Giardia Gastro reported

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Giardia Gastro reported

Postby dazintaz » Wed 02 May, 2018 9:49 pm

Just reporting 7 of our walking group who completed the OT last week have all fallen ill this week from drinking water from tanks. Please exercise caution and boil water before drinking if you intend walking over the coming weeks or until any significant rainfall.
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Re: Giardia Gastro reported

Postby ILUVSWTAS » Wed 02 May, 2018 10:02 pm

Have they been tested and diagnosed as having giardia or is it just gastro? Giardia is different from gastro and would be a far more serious issue.
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Re: Giardia Gastro reported

Postby dazintaz » Wed 02 May, 2018 10:11 pm

ILUVSWTAS wrote:Have they been tested and diagnosed as having giardia or is it just gastro? Giardia is different from gastro and would be a far more serious issue.


Its no coincidence, we are now in 3 different states VIC NSW and TAS and its 7 days after completing the walk and all experiencing the symptoms of a Giardia infection. Lots of people on the track, lack of rain (1 empty tank at Bert Nichol hut) we didn't boil water before drinking. 2 of us have been to the doc today. Not good.
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Re: Giardia Gastro reported

Postby ILUVSWTAS » Wed 02 May, 2018 10:28 pm

Doesn't sound good at all and no it isn't nice.
But Gastro can be contagious, and Giardia is a far more serious health issue than normal gastro. Get your doctor to take a stool sample done to be sure. Giardia can stay in your system for months and months where gastro will clear within a week.
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Re: Giardia Gastro reported

Postby South_Aussie_Hiker » Thu 03 May, 2018 8:12 am

On receipt of a positive Giardia stool sample test, I would highly recommend contacting Parks Tasmania.

They’d like to know so they can provide info to departing walkers, and treat the water tanks chemically.
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Re: Giardia Gastro reported

Postby north-north-west » Thu 03 May, 2018 9:41 am

Can we be sure the culprit is the tank water and not the usual contamination from handling taps, toilet doors and the like?
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Re: Giardia Gastro reported

Postby South_Aussie_Hiker » Thu 03 May, 2018 10:11 am

Surely you wouldn’t find a group of seven people where they ALL don’t wash their hands before eating?
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Re: Giardia Gastro reported

Postby north-north-west » Thu 03 May, 2018 10:18 am

Dunno.

But the problem (Giardia or gastro) and the source (tanks/other water source/hygiene/food) need to be confirmed before trying to decontaminate the tanks.
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Re: Giardia Gastro reported

Postby Nuts » Thu 03 May, 2018 10:32 am

Wow, late April and dry tanks.. thirsty bunch

Adult gastro has fast onset/ short incubation, catch from another then from each other even. If the symptoms have now been lingering longer- definitely- get to a doc.
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Re: Giardia Gastro reported

Postby South_Aussie_Hiker » Thu 03 May, 2018 10:59 am

Agreed. That’s why I said this:

On receipt of a positive Giardia stool sample test


Parks may even be able to shed some light on it if others who were on the track have also been diligent enough to report it to them.

I don’t normally treat tank water, but the one time I did was an exceptionally dry and hot spell on the OLT where the levels were getting low - and the water that was remaining was noticeably warmer.

Hope you improve soon Daz!
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Re: Giardia Gastro reported

Postby Azza » Sat 05 May, 2018 10:21 am

Correlation does not equal causation.

Giardia is found on surfaces or in soil, food, or water that has been contaminated with feces from infected humans or animals.

It could be the water tanks, or it could just be the general state of the huts and facilities.

I've observed some pretty messy situations on the track and have no doubt how easy it is for a sick person rushing back and forth to the toilet to unintentionally contaminate everything.
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Re: Giardia Gastro reported

Postby Graham17 » Thu 17 May, 2018 7:36 pm

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Re: Giardia Gastro reported

Postby doogs » Fri 18 May, 2018 5:10 am

A friend was diagnosed with Giardia after a trip to the Southern Ranges a couple of years ago. He most likely picked it up from the long drop toilet at the Cockle Creek ranger station when partaking in a pre-trip poop.
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