-in-one wet weather gear / shelter though

Postby perfectlydark » Fri 17 Jan, 2014 2:07 pm

Well done! Thats a lot more sophisticated than my plans
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Re: Lightweight all-in-one wet weather gear / shelter though

Postby Allchin09 » Fri 17 Jan, 2014 2:44 pm

Gusto - That's exactly what I was after! Thanks for the link.
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Re: Lightweight all-in-one wet weather gear / shelter though

Postby Walking_addict » Fri 17 Jan, 2014 4:08 pm

I have the ultrasil type from paddy, a little more cost but well worth the weight saving.
Really only used on the one trip to png 5.5 years ago, but will no doubt use it again for more temperate trips (just haven't done any since !)

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Re: Lightweight all-in-one wet weather gear / shelter though

Postby Allchin09 » Sun 19 Jan, 2014 7:22 pm

Just came back from testing my creation as a fly. It worked well, but it wasn't much of a test as there wasn't any rain or wind!
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