corvus wrote:Supertramp wrote:To give you all an idea as to weather I have UL gear, my overnight pack or multi day pack weighs 4-8kg, 4kg is the minimum if I want to move fast, 8 kg is if I want to take a fishing kit, solar kit, chair & many other luxuries. If I want to I can pack this into a smaller bag & remove what is not needed.
If I culled my kit I could go SUL easily, so please don't start comparing who has the better (or lighter) kit.
As an old fart you have me totally confused ? regardless of your UL gear what do you eat ,drink for a Day walk? I would have at the least 875g water and bottle and 250gm food so there goes 1Kg of your 4Kg then add ipood ,10 sheet pack tissues ,PLB = + 285g that would leave me with around only 2.9Kg for the rest of your UL gear ? what do you recommend I purchase that I can lighten the load on my old knees with a daypack and raincoat to achieve your 4Kg please.
Others have already stated that's the pack weight, less consumables (water, food, fuel) this is done so people get an idea of what other peoples gear weighs as some people have higher consumable needs.
To give you an idea:
http://www.zpacks.com/backpacks/arc_blast.shtml
http://www.zpacks.com/shelter/solplex.shtml
http://www.zpacks.com/quilts/sleepingbag.shtml
http://www.zpacks.com/accessories/wpb_jacket.shtml
http://www.zpacks.com/accessories/wpb_pants.shtml
http://www.zpacks.com/accessories/goosehood.shtml
http://www.phdesigns.co.uk/ultra-down-pullover-k-series
http://www.cascadedesigns.com/therm-a-r ... te/product
http://www.exped.com/usa/en/air-pillow-ul-l
http://snowpeak.com/collections/cookwar ... =671149681
http://zenstoves.net/BasicPressureBurner.htm
http://www.seatosummit.com.au/products/ ... pha-light/
http://www.kannadmarine.com/us/safelink-solo-plb
http://www.bcf.com.au/online-store/prod ... mendations
I hope this gives you an idea of how you can remove some weight from your kit, all you would then need to do is add the extras, first aid, toilet paper, spare clothes etc.