UL Shorts and Jocks bargain?

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UL Shorts and Jocks bargain?

Postby Lamont » Thu 24 Jan, 2019 9:02 am

If you are UL you will likely be wearing running shorts already, but, if you need some spares or haven't taken the plunge yet,(or should that be lift to a nice 90mm inseam) and want to try some and give the culottes the flick, without too much of a cost check these out--https://www.decathlon.com.au/p/8325701_ekiden-running-shorts-dark-blue.html#/12-200-s
Have ten run/walky bouts of 12 to 15ks each time, sat on granite, ground around didn't try to protect them (no use in scrub but brushed them on light branches -slippery buggers which is good- though by their nature these type of shorts are light) not a mark on them. I think they are ripstop and compared to my Underarmour running shorts (with pockets and five times the cost) they seem tough enough. The jockette is poly 100% no elastane as well and they dry while you look at them or with your legs open while you are sitting and NO chafing so far. Of course you can cut it out which brings me to the next bargain (?)
https://www.decathlon.com.au/p/8337505_ ... #/12-200-s
they are tightish but work well and priced so you can try them. They have others but more expensive. Quality on both products seems excellent.
I found for what it's worth, both are true to size. Only trouble is postage cost.
Keep that nether region cool you ultralighters!
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Re: UL Shorts and Jocks bargain?

Postby wildwanderer » Thu 24 Jan, 2019 5:49 pm

No weight given....

and you call yourself a ultralighter :shakeshead

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Re: UL Shorts and Jocks bargain?

Postby Lamont » Thu 24 Jan, 2019 6:54 pm

Not quite - 'worn weight' :roll:

But lets just say these are so light and cool wearing them in the heat, if your nether region could sing, it would.
I've been getting Tony Bennett circa 1985 lately. :lol: Cool as!
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Re: UL Shorts and Jocks bargain?

Postby ribuck » Thu 24 Jan, 2019 7:46 pm

Lamont wrote:...you don't count 'worn weight'...

Worn weight isn't part of base weight, but it's still worth counting it :)
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Re: UL Shorts and Jocks bargain?

Postby Lamont » Thu 24 Jan, 2019 8:23 pm

ribuck wrote:
Lamont wrote:...you don't count 'worn weight'...

Worn weight isn't part of base weight, but it's still worth counting it :)

Happy to weigh them for you riback if that is your main concern and you are looking to pick a pair up.
Would be choice for NZ.
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Re: UL Shorts and Jocks bargain?

Postby ribuck » Thu 24 Jan, 2019 9:35 pm

Lamont wrote:Happy to weigh them for you ...

No thanks :)

For lightweight bushwalking, tightish briefs beat "tightish boxers" every time.
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Re: UL Shorts and Jocks bargain?

Postby wildwanderer » Fri 25 Jan, 2019 6:12 am

I wish the integrated jocks concept would also be offered in outdoor pants.

I usually wear lightweight pants that convert to shorts. As often during my trips I require leg protection.
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Re: UL Shorts and Jocks bargain?

Postby Lamont » Fri 25 Jan, 2019 7:48 am

Gaiters (take them on and off as needed) and these or similar shorts bingo, bango...
Long pants in most weather and conditions went out with button up shoes :lol:
Try it -you will never go back.
You have my personal guarantee! My hand is resting on the UL bible (well a copy of Whitman's "Leaves of grass" as a non god fearer.)
Only cost you a measly tenner and you probably already have the gaiters! :D
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Re: UL Shorts and Jocks bargain?

Postby slparker » Fri 25 Jan, 2019 9:22 am

Gaiters are heavier than trouser legs and my knees get sunburnt and anyway, gaiters are for scrub-bashing or ophidiophobes.

I will stick with my OR ferrosi dacks - plus those polyester running shorts smell satanically after a day's sweat.
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Re: UL Shorts and Jocks bargain?

Postby Lamont » Fri 25 Jan, 2019 10:20 am

I don't know splarky?
The shorts don't get sweaty, just your undies, same as pants.

If young Nathan Satan is visiting you -'Burning sulfur'. Maybe you need to change your diet! :lol:
I suggest eating more cannelini beans (or less) may help.
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Re: UL Shorts and Jocks bargain?

Postby slparker » Fri 25 Jan, 2019 11:12 am

Lamont wrote:I don't know splarky?
The shorts don't get sweaty, just your undies, same as pants.

If young Nathan Satan is visiting you -'Burning sulfur'. Maybe you need to change your diet! :lol:
I suggest eating more cannelini beans (or less) may help.


Nope. My shorts get sweaty. And my jocks. and my shirt. and my hat.

I usually wear running shorts for, er, running and they smell obnoxiously after becoming sweaty which I suspect is a consequence of my unique skin bacterial flora inhabiting the polyester fibres.

If I could get nylon running shorts i still wouldn't consider them for bushwalking as i prefer shorts that cover most of my thighs (if I am going to wear shorts) as I usually walk in alpine areas above the treeline and I am not as sanguine about sunburn as I was in my youth. Last couple of times i wore shorts it was because I was wearing gaiters because of scrub and they were mountain biking nylon shorts without the inners - knee length and, with the commando option, very light and well ventilated.

wearing gaiters because you are wearing shorts (instead of trousers) for ultralight reasons makes no sense as shorts + gaiters would weigh more than a pair of lightweight walking trousers. Wearing gaiters because it is scrubby and then wearing shorts because the trousers wouldn't be necessary makes sense, of course. So long as you put sunscreen on your knees and upper calves.
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Re: UL Shorts and Jocks bargain?

Postby wildwanderer » Fri 25 Jan, 2019 11:21 am

Lamont wrote:Gaiters (take them on and off as needed) and these or similar shorts bingo, bango...
Long pants in most weather and conditions went out with button up shoes :lol:
Try it -you will never go back.
You have my personal guarantee! My hand is resting on the UL bible (well a copy of Whitman's "Leaves of grass" as a non god fearer.)
Only cost you a measly tenner and you probably already have the gaiters! :D
Can't lose.


:lol: so I thought myself once however the scars tell differently. After a few too many off-track adventures in shorts and gaiters I’ve learned to armor up with long pants/ long shirt (and gaiters). That and my partner was continually unimpressed when Id return home bleeding. Im mainly a 3 season walker (avoiding summer)

My skin does tend to rip easily though.. :? and I know a few peope who go the gaiters and shorts route who manage to mostly avoid looking like they wrestled with a whipper snipper

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After a walk in shorts and gaiters.
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Re: UL Shorts and Jocks bargain?

Postby Lamont » Fri 25 Jan, 2019 2:55 pm

I'll bet those got some nice wee scars ww!
Yes, sunscreen splarky, I wear it all the time, have to don't you, and apply it properly at the appropriate times.
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Re: UL Shorts and Jocks bargain?

Postby Ms_Mudd » Mon 28 Jan, 2019 3:50 pm

I wonder if they work for the laydees too? I don't like ladies running shorts, they sit too low- I don't want to look like a plumber. This happened to my favourite pair of (mens) shorts last week :-/ Two seperate incidents mind you, it was hot, so perhaps it was just unintentional air conditioning alterations?
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Re: UL Shorts and Jocks bargain?

Postby Lamont » Mon 28 Jan, 2019 6:18 pm

These have an 11 cm inseam. They look longer than yours.
Weigh app 95gms in XL with out the inner jocks, about 105gms with.
Bare bones, very airy and light (not see through), no pockets (one little key/cash one) no air venting panels, no stretch.
The pics on the site show exactly how they cover.
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Re: UL Shorts and Jocks bargain?

Postby Ms_Mudd » Mon 28 Jan, 2019 6:54 pm

Thanks! Mine look shorter than they really are, they were slung on a table.
11 inch in seam seems (ha!pardon the pun) like a good length
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Re: UL Shorts and Jocks bargain?

Postby Stew63 » Wed 30 Jan, 2019 6:47 pm

I've fully embraced UL and to save 137gm by only wearing a goretex lap-lap - nothing else.
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