The ORIGINAL Lake Pedder

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Re: The ORIGINAL Lake Pedder

Postby ILUVSWTAS » Fri 13 Aug, 2010 5:08 pm

Hmmm got any C4 Dan???
I agree. It would have been a fantastic place to lay eyes on after several days walking.

Franks dont need a road Oll, Good access already from either end, and very easy walking (for off-track)
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Re: The ORIGINAL Lake Pedder

Postby Taurë-rana » Fri 13 Aug, 2010 10:59 pm

ILUVSWTAS wrote:Good one Dan!

You know there are some out there that feel the "new" Pedder is better than the original????
And some that hate the new lake on principle. I think the new lake is beautiful in its own right, but I agree with Dan about the sadness/eeriness to the feel of it - I think for me it is partly because it is so empty. It's the most beautiful, spectacular place, yet it just isn't appreciated or visited by many and it's so lonely. There is also the sadness about losing the original, I've always regretted being too young to have seen it, although would that have made it worse? I've watched the destruction of other wild places in Tassie. What's worse is that I read that they could have put in a canal through the hills instead of flooding the lake.
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Re: The ORIGINAL Lake Pedder

Postby Mickeymoo » Mon 16 Aug, 2010 9:08 am

ILUVSWTAS wrote:Hmmm got any C4 Dan???


Haha that could certainly result in some specatacular results!! :twisted:
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Re: The ORIGINAL Lake Pedder

Postby bcshort » Fri 27 Aug, 2010 10:07 am

Hi All,
Some of you may remember Short's Service Station, the Ampol on Davey St Hobart. Anyway When my grandfather and uncle were not running that, they (and the family) were keen bushwalkers. I'm recently become one of the family custodians of all the photos :)

I've put together all the Lake Pedder ones I could find. And put them in an album for your enjoyment.

http://gallery.me.com/chageaus#100307&b ... &view=grid

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Re: The ORIGINAL Lake Pedder

Postby tas-man » Fri 27 Aug, 2010 8:25 pm

Thanks Ben for posting that link to your family's photos. I enjoyed the reminders of this special place.
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Re: The ORIGINAL Lake Pedder

Postby stepbystep » Fri 27 Aug, 2010 11:39 pm

Thanks Ben, important images, look after them and thanks for sharing....
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Re: The ORIGINAL Lake Pedder

Postby north-north-west » Sun 29 Aug, 2010 7:40 pm

ollster wrote:
ILUVSWTAS wrote:Good one Dan!

You know there are some out there that feel the "new" Pedder is better than the original????


You know I do. It's beautiful, and functional. I also think we need more dams and more hydro. :


Right, who needs valleys as long as there are mountains to climb?
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Re: The ORIGINAL Lake Pedder

Postby Stibb » Thu 22 Sep, 2011 5:18 pm

Maybe a morbid request but does anyone have any pictures (or links) of when the crime actually took place. There are lots of pictures of before and after but I haven't seen anything from during the construction and flooding. Too heartbreaking to witness or restricted access?
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Re: The ORIGINAL Lake Pedder

Postby ILUVSWTAS » Thu 22 Sep, 2011 5:54 pm

Ian R put some great pics of the construction on here... I have a book called SOUTHWEST TASMANIA, A LAND OF THE WILD. By D.Nielson that has an AMAZING (but very sad) section on just this Stibb! See if you can track it down. If not PM me and I will meet you somewhere so you can borrow if you like :)
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Re: The ORIGINAL Lake Pedder

Postby Stibb » Thu 22 Sep, 2011 7:29 pm

Thanks for the offer :D I might take it up. I'll get back to you on that.

I just found a couple of Ian's construction pics (have you got more?). It's so terribly sad :cry: :evil:
A real treat to read about and see some old pics from you guys who has experienced Pedder in its glory. THANKS

This is all fairly new to me as I didn't really know about any of this until not long ago. I've heard about it but didn't realized the scale and significance. I was too young to have heard anything about it when it actually happen but I remember I've seen some later protests in wet and muddy forests on the news back home in Sweden which was probably about the Franklin dam.
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Re: The ORIGINAL Lake Pedder

Postby Greenie » Thu 22 Sep, 2011 7:46 pm

When I have finished building my time machine, the first place I am going is to Pedder.

Does anyone know where I can find a DeLorean dealership?
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Re: The ORIGINAL Lake Pedder

Postby stepbystep » Thu 22 Sep, 2011 7:49 pm

Greenie wrote:Does anyone know where I can find a DeLorean dealership?


On Pedder's beach :(
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Re: The ORIGINAL Lake Pedder

Postby tasadam » Thu 22 Sep, 2011 8:52 pm

Stibb wrote:Maybe a morbid request but does anyone have any pictures (or links) of when the crime actually took place. There are lots of pictures of before and after but I haven't seen anything from during the construction and flooding. Too heartbreaking to witness or restricted access?

Not seen any, but if that interests you, the Franklin blockade has a fair bit on Youtube, there are some links under the photo in this post.
That wilderness society link is quite compelling reading too.
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Re: The ORIGINAL Lake Pedder

Postby pazzar » Thu 22 Sep, 2011 9:24 pm

Check out the book Tasmanian Wilderness Battles by Greg Buckman. Not only is it a fantastic read, it had a few pictures from Franklin and Pedder in there, plus the maps of what the region would have looked like if the Franklin went ahead.
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Re: The ORIGINAL Lake Pedder

Postby Stibb » Thu 22 Sep, 2011 9:41 pm

Thanks Tasadam & Pazzar, I'm very interested. I've seen some of the clips but its always worth watching again and again :) And I'll check that book too
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Re: The ORIGINAL Lake Pedder

Postby Stibb » Thu 22 Sep, 2011 10:25 pm

I watched the Franklin blockade videos again. Amazing how close it got. Goosebumps!!!
I found this great video too on Peter Dombrovskis first visit to the Gordon Splits
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2E9fM7ni ... re=related

Edit. this should probably have been posted in the Franklin thread. Ah well, doesn't hurt to have it here too
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Re: The ORIGINAL Lake Pedder

Postby north-north-west » Fri 23 Sep, 2011 5:49 pm

tasadam wrote:
Stibb wrote:Maybe a morbid request but does anyone have any pictures (or links) of when the crime actually took place. There are lots of pictures of before and after but I haven't seen anything from during the construction and flooding. Too heartbreaking to witness or restricted access?

Not seen any, but if that interests you, the Franklin blockade has a fair bit on Youtube, there are some links under the photo in this post.
That wilderness society link is quite compelling reading too.


Oh Oh!!! Hope you can't see me in any of those . . .
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Re: The ORIGINAL Lake Pedder

Postby Al and Bruce Paton » Tue 11 Oct, 2011 12:22 pm

Thanks for all these amazing photos.
New Pedder is undoubtedly spectacular but the original was an amazing and unique place. Man trying to "improve" on nature never works out well.
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Re: The ORIGINAL Lake Pedder

Postby mjdalessa » Tue 11 Oct, 2011 6:54 pm

Anyone know if there are any (prefferably detailed) maps of the old pedder and surrounds online? I would also be interested to see one of the destruction the gordon below franklin would have caused. Is the first image on page 1 taken from termianal peak?
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Re: The ORIGINAL Lake Pedder

Postby tas-man » Thu 13 Oct, 2011 10:59 pm

mjdalessa wrote:<snip>. Is the first image on page 1 taken from termianal peak?

It was taken from the high point labeled "748" on the ridge running from the North East of Terminal Peak.
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Re: The ORIGINAL Lake Pedder

Postby ILUVSWTAS » Mon 17 Oct, 2011 7:46 am

tas-man wrote:
mjdalessa wrote:<snip>. Is the first image on page 1 taken from termianal peak?

It was taken from the high point labeled "748" on the ridge running from the North East of Terminal Peak.



NE of Terminal would make it a part of the now Mt Solitary??
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Re: The ORIGINAL Lake Pedder

Postby tas-man » Mon 17 Oct, 2011 4:00 pm

Not that far to the NE. Here's part of the 1:25,000 topo map with the photo location marked.

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Re: The ORIGINAL Lake Pedder

Postby tas-man » Mon 17 Oct, 2011 4:31 pm

Looking for a map showing the location of the original Lake Pedder, I came across these articles that are worth having as referenced in this thread -
http://www.gabimocatta.com/features/doc ... Pedder.pdf
http://eprints.utas.edu.au/10096/1/lake-pedder.pdf
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Re: The ORIGINAL Lake Pedder

Postby tas-man » Tue 18 Oct, 2011 9:19 am

Here is a composite map I put together that shows the original lake outline relative to the new lake shoreline and surrounding features.

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Re: The ORIGINAL Lake Pedder

Postby Stibb » Tue 18 Oct, 2011 11:02 am

Thanks tas-man, interesting paper. I found some more papers from the same symposium at lakepedder.org (note; they are not peer reviewed publications)

http://www.lakepedder.org/resources/rep ... m1995.html

Here's some more interesting reading
http://www.aph.gov.au/house/committee/environ/peddinq/peddrpt/contents.htm
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Re: The ORIGINAL Lake Pedder

Postby NickD » Tue 25 Oct, 2011 11:58 pm

The new Lake Pedder may not be horrible but Lake Gordon looks awful.

I think we ruined the possibility to have truly one of the planets wildest corners that could rival just about anywhere.
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Re: The ORIGINAL Lake Pedder

Postby mjdalessa » Wed 26 Oct, 2011 6:51 pm

The south west book has some interesting info: most interesting of all some Franklin Dam damage maps that show the Prince of Wales could have almost been accessed by boat :lol:
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Re: The ORIGINAL Lake Pedder

Postby NickD » Sun 30 Oct, 2011 9:55 pm

Peak baggers curse at the chance gone begging for easy points :P
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Re: The ORIGINAL Lake Pedder

Postby tas-man » Thu 15 Dec, 2011 11:50 pm

As it is 40 years since I walked into Lake Pedder on December 15-17th 1971, I thought I would mark the occasion by scanning and sharing the rest of the Agfa CT18 slides I took over three days at Lake Pedder. I have just finished reading "Pedder Dreaming" and was interested to find out that Olegas Truchanas and his family walked in to Lake Pedder only a few days later to spend Christmas together there before Olegas drowned on Jan 6th 1972.
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My original 1:100,000 Lake Pedder map I carried in to Lake Pedder.

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The Needles from the then newly constructed Gordon River Road.

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Arrival at Scotts Peak dam site.

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We set out from Scotts Peak dam across the button grass with Mt Solitary on the right.

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The Frankland Range comes in and out of view.
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Re: The ORIGINAL Lake Pedder

Postby tas-man » Thu 15 Dec, 2011 11:55 pm

Lake Pedder 1971_0004.jpg
First photo of Lake Pedder.

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Camp was set up just north of Maria Creek behind the dunes. We had the campsite to ourselves for two nights.

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