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A place to chat about gear and the philosphy of ultralight. Ultralight bushwalking or backpacking focuses on carrying the lightest and simplest kit. There is still a good focus on safety and skill.

Forum rules

Ultralight Bushwalking/backpacking is about more than just gear lists. Ultralight walkers carefully consider gear based on the environment they are entering, the weather forecast, their own skill, other people in the group. Gear and systems are tested and tweaked.
If you are new to this area then welcome - Please remember that although the same ultralight philosophy can be used in all environments that the specific gear and skill required will vary greatly. It is very dangerous to assume that you can just copy someone else's gear list, but you are encouraged to ask questions, learn and start reducing the pack weight and enjoying the freedom that comes.

Common words
Base pack backpacking the mass of the backpack and the gear inside - not including consumables such as food, water and fuel
light backpacking base weight less than 9.1kg
ultralight backpacking base weight less than 4.5kg
super-ultralight backpacking base weight less than 2.3kg
extreme-ultralight backpacking base weight less than 1.4kg
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lightweight hiker fly on a budget?

Thu 27 Oct, 2016 8:40 pm

Any clever recommendations for an inexpensive way to set myself up with a lightweight hiker fly? I can sew so happy to look at homemade options if they will genuinely work out cheaper, second hand(even if it is something requiring repairs) or if someone has come across some sort of budget option that was surprisingly light I would look at that too. It won't be my primary shelter, infact just the opposite, a little bit of luxury as additional shelter for when I am able to justify a little extra weight so only a basic level of water protection is all it need to be. Looking at a minimum size of 3 X 2m and keeping weight under 500g but the lighter the better

Re: lightweight hiker fly on a budget?

Thu 27 Oct, 2016 8:58 pm

Um...tyvek? Seconds silinyon from thruhiker or similar. Fabric from SimonM at tier gear. Lots of options, depending on budget.

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Re: lightweight hiker fly on a budget?

Fri 28 Oct, 2016 9:38 am

Polyethylene painters sheets maybe? They're cheap and available in a variety of thicknesses. I've seen some pretty ghetto tent setups with the stuff. I've used the 1mil (1/1000 inch = ~25 microns) type but it tears pretty easily. The 3mil (75um) sheets are much more durable but weigh three times as much, about 70 grams per square meter. A 3x2m rectangle would be under 500g.

Polycryo (window shrink film) is a lot tougher for the weight. It comes in different grades but is roughly the same weight as 1mil painter's sheets. I use it as a groundsheet when cowboy camping or with my floorless tent. It's a little more expensive than polyethylene.

If you need to join pieces to make a more complicated shape then I'm not sure what you'd use as the tape or adhesive. You probably wouldn't want to sew plastic sheets.

Re: lightweight hiker fly on a budget?

Fri 28 Oct, 2016 7:14 pm

Painters sheets probably a bit flimsy. I don't mind spending a little bit, just can't really justify the $250+ for a super dooper one to get the weight down. Hoping to spend a max of about $80

Re: lightweight hiker fly on a budget?

Fri 28 Oct, 2016 8:42 pm

I have been thinking of making a 'summer fly' for good weather out of window shrink film and clear gorrilla tape. Super light and easy.

Re: lightweight hiker fly on a budget?

Fri 28 Oct, 2016 8:43 pm

I've eyed off the Prospecting tarp by Terra Rosa gear

http://terrarosagear.com/ultralight

3x3 with a choice of fabrics and weights.

If you're set up to sew then should be able to do your own pretty cheaply.

Re: lightweight hiker fly on a budget?

Sat 29 Oct, 2016 8:44 am

AWTtrekker wrote:Painters sheets probably a bit flimsy. I don't mind spending a little bit, just can't really justify the $250+ for a super dooper one to get the weight down. Hoping to spend a max of about $80


I have a fabric that would allow you to make your own 3m x 1.8m tarp for about $65 including postage depending on what you added to it. It is a super wide polyester fabric at 1.89m wide so you would use only the width of the fabric, meaning there is no ridgeline seam. Here is some pics of a tarp I made for myself.

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Re: lightweight hiker fly on a budget?

Sat 29 Oct, 2016 10:51 am

AWTtrekker wrote:Painters sheets probably a bit flimsy. I don't mind spending a little bit, just can't really justify the $250+ for a super dooper one to get the weight down. Hoping to spend a max of about $80

When you said inexpensive and not a primary shelter I immediately thought of the plastic sheet. The 3mil stuff is actually pretty strong.

For $80 I'm pretty sure you could find some waterproof fabric for a 3x2m fly. Looks like Simon's got you covered.

The silnylon available here in the US is a little cheaper than that. But to me $80 (AUS) and silnylon constitutes a not-that-inexpensive primary shelter.

Re: lightweight hiker fly on a budget?

Sat 29 Oct, 2016 11:10 am

I just edited my post - it would be about $65 including postage.

Re: lightweight hiker fly on a budget?

Sat 29 Oct, 2016 11:47 am

simonm wrote:I just edited my post - it would be about $65 including postage.

That's roughly what it would cost me to buy silnylon. A good deal, you should go for it.

But with 3mil sheeting I could make three 3x2m tarps for one fourth the cost.

Re: lightweight hiker fly on a budget?

Sun 30 Oct, 2016 5:41 pm

Hey thanks that sounds pretty good what sort of weight are we talking for that size?

Re: lightweight hiker fly on a budget?

Mon 31 Oct, 2016 8:24 am

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/like/1818091 ... 107&chn=ps

$33 but admittedly awful colour - i.e. you'll look like a survivalist, but around 600g and you have all the tieouts you'll need.

Re: lightweight hiker fly on a budget?

Mon 31 Oct, 2016 10:21 am

AWTtrekker wrote:Hey thanks that sounds pretty good what sort of weight are we talking for that size?


The one I made is 330grams.

Re: lightweight hiker fly on a budget?

Tue 07 Mar, 2017 12:08 pm

Simonm's setup looks like the go but if you want a super cheap option, like under $15, go to Bunnings.
1.8 x 1.1m green tarp. You get 2 for $3.00. 150g/tarp is ultra-light but you'll need a bivy, so that will add to your total. Still a light option when solo.
2.4 x 1.8m blue tarp for $7-8. @ 400g makes it lightweight as a 2 person option or luxury 1 person.
These are 80gsm. Supercheap auto have even lighter tarps @ 70gsm but haven't got around to getting one yet.
Also get some camping cord while your at Bunnings for around $5.00

They're 100% waterproof, you can batten down in wind but there is no stretch so they can flap a bit and slowly pull the pegs but ties help avoid that.

I've got a light-weight 2 man tent so haven't used the blue tarp yet. But the green tarp is great for solo, its just handy to have even if its not going to rain.

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Single green tarp with bivy and 40l pack

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Blue tarp backyard test with dog :)

Re: lightweight hiker fly on a budget?

Fri 10 Mar, 2017 2:37 pm

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Not sure if its a bit more than what your budget is but I'm selling a full kit which will make a 3x3 with all the tie outs, thread etc inc. Purchased of Simon and never got around to using it.
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