Evernew Ti pot + clickstand question

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Re: Evernew Ti pot + clickstand question

Postby hikin_jim » Sun 11 Jan, 2015 3:44 pm

Which boiled the longest? That would tell us a lot about efficiency. If the duration of the boil were longer for either one or the other, then we'd know which were the more efficient.

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Re: Evernew Ti pot + clickstand question

Postby ofuros » Sun 11 Jan, 2015 5:53 pm

Just for the record.....I am never ever this pedantic. :wink:

Using the Clikstand & Windscreen
30ml Metho
500ml water
3 boils each

Trangia burner average length of boil time 3mins 7secs
Evernew burner average length of boil time 2mins 57sec

Like I said, not much between them.......

Tatonka & Esbit also have copycat burners simular to Trangia's.

Esbit burner :- Brass body
Rolling boil @ :- 6mins 15secs
Length of boil :- 3mins 4secs
1st flame to flame out :- 9mins 20secs

Tatonka burner :- Stainless Steel (Strange one this. Never came to a Vigorous rolling boil. Gentle Simmer boil only)
Rolling boil @ :- 11mins 15secs
Length of boil :- 7mins 33secs
1st flame to flame out :- 19mins 8secs

Left to Right :-
Esbit, Trangia, Tatonka
Front :- Evernew
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Re: Evernew Ti pot + clickstand question

Postby Snowzone » Thu 22 Jan, 2015 5:05 pm

Thanks for being so pedantic Ofuros. Your testing gave me the confidence to go ahead and put the order through for a clickstand. It came today and lives up to its weight specs so I've just cut 400g weight out of my pack. Now where will I head to try it all out. :D :D
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Re: Evernew Ti pot + clickstand question

Postby ofuros » Thu 22 Jan, 2015 6:04 pm

My pleasure Snowzone......glad to help. :wink:
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Evernew Ti pot + clickstand question

Postby RonK » Fri 23 Jan, 2015 12:31 pm

ofuros wrote:Left to Right :-
Esbit, Trangia, Tatonka
Front :- Evernew


Hope someone finds the info useful. :lol: :roll:

The Esbit simmer ring looks interesting. How well does it fit on the Evernew burner vs the Trangia simmer ring?
I've tried the Tatonka but it's not a good fit.
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Re: Evernew Ti pot + clickstand question

Postby ofuros » Fri 23 Jan, 2015 1:32 pm

Hi Ron,
Not as loose as the tatonka & the esbit fold out handle is a handy innovation. The simmer ring is the same size as the original trangia & i seem remember modifying a couple of trangia rings to suit the evernew burner to try and get it to simmer without much success.
I'll have look for you when I fly back from work on Wednesday.

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Re: Evernew Ti pot + clickstand question

Postby Joomy » Sat 31 Jan, 2015 8:56 pm

Not strictly germane but I wonder about all these fancy alky set ups. The can can stove I just made myself brought 500ml of water to a rolling boil in about 4min 40 seconds (about 2.5 minutes of rolling boil with 20ml of Metho). Plus it acts as its own stand and weighs 6 grams. Of course, that's indoors at 17C with no breeze, but it makes me wonder about the appeal of other designs. Are they better in the wind? In the cold?

Edit: I should say that this was with a lid on the pot. Not sure if Ofuros' tests were done with lids or not.

Edit 2: Another test with 30ml of metho. 1 minute warm up, rolling boil at about 6 minutes (5 minutes heating time), rolling boil ends at 11 minutes and stove burns out completely at 11:20.

Edit 3: 2nd test: 30 ml metho. 1 minute warm up. Rolling boil at 6:05, boil ends at 11:15, burn out 10 seconds later.
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Re: Evernew Ti pot + clickstand question

Postby corvus » Sat 31 Jan, 2015 9:36 pm

Why do you muck about with Metho when you can get a cheap gas stove that will perform so much better?? did years with the metho Trangia till I saw the light :)
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Re: Evernew Ti pot + clickstand question

Postby Joomy » Sat 31 Jan, 2015 9:51 pm

Corvus, I was with you until I started experimenting with this cat can stove. The way I see it for mild weather, shorter trips, for 1-2 people, this thing is going to be hard to beat at 6 grams and 60g of fuel per day (might be optimistic but seems reasonable). I think the question will be how cold it has to get before this little stove can't boil a sufficient amount of water with 1 fill (about 35ml)
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Re: Evernew Ti pot + clickstand question

Postby ofuros » Sun 01 Feb, 2015 8:49 am

RonK wrote:The Esbit simmer ring looks interesting. How well does it fit on the Evernew burner vs the Trangia simmer ring?
I've tried the Tatonka but it's not a good fit.


The Esbit & Trangia are exactly the same size, shape & fit. Maybe from the very same mould.
There not as loose fitting as the tatonka, not snug though, maybe a couple of mm of play.
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Re: Evernew Ti pot + clickstand question

Postby ofuros » Sun 01 Feb, 2015 8:52 am

Joomy wrote: Edit: I should say that this was with a lid on the pot. Not sure if Ofuros' tests were done with lids or not.


Without a lid....
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Re: Evernew Ti pot + clickstand question

Postby ofuros » Sun 01 Feb, 2015 9:02 am

corvus wrote:Why do you muck about with Metho when you can get a cheap gas stove that will perform so much better?? did years with the metho Trangia till I saw the light :)


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Re: Evernew Ti pot + clickstand question

Postby RonK » Sun 01 Feb, 2015 10:00 am

ofuros wrote:
RonK wrote:The Esbit simmer ring looks interesting. How well does it fit on the Evernew burner vs the Trangia simmer ring?
I've tried the Tatonka but it's not a good fit.


The Esbit & Trangia are exactly the same size, shape & fit. Maybe from the very same mould.
There not as loose fitting as the tatonka, not snug though, maybe a couple of mm of play.

Thanks for that - I can actually get the Trangia simmer ring to work quite well on my Evernew burner, but the neat folding handle of the Esbit version is quite appealing.
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Re: Evernew Ti pot + clickstand question

Postby Joomy » Sun 01 Feb, 2015 5:36 pm

ofuros wrote:
Joomy wrote: Edit: I should say that this was with a lid on the pot. Not sure if Ofuros' tests were done with lids or not.


Without a lid....

Well that could explain that.
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