Evernew Ti pot + clickstand question

[MicheleK]

I have a 900 ml Evernew pot that I use with the Clicktstand system that I am really happy with. I'd like to add a another pot, ideally the 0.6 L. I'd like to fit the Clikstand components inside the pot, but not sure that it fits.

I have e-mailed Evernew and asked them. They said that the 0.6 L fits snugly in the 0.9 L and the walls are 0.3 mm thick.
I e-mailed Clikstand and asked them. They said they don't have experience with the 0.6 L pot, suspect that the stand may stick out a little from the pot preventing the lid closing.

Does anyone know or even know of a supplier of Evernew pots in Melbourne so I can take my set up in and test it out? I would hate to buy something that I can't use the way I want to.

Any advise/suggestions much appreciated.

[RonK]

Looking at mine I suspect it'll be just a tad too small.
Also it's not certain if the windshield will fit between the two pots (the handles will take some of the space).
A safer option may be to go for the 1.3 L pot.

I'll be interest to know whatever you discover.

[hikin_jim]

I've got a 0.6L Evernew and a Clikstand. Let me see if it will fit. I don't think that it will fit, but I will check.

HJ

[hikin_jim]

I just checked. There's no way a Clikstand can be fitted into a 0.6 L Evernew pot. I should be clear that I have a short, wide Evernew pot and the titanium Clikstand. I'm not sure if Evernew makes a tall, skinny pot, but just to be clear I have the short, wide one.

I can post a photo if you like, but it's not even close.

HJ

[hikin_jim]

Well, no one replied, but just in case, here are some photos.

Evernew 0.6L pot with Clickstand. It just doesn't fit.


No part of it fits.


HJ

[RonK]

We believed you Jim.

But the pics are good.

An extra pot would have been nice, but not at the expense of bulk. I've been getting along fine with one.

Evernew do make a tall pot, and so does Snow Peak, but I think the squat pot works better in titanium, and for me it definitely packs better.

[RonK]

Hey Jim - you've got me thinking now. The Clickstand stove won't fit in the 0.6 L pot, but my Kovea Spider will - maybe a gas canister too. Ta

[hikin_jim]

I just tried it, Ron, and the Spider fits fine, but a canister will not fit -- even if there's absolutely nothing else in the pot. I mean the canister if alone almost fits, certainly the pot is wide enough, but you can't close the lid. It's something on the order of a cm too tall. I used an MSR 110g canister. A Primus 220g will fit in terms of width, but it is far too tall.

HJ

[RonK]

Hmmmmm - well, the exchange rate has killed that idea. $100 is a steep price for a pot I don't really need.

[Bubbalouie]

Hmmmmm - well, the exchange rate has killed that idea. $100 is a steep price for a pot I don't really need.

Have a look at aliexpress.com and the toaks pots, they're reasonably well made and very cheap.

If you go to toaksoutdoor.com they will sell a few things not on aliexpress.com. The 650ml pot fits a gas cannister, small burner, folding spork, flint and a chux wipe pretty comfortably.

In any case the above are some cheaper ways to buy titanium cook wear.

[RonK]

Toaks pots look excellent value, but they won't nest in a 0.9 L Evernew pot, which is what we are discussing in this thread.

I already have a nesting set of Snowpeak Ti tall pots, but it's squat (wider based) pots that work best in Ti.

[Bubbalouie]

Toaks pots look excellent value, but they won't nest in a 0.9 L Evernew pot, which is what we are discussing in this thread.

I already have a nesting set of Snowpeak Ti tall pots, but it's squat (wider based) pots that work best in Ti.

Ah, I didn't realise they didn't nest, I neglected that they're about the same diameter (97mm OD it seems), for some reason I was thinking the 900ml "squat" pot had a 115mm OD.

That said, still under $90 for a "squat" set: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/TOAKS-2i ... 19931.html

(Not trying to push anything, just trying to help find cheaper options is all).

Anyway, best of luck.

[MicheleK]

HJ,
Thankyou so much for the post and photos to prove that the Clikstand doesn't fit in a short and squat 600 ml Evernew pot. It was wishful thinking on my part anyway. I will stick with my one pot system. I have a food dehydrator and a vacuum sealer, so I will play around with rehydrating in the bag. My main aim of a second pot was to be rehydrating the sauce part of a meal in something other that the cup I use for tea/coffee, not that that is that problematic anyway.

cheers,
Michele

[hikin_jim]

Your very welcome.

HJ

[Franco]

Michele,
If your aim is to have a re-hydrating and nesting container, there is another way to do it.
Get a polypropylene food container to nest your pot inside it.
Something like this :

that pot is very similar in size to your 900ml pot (a few mm wider,about the size of your folded handles) and that food container is about 80g, around the same weight as a Ti 600ml pot w/lid.
Easy to hold and easy to pile clothing/sleeping bag on top for insulation when re-hydrating (Dutch oven style)
You could take your 900ml pot to Woolworth or K Mart to find a container to suit.

[neilmny]

Well, no one replied, but just in case, here are some photos.

No part of it fits.


HJ

What if you just snip or grind those corner bits off so that it does fit?
Does the corner play a structural part?

[Franco]

You might just have an easy solution there.
Looking at photos of those bits it appears that the corners are not that important to the structural integrity of the stand.
Would be worth asking the folk at Clikstand first.

[RonK]

Well, no one replied, but just in case, here are some photos.

No part of it fits.


HJ

What if you just snip or grind those corner bits off so that it does fit?
Does the corner play a structural part?

You seem to have ignored the first photo - the most significant problem is the sides.

[MicheleK]

Those corners are important - they click into the rest of the stand, so you can't grind them off. And the rest of the stand fits even less into the pot. I'd say it's simply not possible to put the Clikstand in a 600 ml Evernew pot.

On last weeks trip to Kosciuszko NP I trailled a different approach. At home I made a very tasty chicken and pomegranate stew. I dehydrated it and sealed each portion into a rectangular bag with the vacuum sealer. At camp, I cut the top off, filled with boiling water - this food grade plastic is designed for use with boiling water. I folded the top over and used a bobby pin to hold in place. About 45 mins later i cooked the carbs (in this case pasta) in the pot. I then spooned the sauce out of the bag and into the pot of pasta. This worked great. Happy camper with probably no need for an extra pot!

[Franco]

Typical !
So cutting corners is not a good idea ?

Anyway, I too found out that those vacuum seal bags are ideal for re-hydrating because they do take boiling water without releasing any taste (that I can detect)
When I used to make the full meal via dehydrator/vacuum bags that is what I did too.
I used to start with a bag several centimeters bigger than I needed so that back home I could wash them and re-use them a few times.
You need to be careful with pasta because it can puncture them (so I have been told...)

[MicheleK]

I hadn't thought about re-using the bags - excellent suggestion.

I have had a few bags puncture with sharp bits of dry food. In the picture you can see that the bag i made is about twice the height of the width. If i had a punctured (and a loss of the vacuum seal) bag that i needed to re-hydrate in, i simply used turned it the other way and used the other half of the bag for rehydrating so that it wouldn't leak.

[Snowzone]

Hi Michele, it looks a good set up you have. What is the weight of the clickstand, windshield and your pot combined? How stable do you find it when cooking and stirring your pot? Presumably it burns as efficiently as a trangia?

[MicheleK]

Snowzone, the weight is:
Clikstand burner stand and windshield 77 g
Evernew 900 ml pot 110 g
Trangia methylated spirits burner 120 g
Total = 307 g

I could have used the Evernew titanium burner to reduce weight, but that doesn't have a screw on lid or simmer ring, features which I like, so I use a Trangia burner.

The set up is very stable, even on grassy vegetation as in the above photo. At other campsites during the trip I found a flat rock to cook on. I have found this set up a good Trangia alternative, I have always been a fan of the stable, safe Trangia system, but it is too heavy and bulky.

[Snowzone]

Snowzone, the weight is:
Clikstand burner stand and windshield 77 g
Evernew 900 ml pot 110 g
Trangia methylated spirits burner 120 g
Total = 307 g

I could have used the Evernew titanium burner to reduce weight, but that doesn't have a screw on lid or simmer ring, features which I like, so I use a Trangia burner.

The set up is very stable, even on grassy vegetation as in the above photo. At other campsites during the trip I found a flat rock to cook on. I have found this set up a good Trangia alternative, I have always been a fan of the stable, safe Trangia system, but it is too heavy and bulky.

Thanks for that, I think I will investigate this option further. I still love my Trangia as I prefer to cook rather than just boil water. But the weight starts to drag you down after awhile.

[RonK]

The set up is very stable, even on grassy vegetation as in the above photo. At other campsites during the trip I found a flat rock to cook on. I have found this set up a good Trangia alternative, I have always been a fan of the stable, safe Trangia system, but it is too heavy and bulky.

Thanks for that, I think I will investigate this option further. I still love my Trangia as I prefer to cook rather than just boil water. But the weight starts to drag you down after awhile.

I use the Denali Titanium combo, which weighs just 226gm. Add to that a Trangia simmer ring. I don't miss the screw cap at all.

The Evernew burner is like a jet compared to a Trangia burner.

It's not so much about the weight of the Trangia but the bulk. This thing is not just light, it's tiny.

[MicheleK]

Ron,
You don't find it a nuisance to drain the fuel each time? I suppose it would only be twice daily for me. Three times if i get keen at lunchtime. I am intrigued by your comment of the Evernew burner being better than the Trangia. Why would that be? More holes? I am intrigued and may need to modify my system, which is also the Titanium Denali, like yours, but with Trangia burner.

[hikin_jim]

The Evernew burner does burn hotter and it does boil water faster (at least that's its reputation; I haven't personally verified this), but is faster better? A faster stove generally will burn more fuel. One typically has to carry around twice as much alcohol by weight as canister gas to do the same cooking. Having a faster burner would only increase the amount of fuel a person would have to carry.

HJ

[RonK]

Ron,
You don't find it a nuisance to drain the fuel each time? I suppose it would only be twice daily for me. Three times if i get keen at lunchtime. I am intrigued by your comment of the Evernew burner being better than the Trangia. Why would that be? More holes? I am intrigued and may need to modify my system, which is also the Titanium Denali, like yours, but with Trangia burner.

I've become quite adept at judging the precise amount of fuel. I can only recall one time that I've underestimated. A few times there has been a tiny amount unused when I've had the simmer ring on to make porridge but it was so little I've just tipped it out.

The Evernew burner has level marks inside, and I've found I only use 30ml of fuel to boil enough water to make a cup of soup and rehydrate a meal - about 1 litre I guess.

The burner has two rows of holes, and once it warms up I think the fuel vapourises. It gives a little pop then really gets going.



I dunno about it using more fuel - not more than a Trangia burner anyway. If anything I think it uses less.

[hikin_jim]

I dunno about it using more fuel - not more than a Trangia burner anyway. If anything I think it uses less.

That would be an interesting experiment if you had the time: to boil equal amounts of water, one with a brass Trangia and then one with a titanium Evernew burner and see how much fuel each one required. My money is on the Trangia for using less fuel.

HJ

[ofuros]

Clikstand with windscreen....Trangia titanium 1lt pot.
Down in the garage..in 'perfect' conditions. Obviously, boil times will be longer out in the bush.
30ml Metho
500ml water

Trangia burner : - Brass body
Rolling boil @ approx :- 5mins 39secs
Length of boil :- 3mins 7secs
1st flame to flame out around :- 8mins 54secs

Evernew burner :- Titanium body
Rolling boil @ approx :- 5mins 58secs
Length of boil :- 2mins 57secs
1st flame to flame out around :- 9mins & 9secs

Not a lot between them here in the sub tropics.......


*Modified...to include 3 boils each results & then averaged.