Nuts wrote:What about the valves, I read that these may not handle too many refills, how do you know until they leak
As for valves, I'm not too worried about them. I have never heard of a catastrophic failure
due to pressure in a valve. I have seen valves stick, although that is a) rare and b) in canisters that had not been refilled. Lindal valves, the type of valves used in bushwalking type gas canisters, are used in thousands of applications. Spray paint, hair spray, and thousands of other consumer products, all have Lindal valves. They're extremely reliable. Will they wear forever? No. I limit myself to 12 refills per canister.
Think also about this: A 450g canister has a Lindal valve. A 113g canister has a Lindal valve. Generally, a Lindal valve in a 450g canister will get about four times the use of a 113g canister. Filling a 113g canister four times is asking essentially nothing unusual of the valve.
Now consider the Jones family. They like taking their gas Trangia 25 to the beach for the weekend. They like to cook, including meals that need extended periods of low heat. They probably hook up and keep the valve open for long periods of time as they cook. Contrast that to Clive, a solo walker. He just boils a bit of water to prepare his dehy and cuppa. He hooks up and unhooks his stove frequently and uses the stove only in short bursts. Clive unfortunately is an office worker and has children. He can't get away as often as he'd like. In fact, his 227g canister is left over from a trip he took last year, but he's using it this year because it still has enough gas to get a good trip out of it.
So, what's the point? A Lindal valve has to handle everything from heavy continuous use to short but more numerous uses as well as handling sitting on shelves for long periods of time. In other words, this has to be
a very robust valve, one that has to take all comers. If it can handle all that, it can handle a few refills.
Now, another thought: Take a look at one of those little clear plastic lighters. That clear liquid in there? It's butane, the same stuff in a bushwalking canister.
If that little flimsy bit of plastic can handle the pressures associated with liquid butane, I'm more than confident that a
steel canister will be just fine.
No disrespect intended to anyone not interested in refilling, but I've yet to hear of anything that's uncharacteristically dangerous about refilling with butane. With propane? Yes. You'd best be very careful with propane. But refilling blended fuel canisters with straight butane? No. If you're at all intelligent in terms of how you go about it, it can be quite safe.
HJ