RonK wrote:Hpwever since you are looking at cuben fibre I though these Hyperlight tents I stumbled over recently may be of interest. The gotcha is they are made for use with trekking poles, so may be of more interest to walkers, but it should be easy enough to source some suitable tent poles.
Mark F wrote:A couple of comments. I find my Solplex (580g with poles and pegs) has enough room for me and my gear. I much prefer a side opening tent as it allows over half the vestibule to be used for gear storage compared to a front opening tent. With a front opener for one the majority of the vestibule ends up being a squeeze way. In the Solplex I have pretty much all my gear apart from shoes and water bottles.
Aushiker wrote:I did look at these but the prices where just too high; more expensive that Zpack which is really my limit. For example the one you linked to is the outer only at US$700 just for the outer, then you need to add the inner.
damoprz wrote:Aushiker wrote:I did look at these but the prices where just too high; more expensive that Zpack which is really my limit. For example the one you linked to is the outer only at US$700 just for the outer, then you need to add the inner.
That is not correct, The HMG Echo II is $700 US for tarp, beak, inner and stuff sack. The tarp by itself is only $320 US. Still more expensive than Zpacks, but the build quality is great (I have one) and cat cut tarps are super easy to pitch.
Aushiker wrote:The Zpacks Duplex weighs in at 759g complete and costs the same base price at $931.
Aushiker wrote:Thanks for the correction. I had looked at the UltraMid 2 and assumed the same applied to the HMG Echo II. From what I can find out the weight is 856 grams plus poles (need to check the requirements there) plus stakes (?). The cost excluding poles and stakes is $931. The Zpacks Duplex weighs in at 759g complete and costs the same base price at $931.
Whilst they seem to have one hell of a reputation, it is probably the second heaviest option and most expensive in my list so far. Zpack also has a good reputation and costs less and weighs less it seems ...
Stew63 wrote:Can you buy the beak separately? So just a beak and tarp setup.
RonK wrote:Aushiker wrote:The Zpacks Duplex weighs in at 759g complete and costs the same base price at $931.
The Zpacks Duplex seems impressive - until you see it packed and consider how you would carry it in bikepacking bags.
damoprz wrote:Yeah, the inner they provide is way too heavy. I currently just use a groundsheet, and plan to get a bug bivy for summer. If an inner tent is a must for you, it is probably not the best option.
Aushiker wrote:
I looked at this option with an MLD Solomid and a Duomid using either a MLD SuperLight or Zpacks Spash Bivy and there does not appear to be much in it weight wise. In fact the Solmid came up heavier with a bivy where as the Duomid had savings worth considering.
I haven't done the maths with a HMG but.
Aushiker wrote:The quoted pack size is 13 x 7 compared to your ProTrail at 12 x 4 which is really not that bad when you consider it is a two person tent versus a single person tent; the physical nature of more material means more pack size.
In my case it will be going on the left Salsa Anything Cage HD so whilst pack size is important without a doubt, weight is too.
damoprz wrote:I use a ~40 gram polycryo groundsheet, no bivy currently as the Echo II is huge and with the beak on I am not to worried about splash reaching me in the middle. My summer bug bivy is going to be MYOG and very minimal, something like S2S nano mosquito net, which is ~80 grams, so I am thinking 100 grams. This will make my tarp + bugscreen ~550g + pegs. The MLD bug bivy is only ~ 141 grams.
Eljimberino wrote:I have a zpacks splash bivy if you would like to check it out Andrew.
RonK wrote:As for the Protrail - it definitely fits inside a BBD Anything Bag, for carriage in an Anything Cage.
Mark F wrote: I can get my Solplex, quilt, mat and cooking gear in one leaving the other for food, clothes etc.
jakeyarwood wrote:Some excellent info here. Andrew, I'm just curious - what lead you away from the Locus Gear Khufu as spoken of in a previous thread? I'm yet to purchase my new ground system is all and am still undecided.
Aushiker wrote:Not sure on pack size but, so need to investigate that further.
Mark F wrote:I am much happier with the Solplex compared to my Hexamid plus for room and ease of entry. I attribute the feeling of extra room to the use of two poles rather than one. This causes the slope of the roof to be less over the sleeping area as it is only sloping along the length rather than the width. The entry is taller than the Hexamid, without checking it is the same as the Duplex.
I am also 180cm and have no issues. I tend to put most of my gear up the head end for ease of access. My pack also goes at the head end to lift my pillow a bit although I am still playing around with the best placement of the pillow.
My only negative is a personal one. I prefer an inverted T format or L for the door zips.
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