Kaitum 3 GT

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Kaitum 3 GT

Postby bigwallclimber » Thu 17 May, 2018 9:14 am

Hi there Everyone,

I am looking for a new 4 season tent as my old Macpac 4 season is nearing its EOL.

I have been looking at numerous tents in particular weight, ease of setup and disassembly. The best I have found so far is the Kaitum 3 GT, weighs packed in original at 4.1kg which is lighter than the Macpac.

When it is at its minimum weight of 3.4kg, weight is obviously one factor but what I am looking for is personal experience with this tent or similar in the Hilleberg line. The environment that I will use this is obviously above the snow line (for 2 people), high winds and maybe casual weekend use.

What thoughts or experience do people have ?

http://us.hilleberg.com/EN/tent/red-lab ... itum-3-gt/

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Re: Kaitum 3 GT

Postby Moondog55 » Thu 17 May, 2018 9:18 am

Which particular Macpac needs replacing?
Sim1oz owns and uses that tent and it is superb IMO
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Re: Kaitum 3 GT

Postby bigwallclimber » Thu 17 May, 2018 9:22 am

Moondog55 wrote:Which particular Macpac needs replacing?
Sim1oz owns and uses that tent and it is superb IMO


Hi There mate,

I currently have the Macpac Plateau, had it about 8 years and used up probably in total 700 - 800 nights use so am looking for something just as durable.

Thanks for the feedback on the tent.
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Re: Kaitum 3 GT

Postby Moondog55 » Thu 17 May, 2018 9:40 am

AH I have the FairyDown Plateau myself and in a similar situation, the Kaitum isn't as strong as the FD Plateau but the Macpac version is not as strong as the FD production due to the FD having full sleeves for the poles not clips. Large strong winter tents are a hard decision
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Re: Kaitum 3 GT

Postby bigwallclimber » Thu 17 May, 2018 9:53 am

Moondog55 wrote:AH I have the FairyDown Plateau myself and in a similar situation, the Kaitum isn't as strong as the FD Plateau but the Macpac version is not as strong as the FD production due to the FD having full sleeves for the poles not clips. Large strong winter tents are a hard decision


It is a hard decision, yes the full sleeves for the two main poles on the plateau are awesome and the clips can wear the fly in string winds (repaired twice lol).

What are you looking at to replace with Moondog ?

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Re: Kaitum 3 GT

Postby Moondog55 » Thu 17 May, 2018 9:59 am

I really cannot make the decision
Looking at a Hellesport
https://www.tomsoutdoors.com.au/collect ... eason-tent
Also looking at the Hilleberg Kaitum and Saitaris
http://us.hilleberg.com/EN/tent/black-l ... /saitaris/
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Re: Kaitum 3 GT

Postby bigwallclimber » Thu 17 May, 2018 10:07 am

Moondog55 wrote:I really cannot make the decision
Looking at a Hellesport
https://www.tomsoutdoors.com.au/collect ... eason-tent
Also looking at the Hilleberg Kaitum and Saitaris
http://us.hilleberg.com/EN/tent/black-l ... /saitaris/


I like the look of the hellesport that is for sure, it is such a hard decision lol that is why I was looking for feedback thought it would make it easier to decide.
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Re: Kaitum 3 GT

Postby Moondog55 » Thu 17 May, 2018 10:25 am

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Re: Kaitum 3 GT

Postby johnrs » Thu 17 May, 2018 10:26 am

Heh Moondog
Here are some ideas
http://www.luxeoutdoor.com/eng/catalog- ... fpath=/173
or this in the heavy nylon version from #FUL Gear on Aliexpress
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3f-ul-g ... 84852272-0
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Re: Kaitum 3 GT

Postby markg » Thu 17 May, 2018 2:11 pm

I don't have any experience with the Macpacs, but have a Hilleberg Saivo and have just ordered myself a Nammatj 3 GT. I have had the Saivo in some horrendous winds and it's rock solid. Thats it. Have spent some time in my mates Nammatj and it's equally good, and simple to put up. Only reason we are getting the Nammtj is the huge amount of room you get with the GT models in the vestibule which will make cooking in really bad weather a cinch, something that is tricky with the sloping walls of the Saivo. I have seen the Hellsport on line and they look impressive. I think weight is a factor with any of the better true 4 season tents, but I am prepared to deal with it because of the confidence these tents give you in crap conditions. Integral pitch is a godsend when you have to put them up in windy weather.
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Re: Kaitum 3 GT

Postby Moondog55 » Fri 18 May, 2018 9:26 am

Chris from Toms just offered me a good deal on the Extreme so I am now the owner of a Red and Yellow Fjellheimen Extreme
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Re: Kaitum 3 GT

Postby markg » Fri 18 May, 2018 10:02 am

Nice. The Saitaris would be a palace.
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Re: Kaitum 3 GT

Postby andrewa » Fri 18 May, 2018 5:50 pm

I have the H'berg Nallo GT in 2 and 3. The 2 is a bit too cozy for 2 adults, but the 3 is perfect. Use if for ski touring on Bogong. No probs in 90kph winds, or with the 80cm of snow we had dumped on us last year, although, with the big snowfall, it got a bit smaller inside! Plenty of room for sitting , and great to have the extended vestibule. The Kaitum has a higher tail end, I think, but I wouldn't find this that useful, unless you were wanting to sit down the tail end of the tent, and I can't see any particular reason for needing to do so, unless you bought the 2 person version.

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Re: Kaitum 3 GT

Postby Moondog55 » Fri 18 May, 2018 5:54 pm

Isn't the real advantage of the Kaitum the second entrance at the low end ?
I am looking forward to testing out the utility of the extended vestibule this winter
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Re: Kaitum 3 GT

Postby icefest » Fri 18 May, 2018 7:34 pm

I have a kaitum

I like it

Easy to use and big.

I've ordered the GT version of the fly for longer trips and will swap the too as needed.
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Re: Kaitum 3 GT

Postby andrewa » Sat 19 May, 2018 8:34 am

Didn't realise the Kaitum had an entrance at the tail end. Would improve ventilation a lot.

Ted, enjoy your Fjell.....extreme - does it really have a circular door in the inner, as photos suggest?

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Re: Kaitum 3 GT

Postby cjhfield » Sun 20 May, 2018 9:43 pm

I have the Kaitum 2 but not the GT. It is a bulletproof tent. Coped with Was SW gales. Sadly we no longer snow camp but it would cope with anywhere I have ever camped on the main range. It has 2 large vestibules. It has great airflow. In many ways it is the ultimate tent for bad weather. I can't envisage a trip that needed the GT extension. In the states they hike with their husky dog or similar but our national parks are a bit more restrictive. We mainly use it for extended kayaking trips or if we expect long periods in the tent. We have an Anjan 3 as well which is good for long bushwalking trips and lighter but its not like the Kaitum. I had a problem with the floor of the inner and Hilleberg couriered me a replacement in a few days - fantastic after sales service.

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Re: Kaitum 3 GT

Postby bigwallclimber » Mon 21 May, 2018 8:47 am

hi All,

Thanks for everyone's input, I was out of range over the weekend and was not reading as I had no signal.

Your feedback aided in the decision making process, I am now the proud owner of a Kaitum 3 GT (Ordered this morning). I ended up buying it from Wildearth, once I looked elsewhere (NZ, USA and UK) the price was actually lower than buying it offshore.

Once again thank you all for your input, I look forward to testing it out now Winter is here.

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Re: Kaitum 3 GT

Postby Moondog55 » Mon 21 May, 2018 11:16 am

Maybe you should drop into Pretty Valley at some stage in August so we can all compare our new tents?
A new winter tent is probably the hardest big ticket item to decide on
I hope you got a red one, Red tents are so much faster
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Re: Kaitum 3 GT

Postby bigwallclimber » Mon 21 May, 2018 11:36 am

Moondog55 wrote:Maybe you should drop into Pretty Valley at some stage in August so we can all compare our new tents?
A new winter tent is probably the hardest big ticket item to decide on
I hope you got a red one, Red tents are so much faster


Hey There Moondog,

Yes I got the Red one :-) My Mercedes is red so had to get something in red and just as fast lol.

Yes winter tents are the hardest and biggest ticket items (next comes trekking poles) to decide on and to purchase.

A winter meet up to test out the strength and durabability of winter tents would be fun.

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Re: Kaitum 3 GT

Postby bigwallclimber » Fri 25 May, 2018 7:49 am

Hey There Everyone,

Well I received my new Kaitum 3 GT yesterday and did a setup with it, I have to tell you this thing is HUGE. I cannot believe the size of the Vestibule and how easy it is to setup.

Just a note, if you buy one it comes with a pole repair kit. Dont do what I did and buy a separate one but having said that you never know when you may need it.

Taking it out for a test run on the weekend and will get some photos.

Thanks all for the advice and info.

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