Moondog55 wrote:You are correct in your surmise that you will need mattresses, a sleeping system is only as warm as the mats you use and often are more important than the sleeping bag or quilt is concerned, luckily there is a great selection of mats that combine warmth and comfort and most are not too heavy.
commando wrote:With identical fill and by inherent design a bag is warmer than a quilt, the same as a pair of shoes is warmer than pair of thongs. (Airflow)
If you are just getting into it and are mature age which means its not a life long internally motivated outdoor driven activity then there is a
good chance you would even be wasting money on anything that's really high quality, quilt or bag and you should contemplate a Dupont Dacron
Hollofil / Fiberfill bag at a reasonable price.
Tortoise wrote:commando wrote: ... Do you have packs yet?
MudAnt wrote:Tortoise wrote:commando wrote: ... Do you have packs yet?
Not yet. One of the guys in one of the shops told me to get the gear I want/need then look at packs at the end. The idea being to get a pack that suits the gear I get. It sort of made sense when he told me.
stry wrote:I have both and use both.
If you want to feel as if you are under the doona at home, you will have either a very big and heavy quilt or a very drafty quilt.
If you use the quilt in the manner described by Tortoise, it can be as warm as a hoodless bag and also a little lighter, BUT it will also be a little more restrictive than you may think you want. No free lunches.
...... SNIP....
I have no issues with freedom of movement and quite like feeling snug but I am, or have become, a rather tidy sleeper (side sleeper) and have never been a thrasher. I doubt that a thrasher could get a warm nights sleep in anything. Thrashers will also have difficulty staying on their mat, which means more encounters with cold surfaces.
Again no free lunches. If you want to maximize freedom, something (or things) will be sacrificed.
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