Aussies blocked from Amazon.com from July 1st!

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Re: Aussies blocked from Amazon.com from July 1st!

Postby CasualNerd » Sun 01 Jul, 2018 4:56 pm

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Re: Aussies blocked from Amazon.com from July 1st!

Postby ChrisJHC » Mon 02 Jul, 2018 9:29 am

I use a US-based shipping service that aggregates my purchases and gives me cheaper shipping than each item shipping directly.

They sent me a message on 1 Jul that they will now be collecting the 10% before sending the goods on.
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Re: Aussies blocked from Amazon.com from July 1st!

Postby GPSGuided » Thu 05 Jul, 2018 10:14 pm

Ok, it's a week on from the start of this new process. Has anyone found out how they are handling it for items that were not pre-charged with GST?
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Re: Aussies blocked from Amazon.com from July 1st!

Postby michael_p » Fri 06 Jul, 2018 12:30 am

I purchased some items from Hong Kong on Ebay today. The GST has been added to the price after purchase. The advertised price was $33.46 and I was billed this plus an extra $3.35 for the GST. The extra $3.35 was listed as a related payment.
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Re: Aussies blocked from Amazon.com from July 1st!

Postby slparker » Fri 06 Jul, 2018 8:17 am

I am not blocked from Amazon and I am not rerouted to the Australian site.
Items will not be shipped here so you need to use a shipping service.
Unless the shipping service extracts the GST it looks as if this is a workaround.
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Re: Aussies blocked from Amazon.com from July 1st!

Postby CasualNerd » Fri 06 Jul, 2018 9:23 am

GPSGuided wrote:Ok, it's a week on from the start of this new process. Has anyone found out how they are handling it for items that were not pre-charged with GST?

Aliexpress adds the 10% at the checkout, so it's a surprise if you're shopping based on listed prices.

I did notice one (identical) item was cheaper on ebay.com.au so possibly smaller sellers are listing there without GST ?
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Re: Aussies blocked from Amazon.com from July 1st!

Postby GPSGuided » Fri 06 Jul, 2018 11:47 am

Yes, the major sites have adjusted apart from Amazon, their US site has just blocked sale to Australia. I’ll have to send them to my relatives for pickup later. Otherwise still curious of the minor sites and sellers and how our customs would deal with it. What happens if the item was posted by an individual? In the old days, the ‘gift’ label used to get processed leniently.
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Re: Aussies blocked from Amazon.com from July 1st!

Postby bigwallclimber » Thu 12 Jul, 2018 2:48 pm

I just bought a small item at a site in the UK, nothing added on checkout so I will see what happens when it comes to me. It cost all of $40. Lets see if the parcel gets held up and I get charged GST prior to letting it be released.

To be honest when you buy an item worth $40 the labour involved in sorting, storing, processing and then requesting payment has to be more than the GST lol.
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Re: Aussies blocked from Amazon.com from July 1st!

Postby GPSGuided » Thu 12 Jul, 2018 4:09 pm

bigwallclimber wrote:To be honest when you buy an item worth $40 the labour involved in sorting, storing, processing and then requesting payment has to be more than the GST lol.


Hence that was partly the reason why there was a $1000 threshold for import duty/GST collection in the past, totally practical. The fear now is that ATO/Customs would impose an administrative fee on all items requiring such payment, potentially adding a completely unreasonable layer of cost on small items eg. $3-4 item from Aliexpress. Early report/s suggests that low cost items from small sellers (no GST collected) are still being waved through but that may change. At the end of the day, maybe the whole arrangement was just to obstruct the big mail order houses (eg. Amazon, international eBay) and protect our domestic retailers.
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Re: Aussies blocked from Amazon.com from July 1st!

Postby Moondog55 » Sat 14 Jul, 2018 9:23 am

We have just bought a tent from REI. Free shipping from USA to Australia via DHL and nothing noted on the invoice about customs charges/GST. Delivery due on Tuesday so I'll let everybody know if there are any hiccups.
REI are refusing to do the Australian governments job for it. Now over on eBay I bought a snowshoe binding, it is coming via the eBay global shipping program and that "service" added the GST plus a 100% service charge to cover the costs of doing so
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Re: Aussies blocked from Amazon.com from July 1st!

Postby wildwanderer » Sat 14 Jul, 2018 10:39 am

Moondog55 wrote:REI are refusing to do the Australian governments job for it. Now over on eBay I bought a snowshoe binding, it is coming via the eBay global shipping program and that "service" added the GST plus a 100% service charge to cover the costs of doing so


So now a total 20% price increase :shock:

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Re: Aussies blocked from Amazon.com from July 1st!

Postby jdeks » Sat 14 Jul, 2018 1:14 pm

I've just bought in a bunch of bike parts from a medium-sized online shop in the UK. Under $1k. Arrived this week.

No VAT, no GST at checkout, and nothing from customs. Shipped by DHL, not that I know whether this has any impact. I doubt it. The plan is clearly to outsource the collection to the logistics departments of the online goliaths, there is NO way customs can inspect every single parcel on the way in to verify GST was charged at checkout.

So basically, this is just going to push people off the big ones like eBay (of which most major sellers have their own sites anyway) who are playing ball due to their high profile, and give all the small timers a bit of an advantage. Good - eBay hasn't been good value any more for years now.

Won't help Australian brick-and-mortar shops one iota. My bike bits are still about 50% RRP even with the shipping on top.
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