Knives, a UL Santoku?

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Knives, a UL Santoku?

Postby Neo » Thu 24 Aug, 2017 7:54 pm

G'day
I have a light do-it-all Gerber pocket knife and carry a small sharpening stone yet am thinking of getting a Santoku style knife for food prep.
A slight luxury, for the full satisfaction of chopping then cooking.
In reality if taking fresh food I would chop before departure.
Can anyone recommend a light/thin/20cm all-round knife? Brand, model, shop name.
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Re: Knives, a UL Santoku?

Postby Moondog55 » Thu 24 Aug, 2017 8:13 pm

Excuse the bias but as a cook I think 200mm is a bit small for an all-round knife, however cheap choppers from a Chinese grocery or eBay would be the best tool in that size range.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Stainless-St ... Jmd5B0foLg
or this little bargain also from evil bait

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Furi-Pro-Asi ... SwN2VZRQ~a
I like Furi knives I like tha balance but they are fragile
Also get a couple of decent small paring/vegetable knives and a decent wide blade boning knife and a TOOLBOX with PADLOCK to keep the safe and sharp in
Make plywood protectors or sheaths for the blades
A small plastic toolbox is an investment in keeping the stuff safe and sharp and is also where you keep the filleting gloves and other small but vital things like Panadol and bandaids/FFDs
Ve are too soon old und too late schmart
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Re: Knives, a UL Santoku?

Postby Neo » Thu 24 Aug, 2017 8:35 pm

I used a Furi once and liked it. With most stuff I lean towards compact.
Only travelling with one knife (just found it after a couple of days) and the pockety.
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Re: Knives, a UL Santoku?

Postby Neo » Thu 24 Aug, 2017 8:41 pm

Tonight it's pan fried chicken tenders and an Indian spice followed with a simple veg, onion, garlic on the fire
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Re: Knives, a UL Santoku?

Postby Moondog55 » Thu 24 Aug, 2017 11:18 pm

My recommendation is too much for a rucksack I agree
Ve are too soon old und too late schmart
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Re: Knives, a UL Santoku?

Postby Gadgetgeek » Fri 25 Aug, 2017 6:11 am

The scanpan santoku isn't bad, still not purely UL, but seems decent, and has a good blade cover. I've been trying to get my hands on one of the MSR alpines, but I've been unwilling to pay the markup, so maybe when I'm in Canada next I'll get one. ,Gerber has a few its done, but they are HEAVY although they do look rather well thought out considering.
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Re: Knives, a UL Santoku?

Postby Neo » Fri 25 Aug, 2017 8:25 am

The price here for the MSR is not bad:
http://www.downunderpilotshop.com.au/ms ... chen-knife
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Re: Knives, a UL Santoku?

Postby CasualNerd » Fri 25 Aug, 2017 9:47 am

Go to the closest Asian shop and find a kiwi knife, there's usually quite a range, they're spring steel and very light. They're under 10 bucks, maybe under 5 in bigger cities. Some people would consider them disposable knives but they sharpen up wonderfully. The blade is so thin they actually cut well even when dull.

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I just checked mine, the most common size santoku and it's 82 grams, 17.5cm blade and 28.5cm overall. The more commonly have wooden handles.

Gadgetgeek wrote:I've been trying to get my hands on one of the MSR alpines
I have a friend with one and I don't think they're much good. They chip really easily. I've carried a victorinox paring knife which would be similar weight and slightly smaller, but much better blade and half the price.
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Re: Knives, a UL Santoku?

Postby Neo » Fri 25 Aug, 2017 10:01 am

Yeah a Kiwi knife. Mum has one in her kitchen, really thin but quite good to use. Cheers.
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Re: Knives, a UL Santoku?

Postby Gadgetgeek » Fri 25 Aug, 2017 5:41 pm

I do like my Vic paring knife, I also like knuckle clearance, can't have it all sometimes. Reminds me, I need to do an addendum to my knife review thread, I got a couple more ultra-lighters to share.
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Re: Knives, a UL Santoku?

Postby rcaffin » Sat 26 Aug, 2017 6:13 pm

Victorinox have some excellent UL offerings.

Cheers
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Re: Knives, a UL Santoku?

Postby Neo » Sat 26 Aug, 2017 6:19 pm

rcaffin wrote:Victorinox have some excellent UL offerings.

Cheers
Roger


G'day Roger

What's your latest adventure or gear making project?
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Re: Knives, a UL Santoku?

Postby Moondog55 » Sat 26 Aug, 2017 9:40 pm

IKEA cheese knives are OK too
Ve are too soon old und too late schmart
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