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A place to chat about gear and the philosphy of ultralight. Ultralight bushwalking or backpacking focuses on carrying the lightest and simplest kit. There is still a good focus on safety and skill.

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Ultralight Bushwalking/backpacking is about more than just gear lists. Ultralight walkers carefully consider gear based on the environment they are entering, the weather forecast, their own skill, other people in the group. Gear and systems are tested and tweaked.
If you are new to this area then welcome - Please remember that although the same ultralight philosophy can be used in all environments that the specific gear and skill required will vary greatly. It is very dangerous to assume that you can just copy someone else's gear list, but you are encouraged to ask questions, learn and start reducing the pack weight and enjoying the freedom that comes.

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Base pack backpacking the mass of the backpack and the gear inside - not including consumables such as food, water and fuel
light backpacking base weight less than 9.1kg
ultralight backpacking base weight less than 4.5kg
super-ultralight backpacking base weight less than 2.3kg
extreme-ultralight backpacking base weight less than 1.4kg
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Neo
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Three for 3 KG

Thu 12 Oct, 2017 6:53 pm

G'day
Stoked with recent additions this winter so thought I'd share. Is for 3 season, new pack and now a synthetic half-bag. Slow leak on my Nemo pad (find later) so picked up an Exped today:

900g Tarptent Protrail w/pegs & pole set
1080g Exped Lightning 45L
235g OMM Mountain Raid 1.0 half bag
415g Exped Summat UL s
300g Uniqlo UL down jacket
80g Sea to Summit pillow regular
=3010g

Edit, thanks NNW
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Re: Three for 3 KG

Thu 12 Oct, 2017 7:19 pm

Tested the OMM at forcast 12°&16° overnight, was perfect spring summer UL setup :)
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Re: Three for 3 KG

Fri 13 Oct, 2017 6:58 am

It's arithmetic, not mathematics, and that adds up to 3010g.
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Re: Three for 3 KG

Thu 09 Nov, 2017 11:50 pm

I like the concept but I don't think it works out warmer for the weight. (A jacket isn't going to trap nearly as much air as a similar weight portion of a quilt / bag.)

For example MLD 48f spirit quilt comes in at 300-425g depending on size, you can also add a poncho hole as an option and ditch the puffy jacket layer completely.

What temp can the OMM handle? Their site was less than helpful
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Re: Three for 3 KG

Fri 10 Nov, 2017 7:24 am

jeremyw wrote:What temp can the OMM handle? Their site was less than helpful


Agree that a bag/quilt would trap air better although the half bag with jacket is a closer body fit. The elastic drawstring works well even though I don't have the matching jacket.

Cost of this combo was just under $300 and the jacket is multi-use... hard to beat the weight&price in Australia.

I think OMM don't give it a rating because it's only a half bag and depends on what else you wear. Maybe compare to their similar full bag?

I pondered it long enough so took the plunge and it's working. Also now have a synthetic option for getting damp etc.

My legs have been fine or too warm, sometimes add a fleece top as well when sleeping (carried anyway) if it dips well under 10°C such as between 2&6am.
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Re: Three for 3 KG

Fri 10 Nov, 2017 8:03 am

It's not about the weight so much as the versatility, you carry and use the down/synthetic parka anyway to wear in camp so why not sleep in it.
That OMM half bag is similar to my own custom half bag from UCMike so I'd guess about 12C/ 14C for comfort
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Re: Three for 3 KG

Fri 10 Nov, 2017 8:11 am

Plus I already have tops/jacket so for $157 I now have a new lighter sleep system :)
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