icefest wrote:I wouldn't say either of them are snow tents...
Cuben is only worth it if you want the lighter weight.
Theoretically, the duo should have less condensation.
bluetotto wrote:Thank you very much all. I've taken both off my list now
Been using swag for car camping and Kathmandu 3 season for hikes and would like to upgrade and try winter walks up mt kosciuszko.
Would Mountain Laurel Design MidDuo + Bivy (OR Alpine?) work above the snow line or should I really commit to a 4 season tent considering that it'll be my first snow camping? I like idea of adding MLD innernet or Zpacks bug shelter for warmer months and finally getting rid of my cheap 3 season tent.
Recently tried DD tarp + S2S mosquito net and fall in love with minimalist set up. All other suggestions and recommendations are much appreciated.
Scottyk wrote:bluetotto wrote:Thank you very much all. I've taken both off my list now
Been using swag for car camping and Kathmandu 3 season for hikes and would like to upgrade and try winter walks up mt kosciuszko.
Would Mountain Laurel Design MidDuo + Bivy (OR Alpine?) work above the snow line or should I really commit to a 4 season tent considering that it'll be my first snow camping? I like idea of adding MLD innernet or Zpacks bug shelter for warmer months and finally getting rid of my cheap 3 season tent.
Recently tried DD tarp + S2S mosquito net and fall in love with minimalist set up. All other suggestions and recommendations are much appreciated.
The conventional thinking on tents that can handle snow tend to be steep sided, not much flat area on top and usually have the fly extend all they way to the ground. Think Hilleberg Suolo or Macpac Olympus.
A pyramid type design would be ok in light snow fall but if a real dump came down with a good dose of wind I wouldn't choose one. I can see the snow would start to pile up on the flatter lower sections of the walls until the inner of the tent would be getting rather small.
Scottyk wrote:A few differences between a MLD pyramid and a OP polar pyramid.
One has a central walking pole in the middle, the other has 48mm frame running down each corner
One is made of very light silnylon, the other is made of 8 oz canvas
The poles on each corner of the pyramid give the OP tent incredible strength, a single walking pole pyramid has none of the inherit strength this designs gives.
The fact that it has the same basic shape is about all they have in common.
The original poster was asking about super light pyramid tents and that is what I as referring to.
I don't think anyone can imply that because you can buy a polar tent that is a pyramid shape that a pyramid from MLD, z packs for similar is suitable for snow camping.
based on beean's post but could you please let me know how much you want for your set up before I pull the trigger?beean wrote:I've got a BearPawwd PyraTent, the silnylon version. I got the bug netting as well, so it works well for both summer and snowy camping.
Ellobuddha wrote:I have a Hilleberg Jannu that is bombproof for alpine conditions. Its very comforting laying up in something so strong.
I also have a MLD Duomid which I have just replaced with a HMG ultamid. I love the mids and would be more than happy in the snow. I would revert back to the hilleberg if Ithought it was going to be ballistic though.
Here is my Ultamid in a couple of different setups to give you ideas. They are very versatile for summer or winter use. The ability to change from groundsheet/bivy/inner or combos is excellent. Not to mention the Ultamis 2 is 500grams on its own. The weight saving is unreal.
The MLD duomid is excellent as well though not as much room as the Ultamid which is huge. Will be posting the duomid for sale shortly.
I think for versatility the mids are great and will withstand plenty. I havent camped in full snow in mine yet but the duomid has withstood some filty alpine weather with ease. If going to go backcountry for extended period or long distance I would probably revert back to the Hilleberg
Hope this is some use
Giddy_up wrote:Why would you think that they are not suitable. People all over the world use them in snow every day with great success. Me included!!!!!!!!!
Moondog55 wrote:I have been advised that a single larger diameter vertical pole is stronger than a large"A" if the A poles are on the slender size
Eljimberino wrote:Got any photos of your tarp/net combo bluetotto?
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