Neo wrote:My Synmat UL has been great.
Second use I unknowingly placed it on a dry bracken stump and sat on it
Patched in the morning with the included kit an six moths later it's still good.
Now I always use a short dense ccf mat under the torso area which is also where I enter and pivot. Just to be sure! Have two Exped backpacks and will probably collect a tent and sleeping bag in time.
RonK wrote:You must have been hiding under a rock or something - Synmat baffle failures have been the subject of much widespread discussion. I have had two failures, and everyone of my circle of acquaintances who bough a Synmat has had at least one failure. And the most annoying thing is that they have know for a long time there was a problem and should have recalled the product, but instead they just replaced them with the same faulty mats.
I will never give Exped another opportunity to sell me another defective product.
RonK wrote:I will never give Exped another opportunity to sell me another defective product.
GPSGuided wrote:Synmat's design is comfy, lightweight but the baffle weld is not strong enough if placed under significant pressure. In use, it's wise to not over-inflate or even very slightly under-inflate it so that when subjected to quick foot/knee/bum point pressure, it's not going to 'pop' along the weld line. I inflate it sufficiently so that I am fully floating when lying on my side but flattens when kneed or stepped on at point. I am also careful not to play jump castle on it. Gentle and sensible use over a few years have given us many nice sleeps, have not had a failure of two within the household. Treat it as a helium balloon, not a gym ball.
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Neo wrote:It's understandable but silly in my opinion to barr a whole brand because of one product line.
GPSGuided wrote:Neo wrote:It's understandable but silly in my opinion to barr a whole brand because of one product line.
I concur. Our Synmat (UL version) is the only product in Exped’s line we treat with some care. We chose it for comfort and weight, so accepted its limitations. A bit like those who buy Ferrari and avoid driving on corrugated dirt roads, here we needed more attention on the inflation and pressures exerted. Of course, it’s not ideal. But until there’s an alternate that can provide a similar or better level of comfort with weight to match, this is what we live with. No need to kill a whole company for a product that does not match one’s usage style. Not as if other sleeping mats from other brands don’t have popping or leakage problems. Inflatable mats when used beyond. The key is whether the spec point is one that suits you.
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jdeks wrote:Where's the guy who normally shows up in these discussions saying "I've used a $5 CCF foam mat for 65 years and it's never deflated on me!"
Chuckling smugly sitting on their mat, I spose...
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