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Postby kanangra » Wed 04 Dec, 2013 1:11 pm

Just booked flights for a weekend trip in March next year. Our intended itinery is to head across the Routeburn track on Day1 camping at the McKellar hut. weather permitting we will go up Key Summit and along the ridge dropping into the hut from above and behind. On Day 2 we will go down the Grrenstone valley to Steele ck then up that that valley to its head then down the other side to the Mid Caples for the night. (hopefully it will be still there?) Then on the third and final day we will go up Kay Ck and over into Scott Ck which we will follow down to the road.

I will probably park the car at Lake Sylvan to shorten the road bash at the end. we can walk from there to the start of the Routeburn the night before we set off. Have been eyeing off this particular trip for years.

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Re: NZ bound in March next year

Postby wayno » Wed 04 Dec, 2013 3:07 pm

why bother with a car when theres shuttle buses servicing the tracks
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Re: NZ bound in March next year

Postby kanangra » Thu 05 Dec, 2013 8:29 am

Mostly it is a timing issue for us. We fly out on the afternoon of our last day and may be cutting things a little fine.

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Re: NZ bound in March next year

Postby wayno » Thu 05 Dec, 2013 9:01 am

buckleys do a 1pm pick up from routeburn shelter. and they dont muck around stopping at glenorchy like track and info do. back at queenstown central by 2 15. they drop you off wherever you want in the town

http://www.buckleytransport.co.nz/
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Re: NZ bound in March next year

Postby kanangra » Fri 06 Dec, 2013 5:58 am

Thanks for the tip.

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Re: NZ bound in March next year

Postby wayno » Fri 06 Dec, 2013 6:18 am

track and info bus does a compulsory half hour stop at the shop at glenorchy, its nothing more than a kick back between the shop and the bus service to try and get people to spend up at the shop with its over inflated prices... the total bus trip isnt that long, its not necessary
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Re: NZ bound in March next year

Postby nq111 » Fri 06 Dec, 2013 7:04 pm

Good tips Wayno.

What do you reckon about taking a jet boat instead of a bus? I figured it might be faster and more fun, but haven't really checked it out yet.

Kanangra, might see you over there, going to do the Five Passes Tramp in early March (not fixed a date yet).
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Re: NZ bound in March next year

Postby wayno » Fri 06 Dec, 2013 7:09 pm

jetboat doesnt take you to the routeburn, only up the dart...
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Re: NZ bound in March next year

Postby kanangra » Mon 03 Mar, 2014 9:02 am

Well March has arrived and less than 2 weeks to go before we head out. I can't wait. We have decided to carry a tent so we are not tied to the huts. I would like to camp the first night high on the Livingstone Range before dropping down to Mc Kellar Hut the next morning. The second night we hope to camp high up in Camp Ck. We'll see how the weather looks?

Anyone know the time of first and last light at Queenstown at the moment?

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Re: NZ bound in March next year

Postby wayno » Mon 03 Mar, 2014 9:59 am

currently snowing in the southern alps, 8cm, snow down to as low as 700m

http://www.metservice.com/mountain/fior ... ional-park

http://encounter.snapithd.com/encounter ... 1255802823
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Re: NZ bound in March next year

Postby DaveNoble » Mon 03 Mar, 2014 10:53 am

kanangra wrote:
Anyone know the time of first and last light at Queenstown at the moment?

K.


Google can tell you - enter "sunrise queenstown New Zealand" etc. Can be very useful for photography for sunrise and sunset.

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Re: NZ bound in March next year

Postby kanangra » Mon 03 Mar, 2014 11:06 am

Thanks guys. I should have known Google would know. Crumbs I wasn't expecting snow down that low. I was hoping to camp at about 1,400m?

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Re: NZ bound in March next year

Postby kanangra » Mon 03 Mar, 2014 11:10 am

I've just noticed I wrote Camp Ck but meant to say Kay Ck. :oops:

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Re: NZ bound in March next year

Postby wayno » Mon 03 Mar, 2014 11:19 am

kanangra wrote:Thanks guys. I should have known Google would know. Crumbs I wasn't expecting snow down that low. I was hoping to camp at about 1,400m?

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looking at the remarkables the snow is actually somewhere between 1000 and 1500, looking at cedric peak looks around the same.. at this time of year the snow melts reasonably fast once the wind dies down or swings back to the north... no such thing as unseasonal snow in the south island. freeing level will shift between 1000m and 4000m this time of year


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Re: NZ bound in March next year

Postby forest » Mon 03 Mar, 2014 12:14 pm

Kanangra, Sounds like a great trip. Plenty of time up high. Have fun and be safe.

You'll not be the only Aussie in the area.....14 sleeps to go, who's counting !!

That's interesting to see a little early snow in Queenstown. I will not mention that to my wife as she'll start shivering now.
I am a GEAR JUNKIE and GRAM COUNTER !!

There, It's out. I said it, Ahh I feel better now :lol:
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Re: NZ bound in March next year

Postby kanangra » Mon 03 Mar, 2014 1:58 pm

Hey Forest as we'll be over there at the same time I'll keep an eye open for you. where are you headed?

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Re: NZ bound in March next year

Postby nq111 » Tue 04 Mar, 2014 7:06 am

Sounds like it will almost be a bushwalk.com convention in Queenstown over next few weeks.

I'll be in those hills in just over a week.

Others be warned, whenever I plan such a trip it snows - regardless of season. Being snow magnets I can almost guarantee it will snow again in about 10 days :lol:
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Re: NZ bound in March next year

Postby wayno » Tue 04 Mar, 2014 8:04 am

ten day forecast has the weather going back to summmer weather
http://www.metservice.com/towns-cities/queenstown
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Re: NZ bound in March next year

Postby wayno » Tue 04 Mar, 2014 10:34 am

remarkable skifield today...
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Re: NZ bound in March next year

Postby nq111 » Tue 04 Mar, 2014 5:30 pm

wayno wrote:ten day forecast has the weather going back to summmer weather
http://www.metservice.com/towns-cities/queenstown


You doubt my skills as a snow and bad weather magnet? :lol: :lol:
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Re: NZ bound in March next year

Postby wayno » Tue 04 Mar, 2014 5:33 pm

nq111 wrote:
wayno wrote:ten day forecast has the weather going back to summmer weather
http://www.metservice.com/towns-cities/queenstown


You doubt my skills as a snow and bad weather magnet? :lol: :lol:


not at all , i'm using it as a benchmark to see how much you can change the weather forecast obewan....
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Re: NZ bound in March next year

Postby nq111 » Tue 04 Mar, 2014 6:04 pm

wayno wrote:
nq111 wrote:
wayno wrote:ten day forecast has the weather going back to summmer weather
http://www.metservice.com/towns-cities/queenstown


You doubt my skills as a snow and bad weather magnet? :lol: :lol:


not at all , i'm using it as a benchmark to see how much you can change the weather forecast obewan....



:lol: I'm up for the challenge.

For example this was the outcome from a forecast for 'clearing' the day after some light snow showers (we were out in the light snow no dramas). It continued like this and worse for two days.

(Video Warning: Some cussing included).

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Re: NZ bound in March next year

Postby wayno » Tue 04 Mar, 2014 6:06 pm

and? thats fine weather in NZ....
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Re: NZ bound in March next year

Postby nq111 » Tue 04 Mar, 2014 6:16 pm

wayno wrote:and? thats fine weather in NZ....


:D of course no one is taking videos when it gets really rough.

But, yeah, I am a bit intimidated by potential NZ weather, even coming from Tassie experience. I hope that fear is healthy.

The event in the video certainly scared us at times (winds were clocked up to 130km/hr at the nearest and less exposed peak with a BOM weather station). That was a bomber geodesic mountain tent too - i would hate to think what would have happened had we been carrying a lighter 3 season tent.
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Re: NZ bound in March next year

Postby wayno » Tue 04 Mar, 2014 6:18 pm

it was 180k at stewart island last week... 120 around south island today
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Re: NZ bound in March next year

Postby wayno » Tue 04 Mar, 2014 6:19 pm

mate of mine kept worrying about his tent in a storm , kept tightening the guy lines during the night, ended up with all the tension, the tent shreded...
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Re: NZ bound in March next year

Postby nq111 » Tue 04 Mar, 2014 6:20 pm

wayno wrote:it was 180k at stewart island last week... 120 around south island today

:shock: Yep - no doubting it, that is rough.
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Re: NZ bound in March next year

Postby nq111 » Tue 04 Mar, 2014 6:22 pm

wayno wrote:mate of mine kept worrying about his tent in a storm , kept tightening the guy lines during the night, ended up with all the tension, the tent shreded...


What sort of tent? I have had a few guylines cut by the flying ice.

Want to hope for lots of snow in those conditions - builds up around the tent and gives some protection and anchorage.
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Re: NZ bound in March next year

Postby wayno » Tue 04 Mar, 2014 6:25 pm

macpac olympus,.. pre the snow flaps...
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Postby nq111 » Tue 04 Mar, 2014 6:32 pm

wayno wrote:macpac olympus,.. pre the snow flaps...


I used to have one. I didn't find it as comfortable in a big wind as a good geodesic but hardly a weak tent either. Shocking to think one shredded.
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